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Posted By: chev_chelios £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 4:51pm
A WIRRAL man who dropped a cigarette butt
onto a pavement has been fined more than £500. The matter came before Birkenhead Magistrates
Court this week but the defendant, a Wallasey
resident, failed to attend. In his absence, he was fined £125 and ordered to
pay £385 in costs and a victim surcharge of £15 –
a total of £525. www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/9339362....issues_fine_over_dropped_cigarette_butt/
Posted By: Katryn Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 4:54pm
hows about the use all the money collected for street littering to clean up the pavements full of dog poop!!!!!

I they can have a team to eradicate chewing gum of the floor then why not dog poop!!!!!
Posted By: sean Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:00pm
why not have a team to eradicate the owners who don't clean the poop in the first place
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:00pm
What a joke.

Damn!
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:02pm
Good. Dropping ciggie butts is lazy, selfish and bad for the environment. If this money is put towards libraries, care for the elderly, children's centres etc then even better.
Posted By: chev_chelios Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:03pm
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Posted By: Brown_Horrocks Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:16pm
So, the £500 fine was not just for the littering but also for not appearing when required.

On the original subject, don't see why dropping a cigarette butt should be treated any differently to dropping any other litter, all littering is anti social
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:21pm
liverpool have got the right idea they have plenty of bins available with the place on top to stump them out, if this was sped up in wallasey it would make a big difference, not thast all will follow the rules, it drives me mad at ashville when i see people not using the sand bin a few steps away

as for the dog shitting, some horrible git walks his dog around ashville which is private property and allows it to shit on the pitch. an air rifle will be soon issued to shoot the owner and the dog if seen trespassing.....be warned haha
Posted By: Lord_of_the_M53 Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:25pm
ha ha serves them right should have paid the original £50
Posted By: ex0__ Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:25pm
The title for this thread is completely misleading.
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 5:33pm
How about a 10p extra charge on every ciggie? When you've finished with the butts [hahaha!] you can take them back to a central collection point where you get 9p for every butt. The other penny going to administrating the scheme. So 20 ciggie butts would get you £1.80. Only a fool would then throw a butt on the floor in the first place. And if they did, no doubt some homeless person would pick them up instead. Problem solved.
Posted By: Capt_America Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:25pm
If you drop it down a grid its not considered littering.
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:36pm
Yes it is.
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:39pm
i also wreckon to helpprevent this litter, welfare claimants should be paid in food tokens so they can not buy ciggys or alcohol, that would prevent this problem by 70% on the wirral alone
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:40pm
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
i also wreckon to helpprevent this litter, welfare claimants should be paid in food tokens so they can not buy ciggys or alcohol, that would prevent this problem by 70% on the wirral alone


raftl

Tony for election methinks laugh
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:41pm
all in good time ste haha
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:44pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
i also wreckon to helpprevent this litter, welfare claimants should be paid in food tokens so they can not buy ciggys or alcohol, that would prevent this problem by 70% on the wirral alone


raftl

Tony for election methinks laugh


Better hope the Angela Eagle thread doesn't get dug up then.
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:47pm
haha she can burn in hell as far as am concerned, although i have recieved a letter to attend a coffee morning on november 11th which i justmay go and ask her a few questions about her time as the wallasey mp and the things she has not done, but its the welfare followers that vote her in like i said before 70% to 30%
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:48pm
I voted for her but only because I despise the Tories. Certainly not to endorse her. Ahhh for some actual choice when it comes to elections.
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:49pm
there is always another vote, dont give her th vote its how she keeps getting back in
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:52pm
Well, at the last election in Wallasey we had a choice of:

Conservative [never, ever!!!]
Lib Dem [liars and wastes of space anyway]
UKIP [borderline fascists and basically to the right of the Tories]
Labour [just about least worst]

So no choice really.
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:55pm
good memory, have u read the ukip policies, they r fighting for the british people just not as idiotically as the bnp who have got no clue at all.

labour put us in to debt, then tories take us out of debt its been the same cycle since the end of the whigs. we need a new party to offer us stability
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 7:56pm
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
good memory, have u read the ukip policies, they r fighting for the british people just not as idiotically as the bnp who have got no clue at all.

