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Posted By: derekdwc train on lowloader - 7th Mar 2010 5:36pm
I think this engine may have been going to Birkenhead Docks
What route would it have taken to get there
Where were these engines built

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Posted By: Anonymous Re: train on lowloader - 7th Mar 2010 5:58pm
Vulcan Foundry/loco works was at Newton-le-Willows (I think). Presume they headed for the East Lancs Rd. (Newly opened), Scotty Rd. Into the tunnel. Leave via the Dock Branch (tight fit maybe), then head towards whatever dock the ship was leaving from ?
Posted By: bri445 Re: train on lowloader - 7th Mar 2010 11:49pm
We've covered this topic in a previous thread but blowed if I can find it!
Bri
Posted By: bri445 Re: train on lowloader - 7th Mar 2010 11:54pm
Just found it... look up 'Gated roundabouts' in search, March 09.
Posted By: pacef8 Re: train on lowloader - 8th Mar 2010 1:27pm
that was the one i started about the gates. and going up then off new chester road to avoid the bridge by cammel lairds..
Posted By: w10694 Re: train on lowloader - 9th Mar 2010 7:40pm
Looking at the Vulcan website, I reckon that the loco is one of the following:

1949-50 Works No. #5750-5833 4-6-0, 5'6" gauge Indian Government Railways. (84 loco's)

Posted By: Anonymous Re: train on lowloader - 9th Mar 2010 8:17pm
Certainly 4-6-0's and they look wider than standard gauge. Good work !
Posted By: w10694 Re: train on lowloader - 9th Mar 2010 8:20pm
Vulcan didn't appear to build many 4-6-0's (other than LMS & LNER versions), and the scene looked 1950'ish.

I'm surprised at it going through the tunnel - as they don't let heavy vehicles through now !

Perhaps that's why !
Posted By: Historybook Re: train on lowloader - 9th Mar 2010 8:23pm
The trailer that the engine is on in the top picture was owned by Edward Box and made by Scammell. It was later owned by Marston Road services and perhaps then to Picford's. There is one in the Leyland museum.
Posted By: Historybook Re: train on lowloader - 9th Mar 2010 8:47pm
Give this link a try, should take you to a short film (i hope).

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=2929
Posted By: derekdwc Re: train on lowloader - 9th Mar 2010 10:22pm
just spent a couple of hours looking at Birkenhead vids here
Where was National Union of General and Municipal Workers at Birkenhead

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Posted By: w10694 Re: train on lowloader - 9th Mar 2010 10:45pm
As a totally useless aside, did you know that there was another heavy goods moving company called "Siddle", they pulled out of the business, reversed their name and now make "Elddis" caravans.
Posted By: derekdwc Re: train on lowloader - 10th Mar 2010 9:59am
can make out Christian Street on side of building
Liverpool?
Posted By: chriskay Re: train on lowloader - 10th Mar 2010 11:55am
Originally Posted by w10694
As a totally useless aside, did you know that there was another heavy goods moving company called "Siddle", they pulled out of the business, reversed their name and now make "Elddis" caravans.


Interesting bit of info; always wondered why the double D
Posted By: bri445 Re: train on lowloader - 11th Mar 2010 10:52pm
This looks like the same type (HPS) of loco with a different paint job, on the E.Lancs Road.


Description: From 'Vulcan Foundry Locomotives' (publ. Bradford Barton, 1976)
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Posted By: bri445 Re: train on lowloader - 11th Mar 2010 11:15pm
Sorry, I meant a different paint job from second photo! The grey one is probably one of the 1946/7 batch of HPS class for the East India Railway.

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