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Posted By: Suzie Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 12:04am
Hi All, not sure if this is the right place to post but am sure someone will help!
Early hours of Sunday 20th Sept a single male threw a full petrol can as a mo!otov cocktail onto my daughters car.This car was parked on our drive in front of our house and next to a gas meter! The car was engulfed in flames the fire being ferocious enough to implode the windscreen and to crack double glazed Windows! Had our dog not alerted us to the imminent danger my two teens and their friend along with myself and a visiting friend would have perished. The charge if anyone is brought to boot will be arson with intent to endanger life! Please please ensure you have security lights and if possible CCTV cameras on your property we would not be in this situation had we found time and installed the camera we had bought! This time no one apart from the dog was hurt...next time ...well it doesn't bare thinking about! Stay safe folks.BTW this happened in the Noctorum area!.
Posted By: cools Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 6:56am
Omg! That must have been terrifying Suzie and so so bad. Thank god no-one was hurt. Had your daughter had a gripe with someone or a bad relationship with a man, or was it a random act. So glad you all ok.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 7:22am
I'd suggest checking the cctv at the local gas stations now if I were you.
Lads probably on camera filling the can up in the area.
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 1:57pm
sounds like a targeted attack rather than a random one. naffed off neighbour?
Posted By: ludwigvan Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 2:04pm
What happened to the dog?
Posted By: Suzie Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 11:02pm
Thanks Cools...investigation ongoing.
Posted By: Suzie Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 11:05pm
Police checking local CCTV but only those in the vicinity..and awaiting forensics..thanks for input ..
Posted By: Suzie Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 21st Sep 2015 11:17pm
Update...dog has been treated by vet he has burns to his nose and snout but nothing serious.
No disputes with neighbours,no ex's,no crazies, no feuds.
Thoughts are on the lines of.. mistaken identity, a prank that went wrong, car is with forensics as is the petrol can or should I say what's left of them ..CCTV being reviewed from a number of sources.
Fire services have been amazing never needed them before but they have gone beyond what I had expected. Police are stretched to the limit yet managed to respond within minutes very reassuring.
Thanks for all your replies and suggestions. Now that I am calmer I cannot stress enough the need for security and fire alarms...on yes and a very heroic family pampered pooch!.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 22nd Sep 2015 12:13am
This is getting beyond ridiculous, loads of kids that have got feral over the school holidays but its getting more serious and more frequent than in the past - our "civilisation" is going backwards.

Everyone I talk to from all over the Wirral has heard of attacks on vehicles recently and some on property as well.

All I can say is that any and all anti-social behaviour or crime should be reported to the police, the police budgets are based on the amount of reported crime, the less its reported the less police we will have.
Posted By: keving Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 22nd Sep 2015 5:08pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
This is getting beyond ridiculous, loads of kids that have got feral over the school holidays but its getting more serious and more frequent than in the past - our "civilisation" is going backwards.

Everyone I talk to from all over the Wirral has heard of attacks on vehicles recently and some on property as well.