labour put us in to debt, then tories take us out of debt its been the same cycle since the end of the whigs. we need a new party to offer us stability


little bit of thruth wouldnt hurt either
Posted By: yewgarth Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:16pm
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
liverpool have got the right idea they have plenty of bins available with the place on top to stump them out, if this was sped up in wallasey it would make a big difference, not thast all will follow the rules, it drives me mad at ashville when i see people not using the sand bin a few steps away
?
as for the dog shitting, some horrible git walks his dog around ashville which is private property and allows it to shit on the pitch. an air rifle will be soon issued to shoot the owner and the dog if seen trespassing.....be warned haha


You know why there aren't enough bins? Because they're all in New Ferry. There's so many bins that the Ferry should be like a hospital theatre, instead it's still a shit hole. Down any alley way you bags full of Lager cans, and scratchcards strewn all over the place!
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:23pm
Originally Posted by yewgarth
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
liverpool have got the right idea they have plenty of bins available with the place on top to stump them out, if this was sped up in wallasey it would make a big difference, not thast all will follow the rules, it drives me mad at ashville when i see people not using the sand bin a few steps away
?
as for the dog shitting, some horrible git walks his dog around ashville which is private property and allows it to shit on the pitch. an air rifle will be soon issued to shoot the owner and the dog if seen trespassing.....be warned haha


You know why there aren't enough bins? Because they're all in New Ferry. There's so many bins that the Ferry should be like a hospital theatre, instead it's still a shit hole. Down any alley way you bags full of Lager cans, and scratchcards strewn all over the place!


I seen a fella that kinda resembled bob Marley sitting on the bench outside tesco express in seacombe this morning with a blue bottle of frosty jacks swigging from it while people were taking kids to school.
On way back from petrol station he had gone and had left said bottle empty under the bench.

Seacombe is a shithole son, worse than new ferry!
Posted By: chev_chelios Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:37pm
frosty jacks thats posh lol
Posted By: Stingray Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:46pm
and throwing them from moving vehicles should get you 3 points as well!
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:48pm
Originally Posted by beer_money
frosty jacks thats posh lol


I think that's what it's called. Strong cider.

Originally Posted by Stingray
and throwing them from moving vehicles should get you 3 points as well!

Throwing anything from a moving car gets you 3 points, just the police choose not to use that power most of the time.
Posted By: chev_chelios Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:50pm
its not cider its fermented corn syrup. Yuk. 3 points for flicking a cig out the window!
Posted By: Tombraider Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:51pm
I saw a resident picking up a bag of rubbish from his garden.
Instead of putting it his wheelie bin he chucked it on the main road. somad
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:56pm
Originally Posted by beer_money
its not cider its fermented corn syrup. Yuk. 3 points for flicking a cig out the window!


Yes, it was some new law that came out a while back, anyone caught throwing litter from car windows risks getting a fine and points on their driving licence.
Posted By: Sarah_ZR Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 8:59pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
Originally Posted by yewgarth
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
liverpool have got the right idea they have plenty of bins available with the place on top to stump them out, if this was sped up in wallasey it would make a big difference, not thast all will follow the rules, it drives me mad at ashville when i see people not using the sand bin a few steps away
?
as for the dog shitting, some horrible git walks his dog around ashville which is private property and allows it to shit on the pitch. an air rifle will be soon issued to shoot the owner and the dog if seen trespassing.....be warned haha


You know why there aren't enough bins? Because they're all in New Ferry. There's so many bins that the Ferry should be like a hospital theatre, instead it's still a shit hole. Down any alley way you bags full of Lager cans, and scratchcards strewn all over the place!


I seen a fella that kinda resembled bob Marley sitting on the bench outside tesco express in seacombe this morning with a blue bottle of frosty jacks swigging from it while people were taking kids to school.
On way back from petrol station he had gone and had left said bottle empty under the bench.

