Yes what started this thread was a For Sale of a ZX Spectrum.. Can any of you people on here remember them.. Christ i did i had the +2A version of the spectrum with the Great 64KB of ram or Drive M: for which you used for dumping programs youve just typed in for later saving to Tape cause if you switched it off VAM it wiped it clean.. Anyhow what i started this for is to remember the days when Internet was just a Acoustic Coupler connected to a Bulitin Board System where you couldnt do much but read alot of txt and download a few Role playing games which sometimes you could actually play online.. So come on people whats your fave memory of this era of computing.. I'll reply with more soon..

I have two memories that stick, one is of long nights, huge phone bills and wasted time downloading data from the local BBS.... only to find out a year down the line that the guy who ran it only lived a few doors down from me.

The other was Yellow Pages online, one of the VERY first to do it, or rather, one of the first not to hide their number very well and to let you have full access to the system, allowing you to update, add and replace numbers with whatever you wanted...

In 1977 I had the Sinlair MK14 with the luxury of 256 BYTES of RAM, fantastic little machine, amazing what you could get it to do, programmed in machine code - you had to do the assembly language to machine code yourself.

Likewise a couple of years after this I was using the Bulletin Boards and even ordering electronically from Maplin and Display Electronics (Distel). Maplin had an amazing contract with the Royal Mail with dedicated aircraft to distribute quickly. I used to order things in the evening and they would pop through the letterbox next morning before going to work.

[Yorkshire accent] You tell the kids these days and they won't believe you!

i've had my amiga 500 since 1987 and i'm still using it to this very day as my main computer. i've also got an atari ST 520 sitting somewhere as well as a sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, Commodore 64, Amiga CD32 and IBM PC 5150.

they were all good for the time but as soon as the 90's began drawing to a close we got a load of crap such as Windows ME, CE, Mac Anniversary, AOL.

we had no internet so we relied on magazines which were excellent back in the day because not only would they have useful info they also came with demo or full software suites for free. if you were into the Amiga cracking scene they used to love showing off what they had done to someones latest and greatest protection with the ST Group.

The Demoscene was also started in the 80's on the Commodore 64 And ZX Spectrum where a group would write assembly code to create amazing visuals and audio with strict limitations with hardware (such as writing an entire 10 min demo in under 114kb of ram space)and introduced many ways of creating 3d polygons and DSP Programming.

A few machines I still have from that era:-

Ohio Superboard II - now modified out of existence compared to its original spec.

Apple IIc (a minature Apple IIe)

Amstrad PPC640, a very early laptop/portable computer.

A CP/M machine based loosely on Kemitron and Interak computers, both local companies. This was my first disk based system having 8" floppy drives.

I think I may also still have my first two WINDOWS machine's motherboards which were a 12MHz Intel 286 and a 25MHz 386DX. Though I did have a couple of 8086 machines but only with MSDOS/PCDOS on board.

eek! I remember that, also getting my first serial modem and subscribing to Compuserve, if I remember correctly you had to pay for individual rooms of information..



Ouch ! Yep I remember those phone bills... Do you remember when Freeserve changed al the rules, and when you had to wait for ages to get an internet connection?



That was luxury... I'm sure my ZX81 came with 1k RAM installed..



I remember the demo's well. Infact companies were always advertising to sell these demo's and other public domain stuff. I used to buy load's of them at computer fairs (remember them?) and marvel at my Amiga 500 as the chrome ball rolled around the screen.

Thanks guy's, this thread brought back many fond memories....Ah! The good old days...

I had a Sinclair ZX 81 which just had enough memory to programme in three quarters of a sine wave (displayed on the blocky led display) but I thought it was wonderful!

Ouch ! Yep I remember those phone bills... Do you remember when Freeserve changed al the rules, and when you had to wait for ages to get an internet connection?

I joined FREESERVE on the first day they started out, saved me hundreds of pounds.
Before that I was with WHICH online (and before that UKONLINE) where you had to pay to phone in to them, and then pay for how data you looked at or downloaded.



That was luxury... I'm sure my ZX81 came with 1k RAM installed..

1K (KiloByte) is 1024Bytes, so the ZX81 actually had FOUR TIMES more memory than the MK14, although still tring to remember how much the ZX80 had, sure that was only 256Bytes

I have fond memories of the BBC (which was excellent for playing racing car games) and the ITT 2020 (a proper computer) which was good for Space Invaders

Wasn't freeserve on an 0845 number. I joined screaming.net/locatel whose internet was totally free (no fees, no call charges).

Freeserve was initially just for Dixons/Curry's/PCWorld PCs but opened up later, trying to find out when it was generally available.

Screaming.net/localtel started April 1999, freeserve started Sep 1998.

Screaming.net/Localtel were losing money very fast, but their marketing stratedgy was to build a customer base ready for Broadband when they would recoup their money. Eventually they got taken over by WorldOnline and then Tiscali.

I still have my screaming.net dial up account and this is still my primary routing for my emails, all other emails are redirected through this account and I pick it up on POP3 through broadband.

It was on an 0845 number, but remember that up until that point (which was only 12 years ago) we'd been paying a monthly subscription to your service provider for an internet connection, plus your phone call to their "local" server, and then you had to pay for the amount of data you downloaded as well, it all added up

The original Freeserve concept was called Channel 6, between Planet Online and Packard Bell, but PB pulled out so Dixons/PC World joined them instead. Dixons etc used to sell PB's so that is how they got into it and why the Channel 6 idea was just meant to be for PC's bought from the Dixons Group.

