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Posted By: Mark Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 14th Mar 2014 8:28am
MH370 live: Missing Malaysian plane could have flown on for another FOUR HOURS after it disappeared from radar

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3239624

Is anyone else following this?
How weird?

Not to be disrespectful to those involved you cant help but think of "Lost" (TV Series) fictional yes but with all the eyes in the sky satellites and and more how can it just vanish ? Its crazy to think it can.

Posted By: Dilly Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 14th Mar 2014 8:49am
A little bit Bermuda triangle:ish.
Posted By: Vanmanone Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 14th Mar 2014 11:36am

I`ve been following this myself, maybe they`re lacking the equipment or means to locate it, if they get close enough they should be able to pick up the distress beacon"depth depending" which has a limited battery life of a month I believe.
Posted By: chriskay Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 14th Mar 2014 11:59am
Rolls Royce will have data on the performance of the engines through the in-built data monitoring systems. They should know exactly when the engines stopped running.
Posted By: granny Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 15th Mar 2014 12:54pm
This seems to be getting more confusing and more bizarre by the day.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 15th Mar 2014 4:00pm
Hard to imagine what the loved ones/relatives are having to go through. Thoughts go out to them..........
Posted By: granny Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 15th Mar 2014 4:25pm
The relatives and friends must be torn apart.

If they are now sifting through the pilots home, obviously suspecting him of being involved, I can't understand that if he has landed somewhere, why none of the passengers have been able to make the briefest phone call.
Just one contact would indicate there was survival. If they have had their phones confiscated, can't imagine the pilot has been able to do that on his own. Surely, someone would have kicked off.
That's just a thought.
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 16th Mar 2014 9:18pm
Jamming devices to jam mobiles and onboard electronics? Wouldnt necessarily stop the satelite pinging. Think the yanks have such a device using EMP to stop would be bombers triggering bombs electronically.
Posted By: casper Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 17th Mar 2014 10:25am
I think the authorities know more than they are letting on, spooks, behind the scenes dealings, somewhat like Entebbe who knows, the next few days will tell us more maybe
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 17th Mar 2014 12:01pm
Originally Posted by fish5133
Jamming devices to jam mobiles and onboard electronics? Wouldnt necessarily stop the satelite pinging. Think the yanks have such a device using EMP to stop would be bombers triggering bombs electronically.
LOL fish, you been playing too much splinter cell.

Originally Posted by casper
I think the authorities know more than they are letting on, spooks, behind the scenes dealings, somewhat like Entebbe who knows, the next few days will tell us more maybe
Yes casper, like the 9/11 only people think your mad for thinking so.

Originally Posted by granny
This seems to be getting more confusing and more bizarre by the day.



There was no plane
there were no young immigrants with stolen passports

or

There was a plane
upon entering vietnam airspace it entered a third dimension turning the plane into mush and its passangers back into little monkeys.

Dont believe everything you read or everything you see.

Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 17th Mar 2014 8:15pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...95047833&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067


Stranger and stranger......

I'm going along with Alien Abduction theory.... sherlock seeyu
Posted By: Mark Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 17th Mar 2014 8:22pm
The Final Hours Click me

Wow still how in this modern day and age, if there is anyone behind it, it must have been very very well planed out. As far as to say as planned as 9/11 dare i say it that way.

It would be amazing to find the plane and passengers alive and well. Its just one of them bermuda triangle stories truly unbelievable.
Posted By: granny Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 17th Mar 2014 10:51pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
Originally Posted by fish5133
Jamming devices to jam mobiles and onboard electronics? Wouldnt necessarily stop the satelite pinging. Think the yanks have such a device using EMP to stop would be bombers triggering bombs electronically.
LOL fish, you been playing too much splinter cell.

Originally Posted by casper
I think the authorities know more than they are letting on, spooks, behind the scenes dealings, somewhat like Entebbe who knows, the next few days will tell us more maybe
Yes casper, like the 9/11 only people think your mad for thinking so.

