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Posted By: Headcoat_TheMrs Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 12:01pm
Does anyone know what is happening to Volclay on Birknhead Road, Seacombe? It's great they have demolished it, just curious what it's going to be. I can't find anything in Planning for it.

Also, is there a planning thread on here? I can't find one, and it may be useful if one was created so we can post any planning applications which others may be concerned about.
Posted By: KevinFinity Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 12:30pm
I have no idea but Houses or flats seem to be the default replacement for almost everything these days.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 12:36pm
That is a well known area for drug users and anti social behaviour, I really can't see anyone building apartments there as the prices will be low.
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 1:17pm
Hi Steve the land Volclay is on is owned by, Peel Holdings massive company they actually own most of the Dock land in Wallasey with Amcol (an american company)owning a small amount of it.Not sure what they are going to do with the land when they have finninshed flattening it But what a view looking over to Liverpool smile
Posted By: KevinFinity Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 1:46pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
That is a well known area for drug users and anti social behaviour, I really can't see anyone building apartments there as the prices will be low.


The thing is though, 20 years ago know one would have thought people would be moving into secure and swanky apartments on Liverpool and Wallesy dock roads.

On the other hand, I seem to recall a couple of years ago that mps where toying with the idea of creating 'sin bin' estates to dump anti social families in that had been evicted from elsewhere and that area was one of the suggested sites. It was never really going to happen though.
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 3:25pm
yes that`s true smile
Posted By: Headcoat_TheMrs Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 4:54pm
They have cleared all the machines, and left the 'silver' office building, which they have put new windows in and done it up, looks like they are also building an extension to it. Not houses tha's for sure, although what a great bit of land all over that area for nice houses. That would also have the effect of brining the rest of the area up....(if that's possible) smile
Posted By: Chorizo Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 10:25pm
I happen to live at the top of the hill opposite volclay and its a fine area! Haha no honestly some areas obviously are bad around here but its quite quiet where I live.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 11:12pm
It's ment to going to be some training complex? Well that's what I was told last year..
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Volclay - 14th Jan 2012 11:57pm
The council development document 2010 listed the development of Scotts Quay to be around 2020-2025.



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Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Volclay - 15th Jan 2012 12:03am
Hello DD i don`t know how they can plan that far ahead in such fast developing area ,can the council put down plans when they don`t own the area? Do Peels holdings know about this ,only as far as i know they are a huge outfit also Amcol (An American company )own a fare bit too just a thought speculation and all that smile
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Volclay - 15th Jan 2012 12:10am
Amcol bought Volclay out.

Peel have got a LOT of plans for the Wirral, including a development all the way from Woodside down to near enough Eastham.

Its mostly long term stuff, as their current and future developments start returning money they like to know their options as to how to use the money.

All in favour of them developing on scrap land or modern sites, but I'd like to see them a bit more sympathetic to heritage stuff as well. I couldn't believe they kicked the historic warships out, I thought the ships would be a positive asset to their development not a negative one.
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Volclay - 15th Jan 2012 12:18am
Hey they don`t care about herritage it`s not theirs they invest here purely for the money and they have shed loads of the stuff ,if they thought it would give them an income i think they would do some thing but only to make them selves look good in the eye`s of who ever they are trying to impress at the time smile
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Volclay - 15th Jan 2012 12:33am
I know they are money based - but in their literature when they are selling/leasing, heritage aspects are normally a plus, the historic warships would have taken up a minimal amount of develop-able land whilst being a major feature.
Posted By: poodlepup Re: Volclay - 15th Jan 2012 12:58am
Yes have to agree here about the warships being a major feature,its a real shame i think they were an extra bonus that would have sat nicely alongside Peels development plans.


Posted By: little_pob Re: Volclay - 15th Jan 2012 12:54pm
With the conversion of the mill to appartments, and the Wirral Waters plans, Peel said the Historic Warships couldn't stay were they were (parking etc). Around the same time the charity that ran the Historic Warships attraction had their major benefactor withdraw financial support, so they couldn't actually afford to move to another site.

Though, had they been able to raise the money, I believe they had planned a river-side site near Cammell Lairds (Egerton Dock or Albert Dock would have been better choices IMO).
Posted By: FiremanFil Re: Volclay - 15th Jan 2012 12:57pm
I used to do maintenance work at Volclay when it was open. It was a horrible, gungy place-full of dust and grease, so I think knocking it down and building something nice and aesthetic can only be good for the Wirral and the view from Liverpool.
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