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Posted By: woofie New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 9:02am
hiI am looking to buy a modern 30" tv in the next few weeks, as my ancient Tv has give up the ghost and i`m now without anything to watch! But i`m confused about LED & LCD. Can anyone please explain in layman's terms what the pro`s and con`s are of these type. All i know is liquid crystal display & light emitting diode. Any clear advice would be appreciated before i commit to buying one. Hoping to spend about £300 or less if possible! Thanks all.
Posted By: Geekus Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 11:21am
You might find the following link helpful. It's pretty easy to follow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_display
Posted By: Salmon Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 11:37am
That link pretty well sums it up, we were struggling a couple of months back for the same reasons.Confusion over LED,LCD and in the end decided we would not notice the difference anyway so got a nice Sharp 32 inch from Tesco Direct for £227.50 and collected it from Bidston Moss no dely. charge.Very pleased with it indeed
Posted By: KevinFinity Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 11:40am
In a nutshell, if you just want a decent tv to watch at a cost effective price go for an LCD one. Anything else is just marketing guff to con you to pay more or its for people who are well into their home cinema equipment and want all the bells and whistles and will pay mega bucks to have it.
Posted By: woofie Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 11:45am
Thanks Geekus, but after trying to understand that,it went in my eyes & out my ears as pure gobble-de-gook! Basically need to know the best for a Technophobe like me, to use with my Dvd recorder. I don`t really need one that comes with lots of whistles and bells. A channel button & on/off switch is about all i can get my noggin to fathom out!
Posted By: Geekus Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 11:57am
Lol! You'll be lucky to find one like that! TV's seem to change every couple of months, what with 3D TV and Internet Television.

Even DVD recorders are becoming a bit obsolete now.

If you've got an Argos catalogue they have an easy to understand guide on the page at the front of the TV/Home Entertainment section. You could have a read of that even if you don't intend buying one from there.

Just make sure the telly you get has enough scart sockets for you to connect your DVD recorder as well as anything else you might need to connect.



Posted By: woofie Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 12:37pm
Thanks everyone for the advice. Looks like a LCD is the way to go for me. Technology is going way to fast for me Geekus. Where i come from we`re still amazed by the wheel and quite often i find myself stareing in puzzlement at those silver flying things in the clouds!
Posted By: little_pob Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 2:04pm
In a nutshell: LCD and LED TVs, currently, both have the same type of panel (i.e. an LCD screen). The difference is in the "backlight".

On an LCD TV the backlight is 2 or 4 cold cathode fluorescent lamps placed around the outside of the screen (or at 2 opposite sides if only 2 used). On an LED TV the backlight is made of LEDs around the whole of the edge of the screen.

Because they take up less room, LED backlit TVs are generally thinner than CCFL backlit TVs, even if using the same panel. LEDs use less power than CCFLs. Also LED TVs are supposed to have "black levels" closer to those of a plasma screen.

In the future true LED screens will become available. These will use OLEDs (Organic Light Emitting Diodes), and won't need any sort of back light.
Posted By: woofie Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 2:40pm
Thanks lil pob. I think that description made things a little easier for my brain cell to bounce around off. Now it just depends on what is the best deal for each type and judging by the prices i`ve just looked at, i`m not gonna get much for around £3oo, so i`ll save for 6 months and should get a fairly good one for £600. Plenty of time to catch up on all my unread books now!
Posted By: MattLFC Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 4:06pm
At the end of the day, SED failed to make it to market, so the best technology is still Plasma, period (and yes I admit that despite this, I have an ECCFL LCD lol).

smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 6:11pm
Lol raftl plasmas are crap one of the worst inventions. Led is the way to go wink
Posted By: MattLFC Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 6:22pm
Sorry, but don't chat shit mate, you find me a flat screen TV (that actually made it to mass-market) with a better picture than a Pioneer Kuro... nope, not going to happen.

