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Posted By: granny Somerset Flood Appeal - 12th Feb 2014 5:13pm

Somerset Flood Appeal.

http://www.justgiving.com/Somerset-Community-Found-Flood-Appeal

If you would like to buy a picture by a little boy who wants to help, the following link has been set up by his mum. Funds going to be amalgamated with above fund raising appeal.

http://www.justgiving.com/VanessaDavey

Images taken from Facebook.



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Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 12th Feb 2014 5:52pm
http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/heres-camerons-response-to-the-flooding-in-a-nutshell/


Yup!! Normal people need to help those people suffering.
Posted By: snowhite Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 12th Feb 2014 8:30pm
Originally Posted by granny

Somerset Flood Appeal.

http://www.justgiving.com/Somerset-Community-Found-Flood-Appeal

If you would like to buy a picture by a little boy who wants to help, the following link has been set up by his mum. Funds going to be amalgamated with above fund raising appeal.

http://www.justgiving.com/VanessaDavey

Images taken from Facebook.

The whole place is nearly under water.Worst is going to be Friday.More flooding, less winds.
Posted By: Touchstone Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 12th Feb 2014 9:08pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX


Cameron is a disgrace! The cuts to the Environment Agency, Army and Fire Brigades are coming home to roost. There are still major cuts for all these bodies to come. How the hell are we going to able to respond to more extreme weather in the future?
Cameron should promise to restore their pre-election budgets or resign [preferably both].
Posted By: granny Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 12th Feb 2014 11:27pm
Too many places to point fingers at the moment.. but the National Rivers Authority was disbanded in 1996 replaced by the Environment Agency, since when there has been little or no work maintaining the infrastructure.

I think the people of Somerset are more concentrated on getting through these dreadful times at the moment, as one said, the mud slinging can come later.
I think we should respect that view and give them support that they need right now.
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 13th Feb 2014 12:50pm
Originally Posted by Touchstone
How the hell are we going to able to respond to more extreme weather in the future?


Assuming there IS going to be more extreme weather in the future?

And that's the key word - "assuming". Bad storms happen on average once every hundred years. But we've had two.

That's the thing about averages - they're just that - but people seem to think that because they happen on average that they should only happen in these defined time frames.

But nature doesn't work like that.
Posted By: granny Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 14th Feb 2014 3:29pm

https://www.facebook.com/Somerset.Floods
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 14th Feb 2014 5:26pm
the website for the environment agency ends in .gov.uk.So they are just blaming themselves. They will be blaming the EA for all the rain weve had.
As soon as possible we should charter coaches down to somerset and other flood hit areas and do our shopping down there and have a jolly good meal and drink in some of the affected hostelries to show support.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 14th Feb 2014 9:43pm
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Posted By: venice Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 14th Feb 2014 10:04pm
Is there hope that people's insurance companies will pay out fully, or is it one of those 'act of God' problems?
Posted By: granny Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 19th Feb 2014 6:20am
The insurance companies are in it for the money, so let them pay. They may carry more weight with the EA, in respect of having the rivers dredged, which ever part of the uk it is. I heard it was due to EA policy that was the result in St. Asaph in November 2012.
More pics of Somerset. Hardly believable.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/27-staggering-new-pictures-of-the-somerset-levels-floods


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Posted By: Gibbo Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 20th Feb 2014 11:14am
Great sensible blog from BBC Weatherman Paul Hudson relating to the rolling media coverage and southern bias:

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The pictures of extensive flooding in Somerset, and the battering our coast has received, particularly in Cornwall, have been breath-taking.

But it is worth putting the current flood in context, and as distressing as it is to be flooded, the number of properties affected in the south of the UK is tiny compared to other floods in previous years.

For example, up until this weekend the total number of properties affected by floodwater in Somerset in the last few weeks is 40.

But during the coastal surge in early December last year, 688 properties were flooded along the Yorkshire coast alone, and according to the Environment Agency, flood defences protected 66,000 properties in the Yorkshire and Humber area at that time.

Since last week, between 800 and 900 properties have flooded in the UK, primarily in southern Britain.

Although this number may rise significantly in the next few days, particularly with the Thames now at record levels in relatively highly populated parts of Berkshire and Surrey, it is still comparatively small compared to the last big flood to hit the UK.

That was In June 2007 and far more people were affected; in the Yorkshire and Humber region alone, a staggering 23,479 homes were flooded, along with 3,718 businesses.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/
Posted By: granny Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 20th Feb 2014 12:07pm
What are you trying to say Gibbo? Is it that the farming community (less houses in farming communities) and the undoubted ongoing problems for farmers and livestock in the Somerset levels are of no concern? That the SSSI of the levels and moors is of no concern, or that the homes being flooded don't count because they are south of Birmingham?
We all remember the floods in Yorkshire and elsewhere and they had equal support from the public, although you may not have contributed, so what is your point and what are you concerned about ?

