277 Firemans Arms 36 Oliver Street

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Up for sale at the moment - £115,000 freehold for the whole property - 5 bedrooms.

Absolute bargain provided it never gets hit with a compulsory purchase order for some development scheme.

Looks a right mess atm the moment last time i was in there 15 months ago looked a right dump.

I first went in here in 1972. At that time it had a separate bar and lounge. You entered the bar room through the existing door. The actual bar was to your left and ran along to roughly whjere the wall ends now. The lounge is the seating area at the back. You entered that through a differnet door which is now locked off. The gents was to the right of the existing bar. The ladies may have been where it is now. I remebr the landlord going mad because someone had stolen the copper pipes from the urinals and the toiletg was flooded. It used to have fantastic guinness. It still does a good pint.Why they made these pubs open plan I don;t know. The Richmond in Oxton Road was another pub ruined.

They used to do nice crusty corned beef rolls in the Firemans

Use to go in there on a Friday night, going back a bit as it was late 50s and early 60s, then from there up to the Little Brown Jug which was also in Oliver Street

One of the pubs in Oliver Street was prosecuted for keeping a badger for three years to be baited by dogs. The badger was rescued.It was in the 19th century.

Firemans pub reopens in 3/4 weeks,

I seen work men outside the other day, who is the new owners?

plenty of work been done today and seen the old owner next to it.

Its a mate of mine thats got it.

How come the old owner was there?

I hate hearing things like that-so cruel, but at least thankfully it was rescued. -How can people do that? I really dont understand some people, nasty,nasty.

I have a book and it says about that, think it was either the Firemans or Stairways. But either way there was something that happened with Animal cruelty in Stairways to at one point in the upper floors.

Much as I love animals as the next man, in the 19th century we were shoving kids up chimneys and down mines. Loads had never heard of shoes, a square meal and had a dreaded fear of the workhouse. I don't know the statistics but infant mortality was horrendous. Forgive me for not worrying about a badger and I am only surprised that it was considered cruel then! Fireman's was a watering hole for the postal workers from Argyle street at one time.

I beleive it was origonaly frequented by the fire men from the argyle theatre,as the theatres of those days were at great risk of fire

Wow i popped my head in today and it looks so nice inside.

I agree with your perspective and although sadly child cruelty though illegal still exists in this day and age, most people are horrified with it, but there are still a lot of people among us who want to cause suffering to badgers and other animals and actually think it to be normal. We aren't talking about jus thick thugs either, but some very intelligent and organised people. But then I suppose the Nazis were intelligent and well organised too.

I just cannot understand people who who can get any form of enjoyment through either inflicting pain on others; being a person or animal, or watching it for their own 'entertainment', i cant find that to be acceptable, or normal, i abhor any form of cruelty; which is to protect.

last line should of said ; in my view it goes against all my natural instinct which is to protect. ( whoops! Dont know what went wrong there!)

I agree with you entirely.

In the 19th Century, the law against animal cruelty was actually passed BEFORE the law against child cruelty!!

That doesn't surprise me. Officer's horses were treated better than foot soldiers inthe British Army. Maybe still are.