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Posted By: granny Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 10:48am
There seems to be plenty of recruitment for a career as a ' Bailiff' at the moment. From £13,000 salary ,if you have the correct approach toward people, who will be struggling as much as you obviously will be!

https://nationalcareersservice.direct.gov.uk/advice/planning/jobprofiles/Pages/bailiff.aspx

Does anybody know , how much are they able to charge for a visit and where does that fee go to? It seems that if someone can't pay, they will clobber them even more with extortionate fees. (A bit like Pay Day Loans)

I have only had one encounter with a bailiff, for a parking fee of one of my family, years ago and he had not long passed his test. He parked in a car park overnight because he'd had a couple of drinks.Seems fair enough to me! He wasn't up early enough the next morning to get back in time. Issued with a parking fine, which was paid. The same fine was issued twice by some nanahead. So the bailiffs eventually appeared. There's no stopping them once they have you in their grasp. Managed to get a letter of apology from the dept. originally responsible for the error, which was shoved in the bailiff's face when he next arrived.

A few cases that I have heard of, these visits are due to an error originally made by the authorities. Why don't they get the fine for incompetence?

I see them as people without empathy or even the ability to see anyone else as a person and imagine the job description would require someone who has maybe suffered humiliation, torment, bullying and would wish to take revenge.

You wouldn't do the job for £13,000 .........would you?????

Anyone had any experiences?
Posted By: julie253 Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 11:54am
At the end of the day if a bill has not been paid then it has to be collected and if the payee has not replied to communications or spoken to anybody about financial hardship or queries then there is little option left.
People are given enough chances to pay before fees are added so surely if there is a query then this is to time to do it?
If somebody owed my company money and hadn't responded to correspondence then I would be employing a company to recover the debt.
Humiliation, torment, bullying, revenge - bit far fetched I think!
Posted By: Salmon Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 12:47pm
I used to live next door to a bailiff and he was a big blusterer.He used to come home from shops which he had closed down and often had some of the proceeds with him which he openly offered to me and our neighbours.He was most upset with me when I told him I wanted no part in another's misfortune(however it was caused). Other neighbours were delighted to get cheap trainers and booze.I am pretty sure he did not pay that money into the correct pot but kept it himself.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 7th Mar 2013 3:06pm
Originally Posted by julie253

Humiliation, torment, bullying, revenge - bit far fetched I think!


Incorrect!

My uncle was a bailiff and has told me exactly what goes on and how they get cash out of folk.

Put it this way, people are gullible and will believe anything, only bailiffs to the courts can enter your property and take goods.

"Look, all the nieghbours are watching, quick let me in" Theres humiliation.

Torment is constant phone calls day and night.

Bullying is exactly right, especially to the less vulnerable of society ie: women with children.

Revenge is correct, fools that got victimized in school by their teachers or bullied, like to see other folk struggle and hurt whilst getting enjoyment from it.

Fortunatly my uncle was a good one, he helped people by arranging payment plans from real income assessments.

Bailiffs are ..., they take the food from childrens mouths and the furniture from pensioners. They don't care who they hurt or what consequences their actions cause, all they care about is their commission added to their pay packet at the end of the month.

If your a bailiff your a ... bag and you know it, end of! (this is not aimed at julie)

Now get a real job instead of STEALING from others.

LEGALIZED STEALING is what it is granny.
Posted By: julie253 Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 3:21pm
Thats only your uncle though. I happen to know others and they are not like that at all. It is like any industry - there are good and bad and you have obviously had dealings with the bad. Take council tax for example - if people aren't made to pay - then do you want to pay their share? I think not!!
Think outside the box and consider people who are put in financial difficulty through people who don't pay their debts!
Posted By: julie253 Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 3:24pm
I would also like to say that there are correct procedures that should be followed and a good bailiff will do his job with the utmost respect to people and their property.
Posted By: Candlyfloss Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 4:44pm
Originally Posted by julie253
I would also like to say that there are correct procedures that should be followed and a good bailiff will do his job with the utmost respect to people and their property.
They can take what they want i heard,except your beds.
If your on benefits and in debt. Does Baillifs still take your stuff or do you get your benefits cut????
Posted By: julie253 Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 5:02pm
There are procedures to be followed before your goods can be taken and this only happens as a last resort. In my opinion there is a huge difference between "can't pay" and "won't pay". I have no idea if your benefits get cut.

