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Posted By: Marka Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 3rd Jun 2012 4:53pm
Hi
Yesterday we purchased a clock with a plaque on it giving us some information about a previous owner and I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of more information on it.

The plaque says it was presented to Mr & Mrs Thornton as a token of esteem by the Liverpool & Birkenhead staff of the GWR on his retirement after 50 years service Dec 1929.

Any suggestions how to find out some more about him and how the clock ended up at a Sea Cadets Jubilee Fete?

Cxx
Posted By: kenmo52 Re: Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 3rd Jun 2012 7:02pm
Hi Marka
I found the following on Ancestry/National Archives.

Name : John Thornton
Age: 28
Birth Date: 1 Sep 1865
Residence Date: Apr 1894
Station: Birkenhead
Company: Great Western

Regards kenmo52
Posted By: kenmo52 Re: Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 3rd Jun 2012 7:13pm
Also found him on the 1911 census on Ancestry.
Foreman shunter he lived at 38 Brook Street Birkenhead, he was married with 3 daughters and 1 son.
Posted By: Marka Re: Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 3rd Jun 2012 8:25pm
Thank you very very much. I'd had a quick look and thought that might be them in 1911 but wasn't sure.

You're a star

Cxx
(Marka's wife! I appear to be logged in as him for some reason!)
Posted By: kenmo52 Re: Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 3rd Jun 2012 9:03pm
If you send me a PM with your e-mail address, I can send you the 1911 census and railway employment records I found on Ancestry.

kenmo52
Posted By: rentaclown100 Re: Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 4th Jun 2012 12:28pm
got a pic of said item? if you plan to sell it on, do so with all the history you can get at a specialised auction. my old man knows one, will let you know. reckon thats worth a few quid
Posted By: Marka Re: Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 4th Jun 2012 8:32pm
Couple of pics attached (hopefully). Poor resolution, but it's the best my phone can manage tonight.

Clock details are:
Mahogany case, some minor dings and a little damage to the face, but nothing you wouldn't expect given its age. Movement is by the Hamburg American Clock company and seems pretty clean. Clock has Westminster chimes.

Value wise, I don't know if the plaque adds or removes value. Personally I like it as it gives it a personal history.

Attached picture 2012-06-04 21.24.41.jpg
Attached picture 2012-06-04 21.22.39.jpg
Posted By: bigpete Re: Liverpool and Birkenhead GWR - 6th Jun 2012 2:24pm
The GWR had a small yard in Brook Street itself and a large rail-connected warehouse known as Morpeth - he will probably have worked at one of those locations - but he may have worked at the Manchester Street Warehouse on the Liverpool side.

Also the GWR had it's own sailors to man the barges that travelled across from Morpeth Warehouse...
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