With evidence of human occupation in Wirral dating back to 7000BC, and more recently of Roman occupation about 70AD. prior to the Noresmen and Vikings.
It would be interesting to find out more about the Romans whilst they were here, how long they were here for and what made them withdraw etc. They certainly didn't come quietly and I wonder if many stayed behind, as I imagine the original native population would have been almost wiped out.

The Romans withdrew from the area because they were fed up of having their chariot hub-caps nicked.

Not the answer I expected Spellbinder..

If they were here for about 400 years, I can't understand how they would one day say, 'come on, we're going home now' because Britain would have been home for many by then and possibly they had inter-marriage with the Britons. Also, it is stated that a word square was found in the Roman Settlement of Manchester dated to the 2nd century.Inscription is an anagram of Paster Noster ,which means the Lord's Prayer, so maybe they brought Christianity to Britain, instead of hub-caps.

The romans left britain in the early 5th century AD due to europe being overun by barbarian tribes i.e visgoths, vandals, franks and the more well known huns. They left britain to fend for itself, while what remained of the army went to face the barbarians. In there absence britain was attacked by numerus saxon tribes i.e jutes and angles, the latter tribe is where england gets its name from (angleland. As for christianity. It was brought here by the romans around the 3rd or 4th century AD. The romans in wirral it it is believed had a port at meols as many artifacts have been found. I have found a link which i will post shortly.

You've kind of answered your own question here! The concept of the Romans packing up, going home and turning the light off on the way out is an antiquated idea. Many scholars now see the end of Roman Britain as a gradual decline as opposed to a dramatic collapse.

The problem lies in what we mean by the term 'Roman' - it encompasses so much and by the 4th century meant a hell of a lot more than someone from Rome, indeed the majority of Roman citizens would most never have heard of Rome! For instance, in the Confessions of St Patrick, we learn that Patrick thought of himself as Roman as anyone despite being someone from Northern Britain (most likely) and never stepping foot out of his own front door until his ventures into Ireland.

For Wirral, the first evidence for Roman interaction comes at least 100 years before the Claudian invasion of AD43. Numerous coins from Meols suggest trade with the Roman World at least 100 years before this which may perhaps be linked with the Cheshire salt trade. With the founding of Chester in approx AD78, Meols boomed as a trading centre, and it seems that Wirral may also have been home to craftsmen making distinct jewellery (known as the Wirral-type Brooch) and acting as a deep-water port for Chester.

Indications of further Roman settlement have been found in Irby where an Iron Age farmstead seems to have continued throughout the Roman period, and of course Leasowe Man (the oldest human remains found in Wirral) is of Roman date, though not necessarily a Roman!

Christianity was indeed a Roman introduction to Britain, but was at first no more than an eastern mystery cult to rival the numerous others such as those in honour of Bacchus, Mithras, Isis etc. Christianity first developed in towns (indeed, the term 'pagan' orignally meant someone who simply lived outside of a town) and so Chester is likely to have been an early Christian centre. The first British martyrs to be killed were called Julius and Aaron were meant to have been executed in Caerleon in Wales, but this is just as likely to have been in Chester which was also known as Caerleon (City of the Legions.

The most intriguing place-name in Wirral (and likely the oldest) is that of Landican which seems to represent a prWelsh rendering of Llan Tegan (Church enclosure of St Tegan) which would represent a very early post-Roman place-name and therefore suggestive of an early foundation church. Similarly the dedication of St. Hilary in Wallasey is incredibly rare and may point to an even earlier foundation of Christianity on the Island of the Britons (Wallas - British).

The Anglo-Saxon incursions into Britain in the 4-6th centuries forced Christian communities to the fringes of Britain, hence why our oldest Christian sites are found in Wales, Cornwall, Scotland, etc. Wirral sits firmly in this 'zone' and as such plays a part in this amazing story of an age that was anything but dark. Recent archaeological evidence is piecing some of these pictures back together so hopefully Wirral place in the Roman world will soon be able to be retold in more detail.

