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Posted By: cappy00000 New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 4:01pm
Does anyone know if there will be a third phase of development in New Brighton? I'm a local resident but have only been on the prom to see the development twice. I can't say I was very impressed with what I saw. As someone who has always wanted to see a new dawn for New Brighton, is this the best they can come up with - a retail park. I was very disappointed to say the least. Surely they are not just leaving us with this.

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Posted By: ickymicky Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 4:12pm
What you see is pretty much it.

http://www.neptunedevelopments.co.uk/devdocs/NEW%20BRIGHTON.pdf
Posted By: little_pob Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 5:16pm
A casino should be opening in the summer.

The empty building at the far end of the development (next to the model boat lake) was supposed to be the "lido", but Neptune couldn't get anyone interested to take a lease for that use. Council actually stuck to their guns for a long while saying it had to be used for leisure, but last I read it was to become a soft play area plus splash pool for kids.

There was a planning application in to build flats on the next to the Floral, at the bottom of Victoria Parade. Not heard much more about it though.

Last I heard the guy that owns the site between The Queens and what was Bobby's Bar has had separate plans for apartments and retail units knocked back.
Posted By: manic28_am Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 5:17pm
Its a lot better than it was. Compare NB to West Kirby. NB has more.
Posted By: NewBrighton Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 5:28pm
This posting represents exactly what has been wrong with New Brighton for the past 20 years, negativity - glass half empty. Never happy, never grateful........don't mention job creation, the increase in visitors and ultimately an increase in spending locally, no let's just moan and say 'Is that all there is'???????? unbelievable.

Originally Posted by cappy00000
Does anyone know if there will be a third phase of development in New Brighton? I'm a local resident but have only been on the prom to see the development twice. I can't say I was very impressed with what I saw. As someone who has always wanted to see a new dawn for New Brighton, is this the best they can come up with - a retail park. I was very disappointed to say the least. Surely they are not just leaving us with this.

Try to delete this topic as it is in the wrong forum. Sorry about that, perhaps one of the mods can help out. Thanks.

Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 5:53pm
I was excited about the Lido. Lost interest now theres no Lido. frown
Posted By: missj Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 5:53pm
Yes I thought that too, of course we'd have loved to recreate the open air pool or something equally spectacular but I've been loads of times and it's a million times better than it was, it hasnt spoiled the area at all - there's still loads of open spaces at the dips and on the front for people to do what they always did there, except now we have somewhere to have a coffee and a bite to eat, somewhere to go see a movie, Home Bargains to buy cheap beach supplies like buckets and spades etc if we ever get a summer and a great supermarket that's giving Asda a run for its money! Lets not forget the jobs that have been created, albeit for people outside the area in many cases but give it time...locals will outnumber the people brought in to work here before very long I'm sure. Nice to see the artists impression is very similar to what we have there now, it's an attractive development. Let's hope Wirral Waters doesn't take as long to get off the ground as Marine Point did with all the opposition.
Posted By: boogaloo Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 5:54pm
Theres going to be a wethespoons by the clubs, a hungy horse next to the light cinema, prezzo an italian restaurant across from the light cinema, the new casino is coming soom and remember we have the new swimming baths aswell, and theres space for more. i work for the light cinema, hope that helps xx
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 6:01pm
How is business at the Light cinema? I've yet to visit but friends/ family who have are raving about it. smile
Posted By: boogaloo Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 7:02pm
The cinema is doing great, thanks for asking, weve exceeded our expectations and every1 seems to love it, u should give us a go. cheaper prices and all v.i.p seating so lots of leg room. people have fell asleep its that comfy haha xx
Posted By: j_demo Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 7:18pm
a hungry horse is opening up

derby pool is now f**ked

but looking forward to it, the railway in west kirby/hoylake (i often get confused lol) is one of my fave restaurants EVER!
Posted By: boogaloo Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 7:35pm
And the queens will lose business, dont understand why so many are opening but suppose people will come. cant wait myself, im gona be huge trying all the food out haha xx
Posted By: KevinFinity Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 7:42pm
Originally Posted by jawide
a hungry horse is opening up

derby pool is now f**ked

but looking forward to it, the railway in west kirby/hoylake (i often get confused lol) is one of my fave restaurants EVER!


Its in Meols.
Posted By: Bezzymate Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 7:56pm
Originally Posted by NewBrighton
This posting represents exactly what has been wrong with New Brighton for the past 20 years, negativity - glass half empty. Never happy, never grateful........don't mention job creation, the increase in visitors and ultimately an increase in spending locally, no let's just moan and say 'Is that all there is'???????? unbelievable.

Originally Posted by cappy00000
Does anyone know if there will be a third phase of development in New Brighton? I'm a local resident but have only been on the prom to see the development twice. I can't say I was very impressed with what I saw. As someone who has always wanted to see a new dawn for New Brighton, is this the best they can come up with - a retail park. I was very disappointed to say the least. Surely they are not just leaving us with this.

