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Posted By: Cali_16v Mediation - 1st Feb 2008 5:39pm
Anyone know what mediation is like.

Got my first session on tuesday, which i might add i have to pay for cos i don't get legal aid, damn my high wage.

just wondered if anyone could give me any info on what to expect, first hand experience as there is only so much a website can tell you.

Cheers guys and girls

aliendance
Posted By: Shane_mini Re: Mediation - 1st Feb 2008 5:41pm
have to go there me self in about a week
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 2nd Feb 2008 11:43pm
Be prepared to snore lol

I think i done one years ago, and i heard myself snoring
just at the point of going to sleep.

I woke up a little read faced but didn't sleep for the hour wink

You may feel more tired afterwards lol i did.

Pink Shirts - High Wages i see the connection now.
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 2nd Feb 2008 11:44pm
p.s

is there a reason this is in "Parenting & Families" or would it
be more suited in Health ??
Posted By: chiccy Re: Mediation - 2nd Feb 2008 11:45pm
mark its mediation not meditation
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 12:11am
mediation - solicitor tells me when i can see my daughter !!!!!
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 1:49am
Wirral Family Law & Mediation Service

Allport Lane Precinct
Wirral,
CH62 7HH
0151 343 3150



That make it clear mark doh
Posted By: Shane_mini Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 2:49am
thay dont say when u can see her u have to talk to your ex about that av got to go there in about a week 2 sort out seein my daughter. he told me it could go on 4 about an hour an a half an if it dont get sorted then i will have to go back till it is.he said its better than goin to court over. rather go to court than talk to her
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 11:30am
i know mate it's 3-4 meetings which i have to pay for, annoys me i have to pay someone to tell me when i can see my daughter. I have threatened court but the cost would kill me, mediation is £180 per hour plus VAT of which we pay half each, she gets legal aid so it's free for her. so i', paying £90 per hour and it takes and hour and half per session.

Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 11:57am
Originally Posted by chiccy
mark its mediation not meditation
O bollox i'm so tired and ill.

WOW That's so wrong.
I'm amazed that you cant get legal aid?
I say that because my view (Maybe not right) but why should the cost of what ever be the deciding factor in seeing your child or not.

I know it can be an expensive long haul.
£4,500 and the rest it cost a relative through family courts,
and his ex got all the legal aid she wanted and Barristers too.

£180 per Hour omg
Do you get fed there? Do you get a bathrobe you can take with you...

What do you get for £180 then ??

Never been, but my advice for that kind of money
dont storm out in the first 5 mins....

I am SHOCKED truly SHOCKED
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 12:22pm
I know got a feeling i'm going to want to storm out.

Quote

Mediation

...an attempt to bring about a peaceful settlement or compromise between disputants through the objective intervention of a neutral party.


Family Mediation Accreditation Scheme

Mediation involves a trained, neutral, impartial third-party using special skills to resolve a dispute, whether or not the parties have already commenced litigation.

Mediation differs from litigation and arbitration, in which a third-party (the judge or arbitrator) makes a binding decision about a dispute and informs the parties of it.

The Family Mediation Accreditation Scheme's purpose is to ensure that the legal profession and the public can easily identify solicitors and legal executives who provide mediation services in family and matrimonial disputes.

Family mediators may specialise in either children-only or financial-only mediation. However, scheme members have an awareness and knowledge of all family mediation issues.

Only solicitors and legal executives (ie Fellows of the Institute of Legal Executives, or FILEXs) who meet the SRA's exacting requirements are permitted to join the scheme.

When you see the Family Mediation Accreditation Scheme logo, you'll know that the practitioner's skills, knowledge and experience have been rigorously and independently assessed.
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 2:14pm
For £20 i will bang your heads together...

Reading between the lines there, from your quote i'm
seeing the words RIP OFF.

I hope it works out mate.
Do you pay this up front the £180 or can you pay weekly
as in £2 per week until the child is 18 ???
Posted By: Shane_mini Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 3:23pm
thay say thay r there to help but the only thing thay help with is makein ya skint in the end. i think £180 is takein the piss for just an hour an a half
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 5:01pm
£180 is an absolute rip-off, im sure social service's do the same sort of service for free to help families at war?? Is this a mate of her solicitor's or summit?

How come ye can't claim the legal aid, Djibril Cisse claimed legal aid a few times and he was on a reported £48,000 a week after tax lmao!

This country sucks!
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 3rd Feb 2008 11:51pm
No sorry guys it's180 per hour split between us.

advised them of my earnings and bill and they said wouldn't get help
Posted By: jonah Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 2:15pm
Originally Posted by MattLFC
£180 is an absolute rip-off, im sure social service's do the same sort of service for free to help families at war?? Is this a mate of her solicitor's or summit?

How come ye can't claim the legal aid, Djibril Cisse claimed legal aid a few times and he was on a reported £48,000 a week after tax lmao!

This country sucks!

he prob got the legal aid as he's foreign !
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 2:17pm
Make's ya sick though dunnit, people who are on £50,000 a week after tax can get legal aid, yet normal people like Daz who goe's and works a hard graft like the rest of the majority of the country for relative pittance can't get anything!!

mad
Posted By: jonah Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 2:19pm
change name by deed-poll and he should get it....
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 2:20pm
yeah, to summit like Iqbal Abdullah Hussain lol.

Disclaimer: I am not racist in the slightest, im against racism and fascism, but it's damn true, if he were an immigrant, he would probably get legal aid!!
Posted By: chiccy Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 3:13pm
Originally Posted by MattLFC
Iqbal Abdullah Hussain lol.!!
LOOOL
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 4:38pm
£90 an Hour Daz you should also be waited on.

A foot massage as you mediate smile
And the offer of a free drink and biscuits.

