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Posted By: Mark Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 10th Aug 2015 10:47am
Looks like its going up to £3.20 a visit.



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Yes Mark your right ,also staff are having to start paying for parking from sept ,fees on 'sliding scale' deducted from wages .
They are saying we are 'paying' to use 'access barrier 'to gain entry to carpark .In all honestly it is,nt much , but the overall revenue will be massive ...as the NHS are the second highest employers on the wirral .
Posted By: davew3 Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 10th Aug 2015 3:51pm
Try the parking at Liverpool Royal, if you get on one of the two bit of waste land it's £3 all day, go to the Royal car-park and it can cost you £9 a day,that excludes £1:70p tunnel each way, today it cost us £7 parking and £1:70p tunnel each way seems the people of Wirral will be paying that sort of prices when they move Clatterbridge over to that site, it's your NHS but the parking is somebody elses
hey missmahjong - I thought staff already paid for parking? My wife works there and has a car park tag - already pays by monthly salary deduction
I work at Clatterbridge , 10 years , and up to now have not paid towards parking , i believe it is/was because i 'work' for CCC , which is run by a differant part of of the trust . I am a domestic on 5/8 shift..But it looks like all change.....
ok, but even so £3.20 is ridiculous, thats £16 a week...they should be stopped..
There is loads of free parking, they give the option of premium parking to help fund all parking (yes, shock horror, car parks do cost money).

They can't win, one minute they get criticised that NHS money is being used for car parking, the next they get criticised for charging for car parks ..... you can't have it both ways!!!

They have recently been looking at having more flexible visiting hours to reduce the peak loading on parking and hence create more chance of getting a place in the free car parks.
Posted By: j_demo Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 10th Aug 2015 8:58pm
I always thought APH staff paid for their own parking to be honest, same with CBH staff, i thought they did too.

and in relation to "clatterbridge moving to the royal" it's only the CCC that's moving, the rest is staying.

I've not got a problem with paying to park at a hospital to visit, in fact i'm all for visitors paying, patients however i don't think should pay. They don't really have a choice, it's not like they're going there to do a bit of shopping or anything.
Staff do get charged to use the staff car park at APH, though I can't see any legal way of preventing them from using the free car parks (if they can find a space). The free car parks are free because they on parkland and hence are public car parks, the council may be able to charge for them but the hospital can't.
Posted By: granny Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 11th Aug 2015 9:31am
Originally Posted by j_demo

and in relation to "clatterbridge moving to the royal" it's only the CCC that's moving, the rest is staying.



Is that definite and when ?
The Clatterbridge Cancer Centre is now at Aintree University Hospital( was Fazakerley)and the car parking charges there are a lot more than Arrowe Park, so with the tunnel costs and fuel even for a visit to the clinic say for 2 hours it will cost in the region of £10 to £12.
Posted By: granny Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 11th Aug 2015 10:03am
I understood Fazakerley unit was just part of the network, not that Clatterbridge had closed down in place of.



Posted By: granny Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 11th Aug 2015 10:09am
If they do close CC Clatterbridge, then it will rebound and cost the NHS much more in hindsight. Who is going to be prepared (or even able) to pay all the travel costs when they have to receive radiotherapy every day for 5 weeks at least.
Considering how much cancer is on the increase, the hospital transport will cost an arm and a leg for picking up and dropping off all those sick people who need transporting there and back.

Posted By: cools Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 11th Aug 2015 11:04am
From when I worked there we were told about 5 maybe less years the wards and the main bulk of the Clatterbridge cancer centre would have moved over to Liverpool . I understood that there would still be treatment going on in Bebington but to a far lesser degree. It's a great shame because CCC at beb is well respected and is a very friendly and caring place. I think it's because it's quite small and people don't get lost and become just numbers as sometimes happens in big hospitals. It will be mussed very much I think, both by staff and patients..
Clatterbridge CC site is just an outpost now, the main unit is at Aintree. To pacify the objectors to this move they kept the name even though it causes total confusion. In retaliation they should rename the Clatterbridge site to Aintree.

Many treatments are for people from outside the area so the transport hasn't changed much for most.

Last time I was at Aintree the multi story car parking was adequate but trying to find a wheelchair was impossible. Sign posting left a lot to desire as well.
Posted By: granny Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 11th Aug 2015 11:32am
Four and a half yrs since I had my treatment at Clatterbridge. . It was absolutely heaving , daily. At least 5 radiotherapy rooms and everyone used approx. every 10 mins. From 8.30am to 6pm and beyond sometimes, to clear the areas. So if treatment has been reduced to a lesser degree in Clatterbridge, I would say that was necessary to cope with demand.

Many did come from outside of the areas, eg Isle of Man , They (or their relatives)would have accommodation for their period there, but now they have transferred to Fazakerley. Must say, Liverpool accommodation is much more expensive and not such a nice place to be holed up in, with stress ,nerves and a general feeling of being worried about your nearest and dearest.
Even so, many Wirral patients were treated there at Clatterbridge and what an excellent place it was/is, from every angle.

