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Posted By: diggingdeeper New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 1:10am
Three air raid shelters were built in New Ferry Park to house 948 people between them. They have been covered up but were still extent. The Council had considered opening one of them up for school education programmes but this never came to fruition.

When I went there the other night on one of my routine re-visits, we discovered that the kids play area has now extended onto the air raid shelters, it was very dark but it looked like one had been flattened, and at least one of the others had been re-shaped to become some sort of pathway. Also some heavy machinery had been driven over the remaining shelters.

Here are some pictures of the shelters from last year.


Description: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters
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Description: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters
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Posted By: SUExx Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 6:38am
Well i never knew those hilly bits were air raid shelter, i remember when i was a child those hilly bits had forts on them to play in.
Posted By: Wheels Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 9:13am
Really? O remember playing I a pipe that was dug unto one of the mounds.
Posted By: SUExx Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 10:37am
Originally Posted by Wheels
Really? O remember playing I a pipe that was dug unto one of the mounds.



i remember that to
Posted By: chris7777 Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 12:45pm
i would love to see inside these shelters,i think they should open them up,no doubt my dad,nan & granddad sheltered there!
Posted By: Capt_America Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 4:44pm
Never knew they were there! Anyone any piccy's from inside?
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 6:06pm
Originally Posted by Wheels
Really? O remember playing I a pipe that was dug unto one of the mounds.


With an average of 316 people per shelter, they will have had vent pipes. Some of the concrete was visible when I was there last year - I don't think it is still visible but I haven't seen them in daylight recently.

I also am wondering if the "lumps" may have been just entrances leading down to subterranean shelters, the lumps looked a bit small for the number of people.

There is a signpost in the park somewhere, that mentioned/s the shelters (there's piccies of the sign somewhere on t'internet).

The shelters were open in the 1960s/70s.

There is/was a fourth smaller lump nearer the old play area but that was not a shelter - but may have been something else.
Posted By: chris7777 Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 7:09pm
i don't remember them ever being open, infact i don't remember ever seeing them, it was only a few years ago that i found they were there,i never knew untill then,i always thought those mounds were the excess soil from when the park was altered, i remember when it was the old park with the golf course and the blind garden.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 7:49pm
Here are two aerial photographs, one from 1971(ish) and one from 1997

From these I believe it shows that the entrance and ventpipes (possibly emergency exit as well) were at surface level, the shelters are probably subterranean.


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Posted By: scoops Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 8:00pm
Nice one DD smile
The one closest to the road is an unfortunate shape though wink raftl
Posted By: Trearan Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 9:33pm
It was New Ferry Regeneration Action Group who campaigned for the money that was supposed to be spent renovating the play area at Onslow Road 3 years ago to be used on more play equipment - but for older kids. Onslow Road residents did not want the play area reinstated so close to their homes, so the Council eventually agreed to let the money be spent in New Ferry Park.

In the discussions we had with the Council, although they said they were going to put the new equipment "between the air raid shelters", it was my understanding that the air raid shelters would not be disturbed. However, I now realise that I should have asked the question.

Since the work started, I have not been over to have a closer look at it, but I would be upset if the shelters have been demolished.

Indeed, I did put the possibility of opening up the shelters (for at least one occasion) onto the suggested plan for the refurbishment of the park which NFRAG drew up 2 years ago. However, nobody took me seriously and there were other far more pressing things in the park to get sorted.

According to older residents I have spoken to over the years, the shelters were still "exposed" in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and residents "played inside them" when they were children. Some time in the 1970s the council did indeed put some concrete pipes on them as play features for kids - this practice was quite common in the 1970s = cheap play things for kids were those big concrete drain pipes.

