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Posted By: Mark The Haymarket - 16th Mar 2008 2:44pm
The Haymarket (Big Market Building )

This was down beside the Land registry buildings are today.
Just to the left of the Queensway Tunnel Entrance.

Pictures Information anyone smile
Posted By: jonno40 Re: The Haymarket - 16th Mar 2008 3:01pm
There was a market on this site since 1835 when the then market was deystroyed by fire in 1974.The original clock from the old market is all that was saved and has been restored and is now in the new market
Posted By: jonno40 Re: The Haymarket - 16th Mar 2008 3:02pm
OLD MARKET /LAND REGISTRY SITE
Posted By: Mark Re: The Haymarket - 16th Mar 2008 3:11pm
cool thats the location wink
Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 30th Mar 2008 4:16pm
Hi. Jonno, that link's not working for me, so I don't know what it showed. Hope this doesn't duplicate it. The reason for this post is to say we mustn't confuse the Market Hall with the Haymarket. As far as I know, the Haymarket was always open-air & for doing exactly what the name implies; buying & selling hay. I remember the old market hall very well, built of cast iron & with a double arched glass roof, if I remember correctly. The map shows the relative locations.

Cheers, Chris.

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Posted By: Mark Re: The Haymarket - 30th Mar 2008 4:29pm
Nice one Chris wink

Humm hopefully the link will come back.

So Market Square = Click Me

And the "Market" = Click Me
Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 30th Mar 2008 5:37pm
This is my best estimate of the locations on today's street layout. This market was BIG. On Saturdays, there would be stalls on the market square. It was fun to be there & watch the sellers of crockery . They were very skilful & could balance a whole dinner service on their arms. At about 8pm, they would start their final spiel "Well, I'm not taking this lot back, buy it or I'll smash it." then they would throw down a few plates to break on the cobblestones. The people couldn't stand to see this & started buying stuff.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=53.392142,-3.015463&spn=0.001481,0.002886&t=h&z=18&msid=102226494235577172925.000449aacc62eeec6577e
Posted By: Mark Re: The Haymarket - 30th Mar 2008 5:39pm
Spot on happy

Would be good if any one had any stories about the place wink
Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 30th Mar 2008 7:08pm
I've got just a couple of pics I need to scan in. Will probably do it tomorrow.
Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 30th Mar 2008 7:20pm
Here's something interesting. The map I posted earlier was from 1911. Some time between then & the 1940's, when I remember the market, Market St.West, the bank, the Free Library & the other buildings disappeared. I'm absolutely sure that the market fronted onto Hamilton St. Some investigation is called for.
Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 31st Mar 2008 12:32pm
Here's a couple of pics of the market. In the tunnel entrance one, it's the big long building in the background. The other is one of the stalls.
I can still remember the smell of the place, especially the stall where we used to buy treacle toffee. It came in slabs & you broke it up at home with the toffee hammer. I've still got that hammer.

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Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 31st Mar 2008 12:52pm
Oh, & just in case you think I'm joking about the toffee hammer.




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Posted By: Mark Re: The Haymarket - 31st Mar 2008 5:10pm
ha ha ha quality chris, how old is that hammer now lol...

The picture inside the Market looks great, it almost looks
like an old railway station with the high roof etc..


This one needs a little explaining for me?

[Linked Image]
First it looks like one hell of a building,
but i'm confused about the tunnel, they moved that needle
thing with the light on it? Didn't they?

Is the camera angle from the entrance of the Tunnel?


Great Pics Chris, your a true Sherlock smile

Posted By: jonno40 Re: The Haymarket - 31st Mar 2008 5:22pm
Joseph Paxton designed the original market to the same but scaled down design as Crystal Palace. The next time you are in the new market you will notice that the aisles are named after famous people from Birkenheads past and there are plaques informing you of there roles in the towns development.Some of the names featured are ,Laird,Jackson and Paxton
Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 31st Mar 2008 6:51pm
Originally Posted by Mark
ha ha ha quality chris, how old is that hammer now lol...



Is the camera angle from the entrance of the Tunnel?






That hammer is at least 70 years old, probably much more.

As far as the pic is concerned, it's from Chester St. with the tunnel mouth to your right. Have a look in the Queensway book I sold you. Opposite Page 73 is a sketch which shows the tunnel entrance & the market hall.

Cheers, Chris.
Posted By: Mark Re: The Haymarket - 31st Mar 2008 8:05pm
< doh > wink
Posted By: bigpete Re: The Haymarket - 14th May 2009 11:18am
Originally Posted by Mark


This one needs a little explaining for me?

[Linked Image]
First it looks like one hell of a building,
but i'm confused about the tunnel, they moved that needle
thing with the light on it? Didn't they?
YUP - not sure may be at Liverpool Entrance
Is the camera angle from the entrance of the Tunnel?
Tis from Chester Street/New Chester Road


Great Pics Chris, your a true Sherlock smile

Posted By: bert1 Re: The Haymarket - 17th May 2009 2:53pm
Birkenhead Market 1848

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Posted By: topofthepops Re: The Haymarket - 17th May 2009 3:17pm
Originally Posted by bigpete
Originally Posted by Mark


This one needs a little explaining for me?

[Linked Image]
First it looks like one hell of a building,
but i'm confused about the tunnel, they moved that needle
thing with the light on it? Didn't they?
YUP - not sure may be at Liverpool Entrance
Is the camera angle from the entrance of the Tunnel?
Tis from Chester Street/New Chester Road


Great Pics Chris, your a true Sherlock smile



It is definatley the Birkenhead entrance. Same image on link below.

Queensway Mersey Tunnel souvenir album
Bikenhead entrance

Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: The Haymarket - 17th May 2009 3:34pm
There was an Obelisk at each end of the tunnel, the Birkenhead one was moved to just beside the A41 exit road from the tunnel, it only about 25 yards from being directly in line with the tunnel.
Posted By: chriskay Re: The Haymarket - 17th May 2009 4:12pm
Details of the lighting columns or obelisks.
I'm pretty sure that the one pictured here, at the Liverpool end, has been removed & almost certainly destroyed.

From "The Story of the Mersey Tunnel, Officially Named Queensway"

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Posted By: BandyCoot Re: The Haymarket - 31st Jul 2009 4:15pm
I remember one of the traders known as "Eli" and boy could that man sell stuff. Was actually there when he was selling some jumpers and as he held it up he saw there was only one arm on it. He knocked some money off the price and still sold it to a woman whose fellah only had one arm. Brilliant! He always had a huge crowd around him, as much for the entertainment as anything else. Wish I could remember more but I was only a youngster then.
Posted By: bert1 Re: The Haymarket - 31st Jul 2009 5:40pm
Eli, used to determine the size of a woman's bra by putting it on his head, never got that size wrong neither. It was like watching a free comedy show.
Posted By: kenisherwood Re: The Haymarket - 20th Jan 2011 4:32pm
I well remember the trader selling china and of cause Eli but that was all at the opposite end of the market from the Haymarket. The Haymarket was at the Conway Street end of Hamilton Street.If you can picture Hamilton Street Conway Street and Grange Road that would be the Haymarket Square.It all changed when the flyovers were built, that was when the Needle was moved. A good guide to the location of the market are the two arches at the entrance to the tunnel which are still there.
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