Try to delete this topic as it is in the wrong forum. Sorry about that, perhaps one of the mods can help out. Thanks.

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Posted By: atw1960 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 9:04pm
I think that these developments are the best thing to happen to New Brighton for years. After so many promises and let downs , we're seeing a lovely new theatre , a supermarket , cinema and much else.
Give us a good summer(I know , I know)and we may see loads of people going to New Brighton and spending money . As missj said the waterfront & the dips are still there - with free parking - yes - free parking. For once , I think the glass is full. Let's enjoy it!
Posted By: Bezzymate Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 9:05pm
Originally Posted by atw1960
I think that these developments are the best thing to happen to New Brighton for years. After so many promises and let downs , we're seeing a lovely new theatre , a supermarket , cinema and much else.
Give us a good summer(I know , I know)and we may see loads of people going to New Brighton and spending money . As missj said the waterfront & the dips are still there - with free parking - yes - free parking. For once , I think the glass is full. Let's enjoy it!
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Posted By: arwen444 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 11th Mar 2012 10:15pm
has anyone seen that disgusting burger van parked on the empty site next to the queens and putting tables up its filthy. wonder if they have a license for it. newbrighton seems much busier now all the units are opening up.now they are putting their chairs out the front of their restaurents its giveing it a holiday feel.cinema is great, morrisons is great.shame there wont be a pool though
Posted By: tess1968 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 9:45am
hi this van isnt filthy i took my family down new brighton yesterday and the people on the van were lovely and i did notice how clean the inside was as u can see in, the food was lovely and the children enjoyed the hot dogs
Posted By: Chorizo Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 10:04am
Don't really understand why you would go down to New Brighton with all the new (and old) places to eat and choose a burger van but each to their own!
Posted By: tess1968 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 10:10am
new brighton is a lovely place to visit, and it was nice for a change to eat outside as sun was shining, i am fussy were i eat and so are my children
Posted By: concerned Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 11:45am
Hi, i have to agree! I was walking my dog down at New Brighton yesterday and had a lovely chicken and bacon wrap of the buttie van! It was ideal seeing as though I would't be allowed in anywhere else with the dog! And I 'm also very fussy about what I eat and how its cooked! The van looked very clean to me and the staff very polite! What is wrong with people trying to make some money? At least they are not sitting around complaining they haven't got a job!!
Posted By: Wench Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 12:28pm
I'm happy with the way New Brighton is going. I won't be trying the Hungry Horse though, or the van. The fact the van board stated they sold "Sandwish, burgers and 6 cans" was enough to put me off!

I'd rather pay a bit extra and eat in The Queen's & PDR and know I'm getting decent food cooked by real chefs, using local produce, instead of some pub chain where a lot is microwaved (I've worked in some so I know).
Posted By: Norton Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 1:31pm
Originally Posted by cappy00000
Does anyone know if there will be a third phase of development in New Brighton?


An application was passed for the land at the bottom of Victoria Road, next to the Floral and opposite the flats that once were the Chelsea Reach (ex Pier Hotel). This was at the end of March 2011 and read "24 apartments and 24 associated car parking spaces, plus 13 car parking spaces reserved for Floral Hall Theatre, with vehicular accesses from Virginia Road, and complementary hard and soft landscaping." The approval lasts for three years.
It's got Neptunes name on it, and can be viewed at Wirral Planning App site.

I happened to be at the public planning meeting that night and it appears that this was the third such application for appartments at that site. We were told that 'to do nothing was not an option' as no suitable plans had been forthcoming. (Before or after the toilets were 'accidently' demolished, I wonder?)
The architects described this block as having a hint of Art Deco about it, while the critics of the plan claimed that it looked more like a small block of flats on the front of a Spanist tourist resort.

We'll see.
Posted By: mrhanky Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 2:34pm
saw some surveying/measuring going on there a few weeks ago.
Posted By: cappy00000 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 3:23pm
A few people have the impression that I am one of those who is opposed to New Brighton's redevelopment. That could not be further from the truth but this development just doesn't have that "wow factor".

Where are the big attractions that will draw people into the town? There still isn't much there to do. As for the third phase being a block of flats, the last thing the town needs is more residential development.

What the town needs are attractions and facilities that will bring day trippers and holiday makers to the town. A retail park (because that's all it is)won't do that.
Posted By: little_pob Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 5:02pm
The Council were never going to allow NB to steal visitors that would otherwise have gone to West Kirby and it was never going to be able to compete with Southport let alone Blackpool.

As a seaside resort, there is little to do in New Brighton - and that may well be your point. But as a leisure and night spot, New Brighton now has more facilities, has the heritage and, perhaps just as importantly, an improvable reputation.