Posted By: granny Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 22nd Feb 2014 12:31pm


http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/...-Levels/story-20669860-detail/story.html
Posted By: granny Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 24th Feb 2014 1:06pm
...and now the truth!

Extract:


Devastating evidence has now come to light not just that the floods covering 65 square miles of the Somerset Levels could have been prevented, but that they were deliberately engineered by Labour ministers in 2009, regardless of the property and human rights of the thousands of people whose homes and livelihoods would be affected. Furthermore, that wildly misleading Met Office forecast in November led the Environment Agency to take a step that has made the flooding infinitely more disastrous than it need have been.


The “smoking guns” begin with a policy decision announced in 2005 by Labour’s “floods minister” Elliot Morley, later to be jailed for fraudulently claiming more than £30,000 on his MP’s expenses. Under the heading “Saving wetland habitats: more money for key sites”, Morley directed that, to comply with the EU’s habitats directive and a part-EU-funded study involving the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds, the WWF and the Environment Agency, flooding in Somerset should be artificially promoted, because “wildlife will benefit from increased water levels”. The 13 local drainage boards, responsible for keeping the Levels properly managed, were all to be co-opted into implementing this policy.

The Environment Agency had already stopped proper dredging of the River Parrett, which provides the main channel draining floodwater on the Levels to the sea, because of the exorbitant cost of disposing of silt under EU waste regulations. And Morley had vetoed a proposal to build a new pumping station at Dunball, at the end of the massive Kings Sedgemoor Drain, which would have allowed much more effective, 24-hour pumping of flood water into the mouth of the Parrett estuary,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/fl...-Levels-was-deliberately-engineered.html
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 24th Feb 2014 3:21pm
Originally Posted by granny
What are you trying to say Gibbo? Is it that the farming community (less houses in farming communities) and the undoubted ongoing problems for farmers and livestock in the Somerset levels are of no concern? That the SSSI of the levels and moors is of no concern, or that the homes being flooded don't count because they are south of Birmingham?
We all remember the floods in Yorkshire and elsewhere and they had equal support from the public, although you may not have contributed, so what is your point and what are you concerned about ?



I'm not "saying" anything, I just posted up a link from a BBC weatherman.

If you have a problem with the content of it I suggest you ask him about it.

Incidentally, it was interesting to see the BBC getting a slating at the bottom of your Telegraph link.
Posted By: granny Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 24th Feb 2014 8:22pm
Originally Posted by Gibbo
Great sensible blog from BBC Weatherman Paul Hudson relating to the rolling media coverage and southern bias:

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The pictures of extensive flooding in Somerset, and the battering our coast has received, particularly in Cornwall, have been breath-taking.

But it is worth putting the current flood in context, and as distressing as it is to be flooded, the number of properties affected in the south of the UK is tiny compared to other floods in previous years.

For example, up until this weekend the total number of properties affected by floodwater in Somerset in the last few weeks is 40.

But during the coastal surge in early December last year, 688 properties were flooded along the Yorkshire coast alone, and according to the Environment Agency, flood defences protected 66,000 properties in the Yorkshire and Humber area at that time.

Since last week, between 800 and 900 properties have flooded in the UK, primarily in southern Britain.

Although this number may rise significantly in the next few days, particularly with the Thames now at record levels in relatively highly populated parts of Berkshire and Surrey, it is still comparatively small compared to the last big flood to hit the UK.

That was In June 2007 and far more people were affected; in the Yorkshire and Humber region alone, a staggering 23,479 homes were flooded, along with 3,718 businesses.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/


With your post which proceeded the article you quoted ,I assumed that you were in agreement or sympathy with the said article, as would normally be concluded when someone posts with an attachment or link.
so apologies for misunderstanding.
Having said that , I do somewhat agree with the focus on the Berkshire, Surrey areas suddenly being given more air time than Cornwall and Somerset areas, and considering the later was not really covered to any great degree on BBC, until after Bonnie Prince Charlie had visited and had followed up with a call to our Prime Minister, the previous 2 months of their traumas had definitely been overlooked. Once the Thames was at such a dangerous level, focus shifted and although that seemed biased, I dare say, had the Thames broken it's banks, the situation would have been a great disaster.
Yes, I noted the comment about BBC at the bottom of my link and as such it would appear that they too are controlled as to what is broadcast.
I also noted that the information provided by the Met Office to the EA was conclusive that climate change would mean dryer winters.
That leads to a point that the EA don't necessarily have the correct information on which they make their (informed?) decisions, which in turn has to make us wonder if all the decisions the EA take on our behalf, are correct !! (e.g.Fracking wink That was put in , just to wind you up Gibbo smile )
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Somerset Flood Appeal - 25th Feb 2014 9:27am
Its interesting that the BBC has all but dropped the continued coverage now, in favour of Ukraine.

Speaking of Fracking, did you see this BBC report:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26271662

I was surprised to read

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D'Arcy Oil Exploration Company started drilling the Banks site at Formby Oil Field, in 1939 and produced 72,000 barrels of oil until abandoning the site in 1965
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