However, there are more pressing things happening in New Ferry tonight. The Great Eastern has been opened up for arsonists to go in and help themselves. See my posting elsewhere on this site. https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/392078.html#Post392078
Posted By: cookie Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 5th Mar 2010 10:38pm
my sisters and i used to play in those concrete pipes as we lived in school lane ! happy memories !!!
Posted By: Trearan Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 6th Mar 2010 1:00am
Coincidentally, for anyone who does not know, those air raid shelters were indeed needed during the WWII blitz! Luftwaffe bombs hit some houses near the Esplanade, and also fell onto a row of terraced houses in Egerton Road, New Ferry. The terrace had only been built 25 years or so previously. One couple who lived there were half way through paying their mortgage when their house was destroyed. They didn't have any home insurance in those days, so they still had to keep paying the mortgage after the war even though the house was gone. (A resident in the street told me this many years ago).

Garages were built where the houses once stood. These were demolished a few years ago and the new red-bricked houses stand on the site today.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 6th Mar 2010 8:35pm
Went there today, all three shelters are still there but the one nearest the side road has been interfered with and partly built on.
Posted By: Trearan Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 7th Mar 2010 11:51pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Went there today, all three shelters are still there but the one nearest the side road has been interfered with and partly built on.

Thanks for that. Didn't have time to go today - was busily chasing up people re impending demolition of the Great Eastern.

By the way, the second of your photos above, when hovering over it with the mouse, appears to be labelled "1997". I came to live in New Ferry in 1988, and I think the tarmac kickabout area had already been built on the site of the former bowling green at that time. So I think the photo is at least a decade earlier.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 8th Mar 2010 12:53am
Originally Posted by Trearan
By the way, the second of your photos above, when hovering over it with the mouse, appears to be labelled "1997". I came to live in New Ferry in 1988, and I think the tarmac kickabout area had already been built on the site of the former bowling green at that time. So I think the photo is at least a decade earlier.


The photo was supposed to be taken on 30th May 1997 - I will see what I can find.
Posted By: kaycee Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 8th Mar 2010 12:02pm
Re air raid shelters,Grove St school had its own shelter,in the 40s there was a grassed area in front of the building and the shelter was there.there was other bomb damage in New Ferry,when my family moved to Winstanley Rd in 1940/1, the area across the road where the flats are (Winstanley House?)had been bombed.Our house had been damaged and was repaired before we moved in.
Posted By: chris7777 Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 8th Mar 2010 2:04pm
I never knew Winstanley House was bombed! my Nan used to live there but not when the war was on it was years later.
Posted By: SUExx Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 8th Mar 2010 2:17pm
Originally Posted by kaycee
Re air raid shelters,Grove St school had its own shelter,in the 40s there was a grassed area in front of the building and the shelter was there.there was other bomb damage in New Ferry,when my family moved to Winstanley Rd in 1940/1, the area across the road where the flats are (Winstanley House?)had been bombed.Our house had been damaged and was repaired before we moved in.


I went to grove street, i never knew it had a shelter . Where do you mean exactly, there was a little grassed area with the railings round in front of the building, then the bigger area of grass also at the front of building were the sports day was held.
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Posted By: Trearan Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 9th Mar 2010 3:12pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Went there today, all three shelters are still there but the one nearest the side road has been interfered with and partly built on.

Was off work today and finally managed to have a look for myself. You are right, the shelters themselves remain untouched and are still there. The one nearest the kickabout area (former bowling green) has had the surface of the south facing slope disturbed, but I suspect only at topsoil level. There is no indication that the air raid structure itself has been damaged. From what I remember of it, its profile is still intact.

That's a relief!
Posted By: stacie Re: New Ferry Park Air Raid Shelters - 22nd Apr 2010 5:44pm
a new play area has been added to the park, not too sure if they are on top of the shelters, but they are on the hills . . .

My grandad was telling me when he played in the shelters, the entrance was always open (in times of war) him and his mates would wonder in for a look around and they would use the lantin at the entrance to light the way. there was one main entrance and then it split up into three, said it was good fun untill the warden found them!

He was also telling me of when a bomb exploaded in his road (ill have to ask him the name of the road) said it did a fair bit of damage and some lost their lives.

do we have any maps or plans of the shelters ?
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