Originally Posted by granny
This seems to be getting more confusing and more bizarre by the day.



There was no plane
there were no young immigrants with stolen passports

or

There was a plane
upon entering vietnam airspace it entered a third dimension turning the plane into mush and its passangers back into little monkeys.

Dont believe everything you read or everything you see.



You obviously do Ste, or you wouldn't be quoting us all! grin
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 17th Mar 2014 11:26pm
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370 may have been hacked in the world’s first “cyber-hijack,” claims a British anti-terrorism expert.

Former Home Office scientific adviser Sally Leivesley said that hijackers may have changed the plane’s speed, direction, and altitude via radio signals to the plane’s flight management system, reported the Sydney Morning Herald.

The plane could have then been crashed or landed, Leivesley continued, according to the Herald, which cited the Sunday Express newspaper in London.

Leivesley’s theory is one of many as to what happened to the missing plane, which had 239 people on board. It hasn’t been seen or heard from since March 8 when it was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Malaysian officials said over the weekend that the plane’s disappearance was a deliberate act, and police started searching the homes of the jet’s pilot and co-pilot.

Leivesley said that she believes malicious codes could have overcome the plane’s security.

“This is a very early version of what I would call a smart plane, a fly-by-wire aircraft controlled by electronic signals,” she said. “There appears to be an element of planning from someone with a very sophisticated systems engineering understanding,” she added.

Leivesley continued: “It is looking more and more likely that the control of some systems was taken over in a deceptive manner, either manually, so someone sitting in a seat overriding the autopilot, or via a remote device turning off or overwhelming the systems.

“A mobile phone could have been used to do so or a USB stick. When the plane is air-side, you can insert a set of commands and codes that may initiate, on signal, a set of processes.”

Leivesley told the paper that she was notified of this kind of hacking threat last year while at a conference. “What we are finding now is that it is possible with a mobile phone to initiate a signal to a preset piece of malicious software, or malware, in the computer that initiates a whole set of instructions,’’ she said.

“It is possible for hackers — be they part of organised crime or with government backgrounds — to get into the main computer network of the plane through the inflight, onboard entertainment system,” she continued.

In 2013, at the Hack in the Box conference, security researcher Hugo Teso went on stage and took out his phone. He accessed an app, Planesploit, that he coded himself, which he said could affect a plane’s navigation systems.

Teso, who is a researcher, said that he could theoretically change a plane’s route and make it crash with the app. He reportedly did a demonstration on stage to show that systems on board planes are vulnerable.

But U.S. air regulators said that his app wasn’t possible.

“The hacking technique described during a recent computer security conference does not pose a flight safety concern because it does not work on certified flight hardware. The described technique cannot engage or control the aircraft’s autopilot system using the FMS or prevent a pilot from overriding the autopilot. Therefore, a hacker cannot obtain ‘full control of an aircraft’ as the technology consultant has claimed,” the FAA said, according to Net-Security.

And the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) downplayed Teso’s findings, saying that embedded software has a “robustness that is not present on ground-based simulation software.”

Rockwell Collins wrote a commentary for Forbes that said, “Today’s certified avionics systems are designed and built with high levels of redundancy and security,” adding that Teso’s research “involves testing with virtual aircraft in a lab environment, which is not analogous to certified aircraft and systems operating in regulated airspace.”

Trend Micro, a security company, said in October 2013 that “vulnerabilities” have been “discovered in global vessel tracking systems.”

“Trend Micro researchers have discovered that flaws in the [Automatic Identification System]AIS vessel tracking system can allow attackers to hijack communications of existing vessels, create fake vessels, trigger false SOS or collision alerts and even permanently disable AIS tracking on any vessel,” the firm wrote.

The AIS is a “a mandatory vessel tracking system for all commercial (non-fishing) ships over 300 metric tons, as well as passenger ships (regardless of size and weight). AIS works by acquiring GPS coordinates and exchanging a vessel’s position, course and information with nearby ships and offshore installations. It is currently installed in around 400,000 vessels.”

