Recorded this the other night just watched it. GRRRH! Steam coming out my ears!!!

You got a video link of this Cools?

Or will they be a repeat of the programme?

No sorry Snowy ,you're talking to me now. Video link eh....way beyond my capabilities that. It is on next week , another lot of cheats. It's channel 5 you may have guessed that allready. I know people will say oh they do sensationalism TV but we all know that what they are reporting goes on, makes me so mad!!

This one Cools?
I got it from utube.
Yep this sort of thing does go on. [youtube]v=a6fKUAhLSeo[/youtube]

Yep that's the one Snowy X

In every bit of life there are cheats, in reality the benefit cheats cost us very little, but the government like to make a big noise about it and its cheap news for the media to go to town on.

The government use it to "clamp down" which normally means cutting benefits for genuine claimants.

Is the government responsible for our weather DD, they seem to get the blame for everything else.

http://www.labourleft.co.uk/a-bumper-list-of-the-tories-100-greatest-failures-since-2010/

Outdated but hey ho.....

It winds me up, they always seem to point the finger at Merseyside.

The £100,000000 tax payers money, could go to the NHS couldn't it ? Help stop the moaners about that.

We are talking benefit CHEATS, and not simply benefits or what the governments do or don't do.

Low life !

The cheating might not be as widespread as the programme would have you believe (but noting that it was the cheats themselves that were saying how all their contemporaries were 'at' it) , but that doesnt mean it should be ignored -- You ignore/dismiss it as irrelevant , and surely it then becomes more and more 'acceptable' so more perhaps previously reticent folk 'have a go' and so on. The swindled amounts although not huge, all add up, and I think its right that these people are exposed .

Having said that, Im more fuming about the bigger fish who are swindling the country - the companies evading taxes ,claiming grants wrongly etc - the big scale stuff. Id love major resources be put into trying to stop this as this really would be serious money which could be redirected to NHS or whatever . As the Govt trying to catch the little fish is probably not cost effective, Im quite happy for TV programs to play their part in exposing them , regardless of their motives . Im all for making cheats feel more and more uncomfortable about being watched, found out, caught. Bring it on.

Catch 22. Arrest them shove em in jail and it will cost the taxpayer far more per week than the benefits they are cheating.

Maybe, but it would feel good.

It doesn't work like that, to attempt to find these cheats and prosecute them would cost more than £100m so we would lose money not gain it, if you imprisoned them it would cost even more!

£100m represents 0.06% of the welfare budget a level of unaccounted loss that even the most finicky of banks would be proud of. I believe the figure for departmental mistakes in welfare payments is over 50 times that figure.

what about all the money the mp's are fiddling of the tax payers?totally agree benefit cheats should be caught but isn't it just taking the spotlight from all the rich con artists?

Theres plenty of media scope for them ALL to be got at. I dont think highlighting one type takes away from the other . They all get a pop taken at them from time to time.

Not much interested how it works or doesn't work. If someone commits a crime, they are arrested and given the penalties . Your example could be used to exclude many from being brought to account. Are you indicating that crimes other than murder or battery should be allowed to be excluded because the cost of prosecuting costs more than the crime?

Neither does it matter who else is doing wrong and getting away with it, so far. Two wrongs never made a right and to use that ideology as an excuse for these people who deliberately fake their abilities is condoning what they do. It's a criminal act and I find certain ideas on this completely ludicrous.

If they were illegal immigrants doing the same thing, people wouldn't be quite so convinced that it's an ok sort of thing.

The majority of crimes and offences are ignored - especially for attempts to burgle an odd numbered house apparently.

It doesn't make it right or even indicate its acceptable, it just isn't cost effective nor in the public's interest to investigate and prosecute everything.

To find all benefit cheats you would have to investigate every single person that claims benefits, this would need to include covert surveillance to identify lifestyle. It would certainly eliminate unemployment with the amount of investigators required.

There are cases being dealt with, just a matter of time. Fraud is a serious offence ,particularly against the state. Execution probably fits the crime in other countries.


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"Fraud is buried, no one wants to admit it’s going on, and because no one’s
really taken hold of it, it’s grown to a point where it’s out of control."
- Westminster Fraud Czar
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6 Aug 2015
Light sentence for £32k benefit thief

A benefits cheat has been forced to borrow more than £32,000 from family and friends to pay off money she fraudulently claimed, a court heard.

Tracy Mullins, from Bacup, conned the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) out of the sum after failing to declare she was living with her partner over a six-year period. She enjoyed trips to the Dominican Republic, Jamaica and Tenerife.

At this week’s sentencing the mum-of-two was given an eight-month jail term, suspended for two years, and ordered to pay £600 costs.

Burnley Crown Court heard that she has now repaid all the money after borrowing sums of between £2,000 and £10,000 each from family and friends.

Nick Flanaghan, prosecuting, told the court that she had been claiming income support from 2004 to 2012 on the basis of her illness, inability to work and having no partner in the house. But the court heard that she started living with her partner Steven Mullins from 2006 onwards and failed to inform the DWP.

An investigation later unearthed documents showing the two were living together in the same house, Mr Mullins had a television licence and had given the address to the Land Registry when buying other properties.

Mr Flanagan told the court that Tracy Mullins had owned the house since 2006 after paying £36,000 with no mortgage ‘despite having been in receipt of means-tested benefits for some time’.

The court heard that a bank account and passports were also investigated and revealed a £1,300 trip to Tenerife in 2012 and further trips to Jamaica in 2010 and the Dominican Republic in 2012. Mullins was interviewed twice by police following her arrest in January 2014 and initially denied the offences.

Mullins pleaded guilty to two counts of dishonestly failing to notify the DWP of a change in circumstances affecting her entitlement to benefits including income support and one count of dishonestly failing to disclose information.

Keith Harrison, defending, said: “She has borrowed money from at least five family members or close associates so she is not escaping scot-free.”

Judge Andrew Woolman said: “All of the money has been repaid and there are not many benefit fraud cases where that can be said.”

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[youtube]v=yaVYp_RhRaE[/youtube] Here is another video.

I know we have MPs fiddling the system, the expense scandal showed us that. Yes keep on exposing them as well. These scumbag benefit cheats though so brazen and conniving. Using dead babies identitys to scrounge more money,absolutley sickening. They are just laughing and putting two fingers up to hardworking people who pay their taxes to pay these wastrels . I say get more fraud squads on the streets and when found out give em nothing but just vouchers for food and utilities. That's being generous, they'd get nothing in other countries.

Perhaps we should have local cheat exposing posses for the small stuff. (TIC) Take the pressure off the Govt fraud dept.It would work like bounty hunting .We could start with our local MP's and work down. Honest/hardworking folk are so riled by the injustice of cheating , they would probably do it for next to nothing. Members could then choose which good cause, the saved amounts could go to. Cools, Granny - you wanna be in my posse? NB. TIC (before I get a virtual lashing lol)

I think they would outwit us Venice, we don't think like they do.i do like your fraud posse idea though. Maybe the ones that get caught should become the hunters and before they get any legal benefits again would have to reveal all the scams and tricks that go on. Put them to work!

This is why the government is clamping down on tax credits & child benefits because of people like this

....and that Star, is precisely the reason they are 'low life'. They cannot see that their actions affect so many others and apart from being crooks, they have no regard for anyone else but themselves.