was reading in the local newspaper last night that they are moving food distribution centers to wallsey and couldnt believe it how can the government let people/families live in such despair,to become so poverty stricken that we need places like these?it made me very angry and very sad to think there are such hard up families living on the wirral.sad times indeed.

I'd be really interested in finding out more.
I have an allotment and usually have a surplus of fruit and veg even after I've passed it out to my neighbours, would be nice to be able to donate to somewhere like this and know that the produce was going to be put to good use and to people who really need it
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We used to go to Thombo's, there's always been people on Wirral with a bit less than others. Never thought it would come to big distribution centres though, it don't ring right.

its in the wirral news think its run by local churches etc its so nice to know there are people like you out there who still care and are willing to help out others even though times are hard for everyone!

its unbelievable isnt it bandy so sad. :((

Oh my god!----rewind} don't know why I wrote that as there's no such thing! Damn don't let the media get ya, drill all kinds a crap into ya brain so they do.

No, let's not help the people in our own country who prefer to spend their dole money on drink and drugs, how about helping these peeps out instead and putting the money to a better cause eh?

Damn people are so messed up.

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If it is the one run by the Churches, then it will be very many pensioners who are donating! That doesn't seem right either does it ?

I happen to find it diabolical that they are taking from the good pensioners of Wirral.
Nobody goes without in this country, they get sufficient funds for living expenses, they maybe minimal but what do peeps expect? Money for jewellery, nights out on town, ciggies, ale? People seem to forget that those little items are a luxury.

There are genuine people in this world that need helping out who don't get anything at all! Never mind people who have it easy in our country getting free dole money to spend on what they like.

Blooming outrageous, taking from pensioners

Whatever next

well ste thats a very blinkered way to see things its a shame that you think everyone in wallasey or the wirral who claims benefits is a smackhead or lazy im sure that would make lots of people very angry though i do agree with what you say about pensioners however it just happens the benefactors for these distribution centres are the big supermarkets not pensioners so your point is mute

To be honest i totally agree with Ste, JSA benefit and simular benefits like non working parents child benefits should be provided via food stamps and utility bills and a bus pass for travel with a pocket money allowance of 10 per week. this would ensure that the people who enjoy the free ride lifestyle would want to get a job and try harder rather than spawn out more children for more money etc.

Food and bills are essential with clothing money is not needed for anything else.

When may i ask did i say everyone in wallasey or wirral who claim benefits are "smackheads"?

It was you who said that, not me....



Sooo columbo, if these familys cannot afford food (even though the cash for the said food is provided for them free) where is the money going that they are provided with?




Bloody good point made by popeye, "stamps" excellent idea, that would go well with the method of paying the landlord direct too

read the papers take a look around and read up your own comments to find the drug reference you made first hercule i was only saying how sad for some families to be in such a dire situation no need to feel you have to get on your high horse as if you know everything ignorance is bliss after all i spose

Lauralou2, Ste's opinion is not blinkered and it's not mute.He is quite correct except for one thing.No one is forced. If the Church are organising this food distribution, (as you said), then firstly they put out an appeal to the congregations of the Churches, and as we know the majority are pensioners these days. They donate willingly and are not forced at all, but that is what the Church and congregation is about. You'd be surprised how many charitable organisiations they help and how much hard work is done behind the scenes, without shouting about it. They never stop!
Even if the suprmarkets do get involved, how much will you be donating to the cause, or is that not the sort of thing you do, because you would rather rely on others, supermarkets or not?

What distribution centres are you on about?

You mean soup kitchens?

No, she means food distribution centres, but it obviously doesn't apply to some to assist only others!

These schemes exist (and are quite established) in the United States, because if you don't work, you're only entitled to benefits for so long, and then they get removed. So those who choose not to work, get a very limited amount of state aid. The problem has been exacerbated by the current US unemployment problems however.

Over here, there is no need for the scheme because the government pays more than enough in benefits for individuals and families alike to live, housing benefit, council tax benefit, JSA/IS/ESA, tax credits, DLA, etc, the list goes on and on and Ariston...

You will find that people who turn up at these centres either don't need it fullstop, but want something else for nothing, or are seeing it an opportunity to spend their money on other things, or are struggling to make ends meet because they are spending their money on drink, drugs and other things that the "safety net" aka state benefits, are not, and were never, intended for.