Its WRONG WRONG WRONG its you that is paying the price as well
as your daughter frown
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 5:15pm
less than 24 hours to go.

oh well see how it goes this once if not might have to go to court and spend even more money.
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 5:18pm
well good luck matey, i hope it works out for ye; do you pay before or after the session? if its shit, say your not paying cos it wasnt worth the money, get em on something under the trade descriptions act lol.
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 5:31pm
Yeh you can meet at my house for £20 and i will give you one drink each, just for the hell of it...


Seriously,
Good luck, let us know what its like.
Enjoy your £90 Butties smile
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 5:41pm
Anyone else up for joining me in starting a mediation clinic... we can make 90 an hour out of this, and we will be undercutting the competition by 50%!!!

smile
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 5:44pm
We could stir up the shit, to get repeat business wink
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 5:48pm
Originally Posted by Mark
We could stir up the shit, to get repeat business wink

quality idea...

laugh
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 6:05pm
Sorry guys.


Quote

Family mediators may specialise in either children-only or financial-only mediation. However, scheme members have an awareness and knowledge of all family mediation issues.

Only solicitors and legal executives (ie Fellows of the Institute of Legal Executives, or FILEXs) who meet the SRA's exacting requirements are permitted to join the scheme.

When you see the Family Mediation Accreditation Scheme logo, you'll know that the practitioner's skills, knowledge and experience have been rigorously and independently assessed.
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 6:07pm
Yeah, just like the SIA members are rigourously and indepentdently assessed... this fookin government needs to get real, £180 an hour is a fookin scandel, even on legal aid were all still paying for it mad
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 4th Feb 2008 6:17pm
I want go into how much the fee earners and solicitors charge in our place then..
Posted By: chiccy Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 1:38pm
good luck mate..love jonah n chiccy xx
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 2:08pm
Meeting as at 4pm. so should be out be half 5 if i can stay in for the hour and a half.

Thanks Guys
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 6:24pm
Well..................................

the less the said the better.
Posted By: jonah Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 6:49pm
frown oh no matey..... u got my number..txt or pm me !
Posted By: Shane_mini Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 6:50pm
whats it like av got to go there in about a week
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 7:00pm
Jonah mate, it's not that it was bad or not worth the money just feel i've agreed to something i shouldn't of.

Kind of only get myself to blame.

for those that want to know. It was quite a good experience, very pleasent (well he is getting £180 per hour). He listens to what you have to say in turn, then comes up with ideas and suggestions. you then kind of TWEAK these idea's to suit yourself and your situation.

Your Ex then tweaks it and the solicitors then tries to work it out again taking into account both your ideas.

He had an idea for our situation which put in idea to which he took into account but didn't really change it much and i said yes to it. But i'm still not happy with the overall idea so might just go to court anyway.
Posted By: Shane_mini Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 7:04pm
just ring him an tell him your had a good think about it an your not happy with what u agreed with an see if he can change it
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 5th Feb 2008 7:25pm
to change anything to have to have another meeting (£180) because you both have to agree to it. our next meeting is on the 17th March.
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 6th Feb 2008 6:03pm
Gutted

Not going into too many details.

Do you have any contact at all? At the moment.
Or will your next contact with your daughter be 17th March?

Curious.

Court can cost Thousands, as the Judge seems to think
that by giving you less than half of what you want
you will be fine with that, and then you pay all over
again.

My Advice : For what its worth.
Because your working, and getting no legal aid.
Think long and hard, it not fair we know that,
but to make it an even fight, you need legal aid mate.
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 6th Feb 2008 6:23pm
cheers Mark,

Haven't seen my daughter for 3 weeks, we have a short term plan for now but after i thought about it i shouldn't of agreed it.

but if i do go along with it, it will start next week at the earliest. so that will be a full month without seeing her.

cry
Posted By: Waddi Re: Mediation - 6th Feb 2008 6:47pm
From the sounds of it you got something sorted, which is a step forward. Maybe if you go along with the short term plan, it will progress into you and your ex making an amicable agreement and resulting in you getting more access to you Daughter.

Good Luck Mate.

Think positive mate!
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 7th Feb 2008 6:40pm
What happens if you guys make an agreement?

What i mean, is lest say for the sake of it through this
in expensive mediation, you agree on 2 a week to see your
daughter.

Then 3 months down the line, for what ever the reason
may be, your ex decides your not seeing her?

Do you have any protection, against her changing her mind?
Is the only way to get this agreement in stone via a court?
Posted By: Cali_16v Re: Mediation - 7th Feb 2008 6:46pm
Spot on mark, it's not legally binding, and if it goes to court the agreement made in mediation can not be used.

it is legally privileged.
Posted By: Shane_mini Re: Mediation - 7th Feb 2008 7:06pm
i dont understand why girls r like that i have only seen an held my kid once since she was born so av got to go to midiation. dont no how thats goin to work.
Posted By: Mark Re: Mediation - 7th Feb 2008 7:21pm
You know what Daz this is leading up perfectly
for your ex to screw you over and turn your world upside down
because the law lets her.

And you wonder why Father's for Justice made such protests.

If it turns nasty mate,
you would end up loosing again and again.
And this can go on and on for months, well you know that already.

I seen my bro cough up £8,000 and then 4 years later another £3,000 just for equality.

There real numbers you have to think about.
And the only way that i am aware of for you to get legal aid
is to loose your job frown

I do sympathise with you and your situation.
And for you too shane.

To me it seems that these woman only have the kids a pawns
to fight with frown
There not interested in there welfare at all.
Posted By: Shane_mini Re: Mediation - 7th Feb 2008 7:29pm
when it comes 2 sein ya kids most women use there kids as a weapon to try get what thay want . i told mine i didnt want to be with her anymore next thing she tels me is i cant see me kid
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