Had my car keyed during the summer holidays, over 3 panels. Feral kids suspected.
Posted By: Slinky Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 23rd Sep 2015 9:42am
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Posted By: dustymclean Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 23rd Sep 2015 10:03am
Last Friday night about midnight near Townfield school a thoroughly decent family man was assaulted and robbed of his wallet watch and glasses, the glasses were later thrown away.He was also beaten with cans and kicked while on the ground.He is now off work his wife has just been made redundant and family and friends are distressed.I myself feel physically sick to think this could happen to such a decent man.To rob for gain is one thing, "What was the beating for?"Take care folks.
Posted By: ludwigvan Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 23rd Sep 2015 10:16am
Originally Posted by dustymclean
Last Friday night about midnight near Townfield school a thoroughly decent family man was assaulted and robbed of his wallet watch and glasses, the glasses were later thrown away.He was also beaten with cans and kicked while on the ground.He is now off work his wife has just been made redundant and family and friends are distressed.I myself feel physically sick to think this could happen to such a decent man.To rob for gain is one thing, "What was the beating for?"Take care folks.
Is it time to form vigilante groups to reclaim our streets from the feral yobs who can attack people and property with seeming impunity?
Posted By: snowhite Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 23rd Sep 2015 10:48am
Might as well Ludi. The police never do anything about these thugs.... too busy eating doughnuts and writing in there notepad.
Posted By: dustymclean Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 23rd Sep 2015 11:02am
The trouble with vigilante groups is they can morph into a worse kind of scenario than they were created to combat.I appreciate your logic and your thinking. I am so full of anger at the moment decisions and a rational point of view may be distorted.A friend of mine used to say I had reverted to "type" when in a situation that required a lets say, physical response.We should not have to.
Posted By: dustymclean Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 23rd Sep 2015 11:40am
When I see a thug with a list of previous up in court getting put back on the street until next time, I see the police as job done several times over.The system lets us down with a vengeance, handing out justice with a smile.If this was a game of pin the tail on the donkey it would never end.
Posted By: snowhite Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 23rd Sep 2015 2:00pm
Originally Posted by dustymclean
When I see a thug with a list of previous up in court getting put back on the street until next time, I see the police as job done several times over.The system lets us down with a vengeance, handing out justice with a smile.If this was a game of pin the tail on the donkey it would never end.
The ... must like jail for them to re-offend
The law needs to toughen up .
Send them to a boot camp.
Posted By: granny Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 24th Sep 2015 8:05am
Originally Posted by Suzie
Hi All, not sure if this is the right place to post but am sure someone will help!
Early hours of Sunday 20th Sept a single male threw a full petrol can as a mo!otov cocktail onto my daughters car.This car was parked on our drive in front of our house and next to a gas meter! The car was engulfed in flames the fire being ferocious enough to implode the windscreen and to crack double glazed Windows! Had our dog not alerted us to the imminent danger my two teens and their friend along with myself and a visiting friend would have perished. The charge if anyone is brought to boot will be arson with intent to endanger life! Please please ensure you have security lights and if possible CCTV cameras on your property we would not be in this situation had we found time and installed the camera we had bought! This time no one apart from the dog was hurt...next time ...well it doesn't bare thinking about! Stay safe folks.BTW this happened in the Noctorum area!.


I doubt security cameras would have stopped the incident. It would have been recorded, but not stopped it. I really thought this would have been reported somewhere, such as Wirral Globe, but no, not a sign. How very strange, as you would think such a dreadful incident as this, would be released by the police as an awareness exercise.
There again, we can't believe all we read in the papers, can we ??
Posted By: Suzie Re: Molotov cocktail.. - 24th Sep 2015 11:38pm
Originally Posted by granny


I doubt security cameras would have stopped the incident. It would have been recorded, but not stopped it. I really thought this would have been reported somewhere, such as Wirral Globe, but no, not a sign. How very strange, as you would think such a dreadful incident as this, would be released by the police as an awareness exercise.
There again, we can't believe all we read in the papers, can we ??


It's not been in any local papers not been reported and to be honest I'm happy it hasn't we have enough "tourists" coming to take a peek at the aftermath..
There are a number of possibilities as to why, none of which without CCTV to paint the picture can be anything other than conjecture.. There has been no further incidents. This leads one to wonder...we may never know and that means we live in fear of the possibility of another attack!
We are not drug takers/dealers. We do not owe money, the kids work hard two ex Army one nurse one fitter one graduate one in uni and youngest in college. Quiet boring unassuming family no problems before then this...
The CCTV although not a prevention in itself it does afford corroboratory evidence which until you find yourself in this situation ( I Sincerely hope you never are) you'd never think you would need it!
It should also be noted that during Sunday 20th there were I believe 7 arson incidents between Wirral and Liverpool in a 24 hour period..
I assure you this did happen I have the debris on my drive and tar like substances on my doorstep which is murder to get off!
Suzie.
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