Just my 2 pence worth

try this link a little bit about the speculated port in meols. http://www.oldwirral.com/meols_setantiorum.html

Thanks for your replies Alexds and Archaeo. Much appreciated and very interesting.
I find the Romans and the history at that time really interesting. Unfortunately when doing a bit of research everything seems to get somewhat confusing(for myself). Your info is very clear and straight forward.
Learning that Leasowe Man is the only Roman skeleton to have been found in the Merseyside area, made me wonder if that would be related to the fact that in Rome, pre-Christianity,the Romans always cremated their dead. Which would also explain why there were never any skeletons found of the Gladiators etc.
With that in mind, our Leasowe Man must have met with an accident . I bet there are a few more of them buried in the river bed of the Dee !!
Another interesting bit of info which I recently learnt, was in the book of Acts.The last two chapters relate the journey of Paul, who had been imprisoned and was being transported back to Rome from Jerusalem. He was probably about 72yrs of age. They had a dreadful passage which is told by Luke and they were travelling with many more prisoners apart from others on an Egyptian ship. There were 276 onboard the ship, which would indicate they were pretty large, sea going vessels in those days. Plus the only navigation they used was the stars and if the weather was cloudy or bad, they got a bit lost. Amazing people and we think we are smart!!

I am off for a couple of days, so should you make anymore posts and don't get a reply, it's not that you are being ignored.

I grew up in Greasby and the Schools have a Roman Road running parrellel to its fields also I was always told the Copse woodland was a Roman Burial Ground any further info to clarify this??

And there was me thinking we were having an invasion of Italian chaps. Ah well!

The Roman road in Greasby has never been properly substantiated - just conjecture. Certainly no Roman burial ground I'm afraid.

googled this info



I am putting forward "Bridge End Farm" as the oldest in the Country. I
believe it was named after the wooden Roman Bridge which joined Birkenhead
Woodside to Wallasey. The Bridge remains were found in 1850 and are documented.
Presumably Bridge Street is associated with the former bridge

and
In 1834 a haul of Roman coins, some bearing the head of Antonius and others of Victorinus, was found by quarrymen working at the Earl of Shrewsbury’s stone quarry in Oxton (which is now part of the Arno Park). Whether or not the find is proof that the was a Roman settlement on Oxton Hill has not yet been be determined, but it was found in a prominent position, which commanded views of great distances and in all directions. Perhaps it is more likely that somebody chose this place to hide the coins because of its remoteness - we will never know. However, it is known that Storeton stone was highly valued and widely used by the Romans and this provides evidence from Chester that they were quarrying in Storeton around 50 AD. If that is the case, there is no reason to doubt that they also visited Oxton. Other than this most slender link with distant history, nothing else is known of Oxton until after the Norman Conquest.

Interesting info. Derekdwc and thanks.
Wonder where the Roman Coins ended up? Probably one of the National Museums in London, but wouldn't know what it would have been called then.There seems to have been much more effort into finding more about the Vikings on Wirral, rather than the Romans. That, I suppose could be due to Prof. Harding's interest in the Vikings.
I dare say there could be quite a lot more to find, 'lurking in the undergrowth somewhere'.

Granny, there's stacks of work done on Meols which was a massively important Roman port...check out Rob Philpott's work, he knows more about Roman Wirral than anyone.

Archaeo, thank you very much,, I shall follow this gentleman up.
Great!

No probs, he's a top guy actually. Much of his work is available in Birkenhead Library

Just wondering about how the Romans and Vikings in Wirral/Britain disposed of dead people in the towns and villages.
Cremation? or did they have special places where where they buried
their dead or just dug a hole anywhere.
Over the centuries of occupation there must have been thousands and if there was anything like a cemetary has any been found?
Not particularly talking about the rich and noble but the plebs

Derekdwc,
When I went to Rome, as the question raised was about Gladiators, one of the guides stated that there had never been any remains found of Gladiators.
Having listened to a programme since, that made a point of prior to Christianity, cremation was the only way of disposing of the bodies.

Depending on when Christianity came to Britain, would then lead us to believe that change didn't come immediately.

This is probably why there are Catacombs in Rome and other ancient cities. No doubt once the wealthy had converted, they would want a safe place of burial.

The last paragraph is my own bit of reasoning as I have not seen anything about that issue.

I am sure Archaeo could enlighten you further on your question.

Think of an army deployment to Afghanistan...mostly occasional patrols from a single base, probably similar with Roman activity on the Wirral. The main centre being Deva (Chester) from which no doubt patrols set forth, possibly settingup temporary presence on some routes into the Peninsular. This of course is a different scenario to the native (Brythonic) population being wiped out by massive numbers of invading Romans.