To my mind the best thing for New Brighton for a phase 'N' would be a new ferry terminal (even if it was only open in the summer) and reinstatement of the Wirral Show. Then expand as needed; pier etc.
Posted By: nickie Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 5:35pm
Originally Posted by boogaloo
Theres going to be a wethespoons by the clubs, a hungy horse next to the light cinema, prezzo an italian restaurant across from the light cinema, the new casino is coming soom and remember we have the new swimming baths aswell, and theres space for more. i work for the light cinema, hope that helps xx



Where and when will the Hungry Horse be opening?
Posted By: NewBrighton Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 7:49pm
What we have to do is make the most of what we have and make use the of facilities that are here to get the most out of them.

Too many people spend time wanting to bring back 'the good old days' and what New Brighton used to be. Petitioning for so called attractions like the pier ...... it would be too expensive. Lets be honest most seaside piers consist of a long walk and have a cafe and two slot machine businesses at the end, why spend thousands and thousands for that.

We have a fantastic Fort that's in need of repair, lets get behind Doug and support him to raise funds so that it can be restored to something fantastic.

We have an amazing Marine lake that hardly anyone uses, we should have sailing lessons for private individuals and free lessons for schools, dragonboat race competitions for charities, wakeboarding exhibitions and lessons.

Location wise we could have speedboat races, maybe we could replace the pier with a jetty where yachts could moor, it would be cheaper and local fishermen could sell local produce.

As they say, the possibilities are endless, if we can just have a bit more imagination!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 8:29pm


They well fooked up New Brighton...In a BIG way !!

Thats it...... The end !

Posted By: Sanchez Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 9:04pm
I thought it was nice, pointless but nice.

The fact you can now get a cheap drink and feed from morrisons is a bonus, rather than pay a pedo icecream man £1.20 a can..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 9:29pm
Compared to what we had here 12 months ago New Brighton is fantastic and it's not finished yet! Give it a chance, we haven't even had a summer here since the new development yet. It's really busy on the front at weekends even now so it will be buzzing when the weather picks up. I love it, I'm sure it will get even better.
Posted By: jaki1 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 12th Mar 2012 11:26pm
anything new is a bonus.
i think what they have done and what else is coming to new brighton is brilliant.
i cant wait for it all to be finished
roll on the summer.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 13th Mar 2012 12:42am
Just a pity they couldn't have stuck to an art-Deco or Victorian theme instead of styles of buildings that are more fitting in an inner city and not a seaside resort.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 13th Mar 2012 12:58am
You need to get down here, it's great, new life in the old dog yet.
Posted By: jaki1 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 13th Mar 2012 1:10am
Originally Posted by CrocodileDundee
You need to get down here, it's great, new life in the old dog yet.

exactly.well said.
Posted By: Chorizo Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 13th Mar 2012 9:44am
I like it except for the morrisons. I do t mind having a morrisons but it would have been better else where not on the front. The money could have been better spent. Personally I would have liked something like they have in Newcastle called The Gate. It's a set of indoor bars restaurants and cinema.
Posted By: bazza77 Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 28th Mar 2012 2:33pm
I live in new brighton and its great whats going on,but New Brighton is a dump.I took the dog out today and the amount of rubbish on the beach and on the dips is unreal.All the money they spent cleaning out the marine lake and now its full of sand again.Its only been 18 months since they refilled the lake and already its silted up again by the fort.Every month they clean the sand off the path,what a waste of time its needs sorting out soon or there wont be a marine lake.
Posted By: Shakespeare Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 9th Apr 2012 4:07pm
We left England a number of years ago but had to pop back twice earlier this year..The second time back we brought my son and my dad with us and stayed in Travelodge right on the front in New Brighton..
We were all very impressed with the change, my dad who is 78 has seen alot of change over the years in New Brighton thought all the change was for the better..
Not one of us had any complaints from where we stayed and where we ate and we can't wait to come over again in the summer....
Posted By: jabber_Ish Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 9th Apr 2012 4:12pm
Originally Posted by bazza77
I live in new brighton and its great whats going on,but New Brighton is a dump.I took the dog out today and the amount of rubbish on the beach and on the dips is unreal.All the money they spent cleaning out the marine lake and now its full of sand again.Its only been 18 months since they refilled the lake and already its silted up again by the fort.Every month they clean the sand off the path,what a waste of time its needs sorting out soon or there wont be a marine lake.


not a lot you can do about sand drift though, its natural for it dry out and be blown.

as for rubbish on the beach, people need to clean up there act ! I agree its a disgrace, the council need to be on top of emptying the bins and generally cleaning up with more regularity. People need to make sure they dispose of there waste properly, i see far too many litter louts everywhere these days, have people no respect for their surorundings anymore frown
Posted By: NUMBERSIX Re: New Brighton - Phase 3? - 10th Aug 2012 10:35pm
Why on earth are we stuck with a marine lake filled with filthy water when we could have had a decent swimming pool.

The comment about the variable weather is absolute tosh as there are plenty of places across the uk that have heated outdoor pools, for example there is one in the middle of Derbyshire in Hathersage.

The leisure centre that never was and the lido no bigger than a duck pond to be come skating rink.
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