AIS, it says, is but one example of “a mandatory vessel tracking system for all commercial (non-fishing) ships over 300 metric tons, as well as passenger ships (regardless of size and weight). AIS works by acquiring GPS coordinates and exchanging a vessel’s position, course and information with nearby ships and offshore installations. It is currently installed in around 400,000 vessels.”
Posted By: ZipperClub Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 17th Mar 2014 11:44pm
This sounds more and more like a job for..

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Posted By: granny Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 24th Mar 2014 2:41pm
British Company Inmar have (almost certainly)located the debris in the Southern Indian Ocean..................

Inmarsat plc (LSE: ISAT) is a British satellite telecommunications company, offering global, mobile services. It provides telephone and data services to users worldwide, via portable or mobile terminals which communicate to ground stations through eleven geostationary telecommunications satellites. Inmarsat's network provides communications services to a range of governments, aid agencies, media outlets and businesses with a need to communicate in remote regions or where there is no reliable terrestrial network.

How very tragic. Why on earth should it be there?
Sympathies to all the bereaved families.
Posted By: svenlock68 Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 7:18pm
if you look at helios flight 522 in 2005, I think although its at night theres similar things to both.
Air seals go ,the flights diverted to another airport and drops to below 10,000 feet high which humans can breathe in .
this explains the heavy turn then nothing as pilots and crew/ passengers go into hypoxia and the plane drifts till fuel runs out and it falls into deep deep ocean....no one will feel a thing.
Posted By: ZipperClub Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 7:25pm
Do they not have oxygen masks for pilots?
Posted By: Nomad Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 7:58pm
Yes there is, they drop automatically
Posted By: Nomad Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 8:01pm
there is two in each toilet, anyone want to guess why?
Posted By: ZipperClub Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 8:12pm
Incase you have a child with you
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 8:19pm
Mile High Club
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 8:42pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Mile High Club
shocked
Posted By: Nomad Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 28th Mar 2014 8:48pm
Like your thinking but its for parents with kids
Posted By: svenlock68 Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 29th Mar 2014 4:13pm
In Helios flight there was no time
Pilots and everyone else go into hypoxia
Those masks are limited supply
There's drager masks and hoods in flight food prep area but they run out. A form of breathing apparatus like firefighters
As sign of this happening is extreme cold in plane during run up flights
Posted By: organiser Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 4th Apr 2014 9:11am
This was sent to me by a friend in America...I reprint it exactly as it was received with no comment as to whether or not it is a possible scenario

MH370


The Americans are withdrawing from Afghanistan, one of their command and control systems, used for controlling the pilotless drones, was hijacked by the Taliban when an American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taliban ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system, which weighed about 20 tons and was packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.


What the Taliban want is money so they went looking to sell the system to the Russians or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in the Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.


Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the Americans had engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they set about intercepting and recapturing the cargo.




The Chinese calculated that it would be safe to transport the crates via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and believing the Americans would not hijack or harm civilians, so MH370 is the perfect carrier.


There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them.

As MH370 is about to leave Malaysian air space and report to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily. How can the AWAC do that? Remember the 911 incident? After 911, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing aircraft can be controlled remotely by ground control. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.


The 5 American/Israeli agents took control of the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite.

The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react. The plane flew over North Sumatra, Andaman Is., South India and landed at the Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing). The aircraft was refueled and continued its flight to Deigo Garcia, the American Air Base in the middle of the Indian Ocean. The cargo and black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen, they believe only dead people will not talk. Using remote control, MH370, with dead passengers on board, was flown to the South Indian Ocean and crashed into the sea, leading everyone to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel.


This is top draw stuff by the Americans. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane was on it's way to the Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statements and evidence to confuse the rest of the world.

The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and then the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defence scientists.

.......................
What do you think???????
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 4th Apr 2014 11:36am
Probably the plot for Die Hard 6, nothing more.
Posted By: DA_DIBZ Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 - 4th Apr 2014 2:01pm
The truth.

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