It's been a very emotional day today, some personal reasons and some because of news reports!

It started with the coverage of the Armistice Day Ceremony - watching the gentleman who wanted to place his own wreath made me weep, as did seeing the lads out in Afghanistan and the Ceremony in Ypres.

Then came the news report about the 17mth old boy and his injuries at the hands of his "incubator" - I can't call her his mother as no mother could sit back whilst that happened to her son - her boyfriend and the lodger!!

After that, came the 89 yr old man who was beaten by burglars, and his disabled wife who was found cowering and in shock and the couple in Lancashire who were found dead on their 55th wedding anniversary, not to mention the "man" who kicked his dog half to death in a lift!

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching the news years ago!

I know of several people who have been rather emotional today, and just wonder if anyone else is the same. Is it because of all the terrible things we are being exposed to or is it something in the air?

aww that poor fella laying the reaf was 112 years old! doesnt that make him born in 1896? wow...

I think as you get older you become more emotional. i know my mum does

cheer up jay, give tarrot a hug

that brought a tear to my eye!

Glad it's not just me then. As a rule, I'm not really an over emotional person, but this has been a harsh 24hours!

Maybe you're right Wheels, maybe it is just age getting the better of me. Tarot has been duly hugged and sends a kiss to Harvey.

I too have been through a rough time lately and the news on tv just seems to add to the grief. So I am ignoring it for now.

My dad had a brain haemorrhage on halloween Friday in the day. We weren't sure he'd make it to Saturday morning despite being transferred to the Walton Centre. They operated on the Saturday, removing the haemorrhage and the thing that caused it - an AVM.

But I am going to turn this sad thread around and say that despite it being one of the worst times of our lives as a family, there is good news. My dad is getting ready to come home in the next few days and had made what can only be described as a miraculous recovery. We feared the worst but he seems to be back to his normal self.

Also, my brother and his wife had a bouncing baby boy last Wednesday. Born by c-section he weighed in at 8lb 10oz.

Life - its good and its bad. It keeps us on our toes.

thoughts with you missguided! all the best to your dad and the baby! good size whats the babys name?

Thanks TC. Boy's name is Harrison.

just love babys harrison is so nice mine all in bed now!

mine still awake

best of luck girl!

I'm so glad your Dad made it through - He's lucky having such good daughters and a close knit family!! It makes all the difference!

Just sad that bad things happen to good people, while the bad people get away scott free.

I just hope that some of your Dads luck rubs off on my friend!

Welcome to the world little Harrison and Congrats to the proud Parents!

It just proves the old saying about swings and roundabouts. Bad news, good news. Very glad about your dad and the baby and my thorough hatred goes out to those "people" who tortured that poor child.

What I don't understand is why they can't be named? They are not under age are they?

glad your Dad has made a recovery miss. my thoughts are with your pop and famley.





that poor child how fukin sad
why have they only named the lodger (Jason Owen,36,)

I believe they are under 18 and the "sperm donor" cannot read or write, not sure if the "incubator" can either.

I'm all for naming regardless of age I'm afraid! Damn the PC Brigade!!

I'm with you on that especially as they named two ten year olds when they were found guilty of murdering James Bulger. What is the difference?

No difference IMO. But then don't get me started on that pair of evil barstewards!!

Now there's the incubator who has stabbed her 2 chilren to death - what the fcuk is this country coming to!!??!!

I do think that all those involved in both these cases should be brought to book over it as accessories to the crimes (not that it will happen of course). I mean, Russell Brand resigns, as does one of the staff that allowed the broadcast and Jonathan Ross is suspended over something that did not end in anyone dying yet nobody will be sacked over this!!

We keep hearing "lessons will be learned" but it seems that this is not the case. Seems like the teacher forgot to turn up to teach the lessons!!

Sorry - rant over.

They don't seem to learn in Haringey

Boy suffered more than 50 injuries over eight months of abuse, during which he was seen 60 times by health or social workers.

* Child had been on the child protection register of Haringey social services.

* Two days before the toddler died in August last year, a doctor failed to spot his broken back or ribs.

* Read and listen to the report of his injuries. Tips of fingers missing, fingernails ripped off, hole in his head, broken back, bruises, black eyes, the list goes on.


* Case has been described as worse than that of Victoria Climbie.

LASTEST NEWS, THURS 13TH NOV FROM THE TIMES

MOTHER HAS HAD ANOTHER CHILD WHILST ON REMAND

The mother of Baby P, the North London toddler who died after suffering horrific abuse, has given birth to another baby while on remand over the death.

The mother is reported to be taking legal action to gain access to her latest child. She has also told friends that she will be home in time for Christmas, a police source said.


From The TimesNovember 12, 2008

After 17 months of unimaginable cruelty, Baby P finally succumbed. When the infant known in court only as Baby P was brought home from hospital days after his birth in March 2006, it was as a bubbly, blue-eyed boy with the first signs of curly blond hair. He was, according to those who came into contact with him, a lively child with a ready smile.

After 17 months enduring abuse of an almost unimaginable cruelty, the boy had been reduced to a nervous wreck, his hair shaved to the scalp and his body covered in bruises and scabs. Physical injuries included eight broken ribs, a broken back and the missing top of a finger, while the emotional damage was almost incalculable. Despite it all, Baby P was said to have still attempted a smile.

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Hey guys just want to add my horror to these comments. Unfortunately this seems to be the way of the world these days. We have just had a very disturbing incident in Adelaide city centre we had a fight between refugees(kids 13,14,15) from Sudan at 3.30pm in the afternoon. One kid murdered, one seriously ill in hospital. The kid who did the murder had bought the knife about 15 mins before it kicked off, that was confirmed by the shop assistant - who never thought it was an issue that a 14yr old was buying a carving knife(what a d#$%head he is.) It is a brand new world, I feel sorry for my grandkids!!

Dave Downunder