I also think that some people could be very offended by some of the comments on this thread and before anybody comments I am not a bailiff!! I just think that every person and every case should be judged on their own merits and not be tarred by the same brush!

Bad bailiffs should be reported and can be reported to certain bodies just as bankers, insurance etc can be.


Posted By: Bobario Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 6:43pm
iirc a bailiff can only gain entry to your home under a police warrant signed by a magistrate, and these are only issued in the case of unpaid court fines or taxes. Civil debts are different, they can only enter your home if you leave a door or window unlocked, and if you bar their way they cant push you out of the way to gain entry. They can take anything outside your home, e.g. a car or caravan etc. Also according to some obscure law once a bailiff has been invited into your home, they can gain entry at any time and by whatever means. So don't let them in in the first place. They can add as many fees as they like to your bill, but in the end will have to refer the debt back to the people you owe the money to, telling them they were unable to collect it.

Only ever deal with the company or individual you owe money to, not a bailiff. If more people were aware of their rights, these bullies wouldn't be able to scare so many people.
Posted By: Grosvenor Re: Bailiffs..... - 7th Mar 2013 9:03pm
Always make sure they are Bailiffs. You'll sometimes get "Doorstep Callers" from credit card companies who have no rights whatsoever. Bailiffs only have rights with a Court Order. Always ask to see the Court Order and to see I.D. If they have neither call the police.
Posted By: conan Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 7th Mar 2013 9:47pm


Incorrect!

My uncle was a bailiff and has told me exactly what goes on and how they get cash out of folk.

Put it this way, people are gullible and will believe anything, only bailiffs to the courts can enter your property and take goods.

"Look, all the nieghbours are watching, quick let me in" Theres humiliation.

Torment is constant phone calls day and night.

Bullying is exactly right, especially to the less vulnerable of society ie: women with children.

Revenge is correct, fools that got victimized in school by their teachers or bullied, like to see other folk struggle and hurt whilst getting enjoyment from it.

Fortunatly my uncle was a good one, he helped people by arranging payment plans from real income assessments.

Bailiffs are ..., they take the food from childrens mouths and the furniture from pensioners. They don't care who they hurt or what consequences their actions cause, all they care about is their commission added to their pay packet at the end of the month.

If your a bailiff your a ... bag and you know it, end of! (this is not aimed at julie)

Now get a real job instead of STEALING from others.

LEGALIZED STEALING is what it is granny. [/quote]


clap withthat

There are many people struggling out there.
Yes there may be some who can and WONT pay,but many on benefits who cant pay and are intimidated into paying what they cant afford to..
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 8th Mar 2013 1:39pm
The BBC did a reality programme on them:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01dy6m4

Posted By: julie253 Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 8th Mar 2013 3:05pm

Personally I would rather do that job than sit on my arse, have a number of kids and claiming benefits and being a burden on society - so would that make me ...?
I have always tried to help people on Wikiwirral but if this is the attitude of people on here then I'm wasting my time.
Posted By: pokerchamp Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 8th Mar 2013 5:18pm
so are you saying that people who have kids and are on benefits are ...?i dont think you labelling people is very helpfull do you?
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 8th Mar 2013 5:30pm
Originally Posted by pokerchamp
so are you saying that people who have kids and are on benefits are ...?i dont think you labelling people is very helpfull do you?


withthat

Also, by doing that kind of job Knowingly stealing and putting people in more debt let alone taking family's and their childrens food you would find it acceptable?