Just for being on JSA, any single person over 25 would be getting circa ~£300 per month to spend on what the hell they want, after their rent and council tax bills have been paid. Not to mention access to free dentistry and free prescriptions (all costs that an employed person has to pay, dentistry prices can run into the hundreds).

Many people on JSA who have never done a days work in their lives, are driving cars, wearing brand-named clothes, buying LCD televisions, Xbox's etc, so anyone who really believes there is a need for these schemes needs their heads testing. Looks like the church are responding to a problem that does not exist, but then it was all the bloody Bishops who tried to stand in the way of the government bringing in a fair £26,000 per annum (the equivalent to a job paying £35,000 per annum gross) limit to state benefits. Wouldn't surprise me if the churches were running these schemes to make a political point.

ok these centres are for everyone working families too not just people who claim benefits i dont understand why everyone has such a hard time understanding some people are having an very hard time financially at the moment WORKING PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GO THESE CENTRES TOO!

and i thought people on here might have a little more empathy for those less well off

Same goes for working people too, if they choose to gamble their money away it's their problemo!

Why are you so agitated about this?



Calm down calm down

Thompson's Mission as far as I know have been doing meals for homeless and other (needy?) people for several years and still doing it.
Don't know how you get admission in there though.

Charles Thompson is a walk in centre for a drink and sandwich.It closes around midday.The food bank is organised from Heswall and is still in its infancy but yes churchs are organising cash collections. A lot of poverty is due to mental health problems. Also a single persons allowance is £68 a week on income support plus ofourse rent paid but just think how much it costs to heat a house, to buy a bus ticket etc.
I agree there is no such poverty as in parts of Africa but children of the sick and unemployed like computer games going swimming and nice clothes the same as other children, many parents get into debt so that their children are not different from other children.

because ste lifes really tough for some people and now your saying people must gamble their money away if they work but still struggling well oh my lord of the rings what planet do you live on.

Maybe we need more of a scrimpers mindset to permeate our society. Theres nothing more annoying than seeing people 'wasting' the money the Govt has given them ,on unecessary things such as ,for example ready prepared veggies,vacuum packed this and that food, fancy cotton wool balls(against a whole roll at the same price) , posh makeup, hair highlights at £70+ quid a throw, branded trainers and ear piercings for their toddler,the latest 'i'phone, Subway sandwiches, lighting their home like Blackpool, etc etc and therefore ending up not having sufficient money.
Lots of us have seen people we know who are on benefits ,living like that . Criticising Some of these lower end expenditures sounds petty, but theyre symptomatic of some peoples inability or maybe disinclination to rein in their spending, across the board .
Is it any surprise that those people who have been brought up to 'look after the pennies so the pounds look after themselves' , and who have scrimped and/or done without to ensure they lived (and still live) within their means, feel ambivolent towards benefit receivers?

There are many people around who are very genuinely broke because of certain circumstances, regardless of how hard they try to economise , and they most definitely deserve our help .
Its sad, but the problem is, that the 'wasters' (although hopefully they are only a small percentage of benefit consumers), get disproportionately noticed , and leave a bad taste in peoples mouths against ALL people on benefits.

Whoever mentioned the idea of vouchers for essentials being given, I agree with that. It would go a long way to addressing the problem.

Edit to the above post.
I thought Id better add - I know its not just benefit claimants that 'waste' their finances by the way. I wouldnt feel any happier about a working family who squandered their income on unecessaries, claiming charitable community help to subsidize their profligate way of life.

I agree Venice there is no doubt that there needs to be education on budgeting etc but such schemes cost money and the take up is low. Meanwhile children have to be fed and it is difficult to manage on benefits.Frankly I cannot see how a person on benefits could afford £70 for a hairstyle.A lot of the trainers etc are bought through catalogues and there is a never ending repayment eating away at the budget.A couple of years ago the government somewhat madly changed the rules on housing benefit and rents are now paid directly to the tenant rather than direct to landlord resulting in massive arrears so I cannot see a voucher scheme for food being introduced regardless of the advantage of any such scheme.

Hnyes Hnyes.

I am living in reality and not some fairy fantasy world

I spend my money on booze or cars and have no money for food then it's tough luck, i ain't gonna go scrounging around shelters when theres real people in the world that have nothing and DESERVE the help!

Think about it.

Sheesh



Now that's a corker!