The cancer unit also had free parking
Granny you are right ,the CCC car park ,in front of the main entrance is free to patients .I dont know if that will change in sept ..Staff are being asked not to use it ...A lot of treatment areas and MRI/ PET scans have evening appointments .
Posted By: cools Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 11th Aug 2015 7:28pm
Don't think the big move has happened yet DD, maybe bits have moved over but eventually there will be no wards at the Beb site but I think it will still have a couple of radiotherapy machines left . Don't know what will happen to all those wardsjust been totally refurbished in the last few years, maybe go private?there is still lots going on at Clatterbridge Beb that will stay. Become a sattalite centre for CCC. Is that what you heard Missy?
I don't know what services remain at Clatterbridge but a lot are done at Aintree, they seem to have removed the emphasis that Aintree would be the main site and now say its networked service across ten sites. There is reference to Aintree as a satellite - I hope they aren't as confused as I am.

First treatment at Aintree happened in early 2011.
Posted By: cools Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 11th Aug 2015 8:32pm
Well DD I worked there for years and I left still confused about it all really, I can only say what I was led to believe would happen. Watch this space i suppose.
Posted By: granny Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 12th Aug 2015 8:35am
We have digressed from Arrowe Park parking charges, but little point in starting another thread for Clatterbridge.

It is confusing, but after having a good look at different sources last night, it would appear that there is still to be certain cancers treated at Clatterbridge. The Sulley Ward, which I think used to be for those patients from the Isle of Man, will be used for patients aged 16 to 24, and the new Papillion Centre, which was only completed a couple of years ago, has been opened as a specialist centre for rectal cancer/bowel cancer. Treatment having been pioneered by a particular consultant who worked/works at Clatterbridge and is now hoping to see it go world wide. We have amazing people in this area.
Therefore, it could be that each hospital will be used for a different type of cancer, but as Cools says, it's not being made very clear.
Posted By: granny Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 12th Aug 2015 3:56pm
They are saying the increase is because of the company that provides the barriers have put their charges up,so why not have the barriers taken down and have free car parking for everyone ? The land belongs to the hospital(I assume) so if they're not making any profit from the car park, what's the problem in removing the barriers. The fees must be going to the hospital, and the land must belong to the hospital, otherwise they would surely not be allowed to deduct the staff car parking charges from wages. If they are collecting it on behalf of another company ....I find that quite unethical mainly due to the fact that the NHS will be getting interest on the massive amount of fees collected. That can't be right ,Can it ???
Posted By: granny Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 12th Aug 2015 4:07pm
2,095 parking spaces at Arrow Park Hospital !
Posted By: Mark Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 12th Aug 2015 4:15pm
New exit at A1 cark Park.
Current terms of parking.

Barriers replaced by plastic temp ones as Car Park A1 looks to be Extended, but will it remain free??.


Description: New Exit For Carpark A1, Thats the carpark around to the left of A & E
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Posted By: Nigel Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 13th Aug 2015 7:54am
Just as a heads up, the staff at the Royal Liverpool to pay £35.00/month minimum by salary deduction to use parking facilities at the hospitals within the trust.
Posted By: cools Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 13th Aug 2015 8:10am
That's a big chunk of money out your wages. Doesn't seem right to me that you should have to pay to go to work. Scandalous!
Posted By: Mark Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 31st Aug 2015 12:53pm
Looks like the changes are going to be very soon, as the barriers and the machines have now been removed from the car park around the back and put on this new exit.
Top picture. Its the car park around the back or left of the main hospital.

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Posted By: Mark Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 7th Sep 2015 3:16pm
Frustrating parking at Arrowe Park Hospital today.

New parking spaces and trees being removed causing chaos as there fencing off the areas to be worked on.

This is the free car park around the back not in front of the hospital.

Avoid today and at least tomorrow if you can.

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Posted By: cools Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 7th Sep 2015 3:36pm
It's chaos up there at the best of times, think it would be wise to get the bus. I would always park in the Arrowe park pub years ago when I had to visit there, but they have stopped you doing that threats of clamping etc....
Cools, there is a bus (or there used to be) from Sainsbury's car park on the Upton roundabout, down to APH. That seems a better option, as there is really nowhere else about to put a vehicle any longer.
Posted By: Mark Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 26th Dec 2015 10:13am
New Machines, Barrier machines have been fitted at the car park around the back, replacing working machines??

This brings them inline with the other exit that was built, so im guess new parking regulations will kick in very soon.

For a period of time its been possible to park in the carpark around the back. It turned into chaos because staff begin to use it as restrictions had been ignored while the car park did not operate the barriers.

Parking eye again.
Arrowe Park Hospital have said they spent £1,480,247 on car park schemes including creating additional spaces and redesigning access and exit routes for buses. Which is more than they received in parking fees.

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Posted By: Mark Re: Arrowe Park Hospital Parking Charges Increase - 29th Dec 2015 6:14pm
Originally Posted by A spokesman
A spokesman for the hospital trust said: “We do not make a profit from car parking.

“Our car parking is managed in-house and not through an external car parking company.


looks like TPS to me ..

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