They laid the law down on the clampers, they should do the same for the bailiffs.
Posted By: LewiejEFC Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 11th Mar 2013 5:58pm
To be honest no i wouldnt like to do that job at all, however why some people cannot take responsibilty for their own actions is beyond me, i live alone pay all my bills run a car and im on £142 a fortnight, bills 1st eat later, [maybe]the only help i get and its only because im on a life saving drug is prescription exemption.How do i do it? when others cannot? btw i am a socialist however when banks were throwing money and credit at us left right and centre.i said no ,others may of done the same x
Posted By: pokerchamp Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 11th Mar 2013 6:11pm
your single and no children so i would imagine thats easier!people with family's and mortgages ect to pay cannot survive on benefits.and im pretty sure you get housing benefit or live with parents,so you get more help than your saying.
Posted By: LewiejEFC Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 11th Mar 2013 6:19pm
1st of all that was rude, no i run my own flat, and so what if iv no children? some people use children for almost everything, My Mum worked all her life had 3 children to bring up on her own, father waste of space. Was never ever in debt and your talking the back end of the 60s. Trouble is we were gratful for birthday and xmas gifts, kids now are not, and have attitudes that stink[not all granted] and its very rare you hear a thank you, please etc We had very good manners and respect and were not spolit little brats
Posted By: pokerchamp Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 11th Mar 2013 6:37pm
well seens as your getting 142 per fortnight, i would assume that is benefits as benefits are firstly paid every two weeks and secondly the going rate of jsa for a single person is £71pw!!!
so if your in receipt of state benefits then you will also be in receipt of housing benefit on some level also council tax help,
i myself have three children who have the "manners" you speak of....why because i was brought up well myself and have instilled these into my children who promptly thank you for something they receive from a gift to a drink of water its all the same to them.

i agree that some kids are vile with their lack of manners ect but there not my children.

you may be able to survive on what you get but add three children into the equasion and boom a whole world of unforseen expenses are thrown at you when you either least expect them and almost certainly when you cannot afford them, but we do what we do as does everyone in this current climate. what works for one wont necessarly work for someone else, but he without sin and all that.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 11th Mar 2013 6:55pm
How can you run a car on that much?

I put about £70 a week in 1 of my cars oshocked
Posted By: eggandchips Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 11th Mar 2013 7:16pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7CnrqD1L-Q

these are the kind of tactics they use
Posted By: ASE71 Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 11th Mar 2013 10:23pm
Those coppers are in so much trouble. Trespass isn't a criminal offence, its civil. The police have interfered and attempted to guide a court appointed official. The police were clueless and that scouse bloke was just another deluded cretin like Roger Hayes, And lets not forget were he is now.... Walton i think.

But unfortunately the scouse bloke was right. Re possession has to be peaceful, if someone is there getting in your way, the bailiff has to leave. That's why most are done when the tenant is known to be out.The bailiff should have walked away instantly, and gone back when he was out. No need for the police and all the hassle.
Posted By: LewiejEFC Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 12th Mar 2013 12:18pm
Hi i really didnt want to offend anybody,in fact i didnt think my post would even get a response! I trust u that your children are brought up well by you and have manners,which is great to hear the point really i was making when i originally said 'people need to take responsability for their own actions' was i know a lot of people who took out credit cards for things like holidays new handbags etc!and then got the debt taken away! no i dont know what its like to bring up 3 kiddies. To answer your question yes i do get some help but it isnt much i can assure you.i dont have much[and im not moaning] but what i do have,iv had for over 15 years as iv had to take care of my furniture etc. Friends again? LOL
Posted By: LewiejEFC Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 12th Mar 2013 12:20pm
Id be lucky to put 70 pound a month in my car!
Posted By: LewiejEFC Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 12th Mar 2013 12:45pm
Im sure some people on here think im in favour of baliffs[im not at all
Posted By: eddtheduck Re: Bailiffs.....SCUM THIEVES - 12th Mar 2013 5:30pm
end of the day a job is a job, and no-one can be fussy, where they work. if you ask everyone on here if they love there job how many would say yes. smile
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