And for the uneducated, the current line Panasonic Neo PDP's incorporate all the Kuro IP since Matsushita purchased Pioneer's PDP division.

LCD has never been the best at anything, it's come one leaps and bounds over the past few years, but inherent technological limitations prevent the best LCD's from be able to compete with the best Plasma's.

Btw, LED isn't a screen technology in the current world mate as such, it's LED LCD - which is nothing more than a type of backlight - in a bid to "try" and compete with Plasma's black levels. OLED technology are still unsuitable for production large-screen devices. I still have faith SED will make it eventually - SED simply blows away the current crop of technologies, and is more akin to Plasma than LCD.
Posted By: Geekus Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 6:46pm
Originally Posted by woofie
...judging by the prices i`ve just looked at, i`m not gonna get much for around £3oo, so i`ll save for 6 months and should get a fairly good one for £600. Plenty of time to catch up on all my unread books now!


If you're just after something basic, you can get a Toshiba Full HD 32" LED TV for under £350 from outlets like Dixons, but shop around. I dare say there will be offers on, particularly nearer Easter.

Plasma is great for bigger screens but as woofie was only interested in something around 30 inches, he's probably best sticking with LED. He could get something cheaper than the Toshiba one (maybe even with built in DVD player) but some brands are worth paying a bit extra for.
Posted By: MattLFC Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 6:50pm
Richer Sounds is a must, for both price matching (they will match online retailers) and their Supercare 5 year warranties (just 10% of the value of the TV). Visit the Chester branch, they tend to be very helpful in finding you the right television, and generally know their stuff. They are usually quite willing to try different sources on their display TV's, so you can compare different options.

Full HD on a 32" is nigh on pointless, so don't worry too much about that, 720p will be fine; anything extra is a bonus. You should be able to pick up a goodun for around the £300 mark; spending £600 won't give you £300 worth of better TV.
Posted By: Raven61 Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 7:15pm
Totally agree with Mattlfc, I bought a 42" Panasonic plasma just after xmas & it's great quality. I was a bit wary after reading that plasmas tend to show reflections on the screen as mine faces the window and my old CRT used to suffer with this problem but the picture is sound.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 7:17pm
When I say one of the worst inventions I mean it for reliability, not who has the better picture, Plasma over heat works overtime and are crap end of. smile
Posted By: paulieg Re: New type television info wanted - 18th Feb 2012 8:47pm
Originally Posted by _Jase_
When I say one of the worst inventions I mean it for reliability, not who has the better picture, Plasma over heat works overtime and are crap end of. smile


We have a Samsung plasma in work in our break room and it's been in constantly on for 7 years now and hasn't missed a beat. The picture quality is still spot on aswell
Posted By: AX_125 Re: New type television info wanted - 19th Feb 2012 10:15am
My dad had a plasma which lasted about 3 years, traded it in against a sony lcd and hasn't looked back
Posted By: dannyp13 Re: New type television info wanted - 26th Mar 2012 9:09pm
jase.

sorry fella but how on earth can you say plasmas are crap????

the drivers in a plasma are perfect for fast moving images. something and lcd isnt renowned for. and as for black depth....

crap not

sorry imho

danny
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New type television info wanted - 26th Mar 2012 9:15pm
As I said above ther crap for reliability >>NOT<< for picture. smile
Posted By: dannyp13 Re: New type television info wanted - 29th Mar 2012 6:58pm
ive had my 2008 flagship model for 4 strong years and ive got sq. eyes... maybe you bought cheap plasma models in past and were stung.... buy cheap buy twice....?????

danny
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New type television info wanted - 29th Mar 2012 7:11pm
Wrong again. I don't do cheap, also I read up on things before I buy that's why I chose not to have a plasma, as the read up on them all were bad, also the amount I see dumped in alleyways smirk
Posted By: dannyp13 Re: New type television info wanted - 29th Mar 2012 7:13pm
expand please?????

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