Dixons gave away the Freeserve CD's (for free), which you then installed into your Windows 98 PC, and it instantly took over EVERYTHING, putting its logo into IE the lot, took a few weeks before everyone realised that as long as you signed up for it online you didn't actually need their software, and to visit the Freeserve Home Page everytime you logged on

Freeserve is still about though, it was bought out by Wanadoo and is now Orange Broadband, so the legacy lives on

Wow the days of the 56k modem and `Welcome to AOL` on my IBM 386 With 256mb ram, 500mb hard drive and my ultra cool Voodoo 3dfx card running games like quake, doom and unreal lol

I had the Amiga 500, or was it 1200?

Use to love playing Rock star ate my hampster

500 big, then slim 600 then 1200 was it?

56K, you're joking, started off with 300 Baud modems, then V21 which was asymetrical 1200/75 baud, then V22 (1200/1200), V22bis (2400/2400), V32 (9600) and V42bis

I still have quite a few of these modems around, will dig them out sometime and do some photos. I also have the receipt for my first V32/V42bis modem, I got substantial discount for buying two, they were £289 each in 1992.

Then there were the rtty days before that at 45.5 baud, 90 baud and 100 baud ..... thank god things got faster.

So how long to download an album?

I first used the 'internet' in 1992 on BBS boards on an Atari ST with a 1200 baud modem I took from college (they no longer used them). Downloaded games onto floppys, seem to remember my mum going ballistic as it wasn't local rate and cost a fortune. Using this in the late 80's was 52p per minute with most providers (Pipex were going then I think). Can you imagine that now!
Did some gfx for demogroup in the early 90's, did loads of stuff in PD, but never really saw much action beyond that, I still have some stuff on Amiga emulator.
Never really used consoles, only ever had the typey style computers. I don't really miss most of the old days to be honest, but miss the simplicity of it all, I can't handle all the shite gadgetry and geek bandwagon jumping just because they've got an IPhone. Nowadays the kids think they're 'veterans' if they had a Dreamcast.

Best memory is just loading and playing tape games on Amstrad CPC and spending/wasting hours and hours on DPaint on Amiga.

how fast was windows 3.1,ran really fast on my little 386 pc,still got it somewhere.

I think I'd be sick if I had to use that again! Remember when it loaded DOS and you had to type 'WIN' to run it.

Or >nul all the commands in autoexec.bat and just echo Please wait.. or Starting Windows 3.1 and use the option Win /B which didnt load the graphic.. Great memories guys Any more!!!

Do you remember when you could buy a co-processor to help your 286 & 386 along with floating point arithmetic?

Oh yeah, sent thousands on an SX25 and then paid extra a few weeks later for the latest DX upgrade... Worst thing, I still have it, I just refuse point blank to throw it away, then again still have a ZX81 sat on my desk in work. I think I should start to clear stuff out.

Yup i had a 486 which did it.. Compaq model SX25 i even got Windows 95 on this bad boy after copying every disk to the hardisk to install it instead of off the floppy still it took nearly an hour.. Compared know when you can install it on the likes of Virtual PC which takes about 10 minutes lol.. Great.. Anyone remember collecting Computer mags i think i still got this bug for the Disks they have.. Then hunting around for cracks online so you didnt have to pay hahaha

i remember at the time i was using a spectrum buying a magazine and it had a programn printed over about six pages,took me hours and hours to type it up and i got a silly car driving across the screen,i thought it was great at the time

lol they where good... Untill

Syntax Error at 400
or
Mistake at 130

etc you get the picture haha.. Or the worst one of all.. Youve typed it all up (well you think you have) and you get some sort of crazy text all over the screen and it does nothing and you have to start all over again.. OR the worst start of the 1990s when those meters came in to play the electric ones and the electric goes and your half way through typing in a program!!!! ARGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah! Magazines...
I can remember having to buy the "floppy" version because my IBM 386 (with co-pro) didn't have a CD ROM drive

Also remember using my first PIM, it was called "Time & Chaos" I think... Wonder if it's still going

eek! Also my Epsom colour dot matrix printer (with silent mode), complete with the multi coloured ribbon..

I'd happily use a modem today just for that sound. EEEEEE-EEEEE!
I'd also use a dot matrix, again for the sound, and not having to buy toner cartridges (which is more expensive than the market value of blood).

I can remember trading in my Commodore 64 c/w tape drive & external 5.25 floppy drive for an Amiga 500, then shelling out another £150 for the memory expansion with the little on/off switch on the side of the computer.
Many happy memories showing off my new kit to mates who opted for the Atari ST.. Apparently, so they kept telling me, theirs was good for creating music or something..
Not a patch on my Amiga tho'

Still got a Spectrum in Rm 101 and a load of tapes.
Got a few of my mates started on puters and they have all overtaken me now. The Amiga was great, used it for all sorts of work related stuff and the kids got into it as well, or at least the girls did, my old boy couldn't be arsed and still can't. Remember though that at least with DOS you told the computer what to do and not the other way round as it is now. My puter takes charge and that's me redundant until its finished its stuff.

I remember my old man spending hours & hours building me a DIY puter only for it not to work at all. Ended up going to PC World....THAT is the real reason I can't be arsed!