Seacombe is a shithole son, worse than new ferry!
raftl !!!!
Posted By: chev_chelios Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 9:43pm
for tony lol [youtube]zdbdrOBXpMo[/youtube]
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 9:58pm
Gawd bless ya Angela! wink
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 10:09pm
not even gonna bother watching her she knocks me sick haha
Posted By: Tombraider Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 10:15pm
Originally Posted by beer_money
for tony lol [youtube]zdbdrOBXpMo[/youtube]
I thought that was a guy!
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 2nd Nov 2011 10:47pm
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Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 1:50pm
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Posted By: Handbag Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 2:02pm
I dont know what the hell is wrong with people, are personal remarks about people really necessary?
I have to say from personal experience that Angela is one of the hardest working MPs anywhere and unlike some others who I wont mention she actually cares about her constituents and doesnt just nod and shake her head in the right places, she actually gets out to her surgeries and does her job.

Not only that but during the expenses scandal she was also in the lowest 5% in the country, and yes I am a Labour party voter and bloody proud of it! all this 'we're in it together' is rubbish, none of them on the Government front bench have a clue they dont call it 'millionaire's row' for nothing!
Posted By: GothicAngel Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 2:08pm
I am a smoker myself - and to be honest I agree with the fines. I don't like to see fagbutts, or any type of litter on the floor...it makes Britain look unkempt just like all these benefit frauds your complaining about. Yes granted it is easier for me to just flick it on the floor, but now I dont, and it makes me appreciate things more.

As for the above comment - I can't comment. Apart from - how can you see it as acceptable that she was a part of the 'lowest 5%' in the country....she shouldn't have been a % at all.....just my opinion!
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 2:08pm
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nah mate she dosnt get enough done thats why eagle stays in, we need someone who will do something for the people not just for the welfare benefits people.
Posted By: Touchstone Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 2:13pm
Originally Posted by Handbag
I dont know what the hell is wrong with people, are personal remarks about people really necessary?
I have to say from personal experience that Angela is one of the hardest working MPs anywhere and unlike some others who I wont mention she actually cares about her constituents and doesnt just nod and shake her head in the right places, she actually gets out to her surgeries and does her job.

Not only that but during the expenses scandal she was also in the lowest 5% in the country, and yes I am a Labour party voter and bloody proud of it! all this 'we're in it together' is rubbish, none of them on the Government front bench have a clue they dont call it 'millionaire's row' for nothing!


I agree with most of what you say, Handbag. All my family have been Labour voters and my Grandad used to be a Councillor for Speke. This present government doesn't have a clue about how most people live. But then this is the Conservative party after all so the probably don't care anyway. Look at the systematic destruction of the mining communities in the 1980s. Decent, hardworking families thrown on the scrapheap by the Tories.

One of the problems with Eagle though is she exemplified the worst of New Labour under Brown and Blair. This was basically just a continuation of Tory policy. They did little or nothing for Wallasey or the Wirral. When did Eagle ever stand up to Brown or Blair? When did she ever demand a reverse of Thatchertie policies? As a socialist it was only my comtempt for the Tories that made me vote for Eagle in 2010. And I think that was the same for many people in Wallasey.
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 2:15pm
Originally Posted by Touchstone
Originally Posted by Handbag
I dont know what the hell is wrong with people, are personal remarks about people really necessary?
I have to say from personal experience that Angela is one of the hardest working MPs anywhere and unlike some others who I wont mention she actually cares about her constituents and doesnt just nod and shake her head in the right places, she actually gets out to her surgeries and does her job.

Not only that but during the expenses scandal she was also in the lowest 5% in the country, and yes I am a Labour party voter and bloody proud of it! all this 'we're in it together' is rubbish, none of them on the Government front bench have a clue they dont call it 'millionaire's row' for nothing!


I agree with most of what you say, Handbag. All my family have been Labour voters and my Grandad used to be a Councillor for Speke. This present government doesn't have a clue about how most people live. But then this is the Conservative party after all so the probably don't care anyway. Look at the systematic destruction of the mining communities in the 1980s. Decent, hardworking families thrown on the scrapheap by the Tories.

One of the problems with Eagle though is she exemplified the worst of New Labour under Brown and Blair. This was basically just a continuation of Tory policy. They did little or nothing for Wallasey or the Wirral. When did Eagle ever stand up to Brown or Blair? When did she ever demand a reverse of Thatchertie policies? As a socialist it was only my comtempt for the Tories that made me vote for Eagle in 2010. And I think that was the same for many people in Wallasey.


finally we agree on something, she is my reason for the hatred of the labour party, she has turned us into a shit hole yet she makes her way to the top row of the party for doing nothing!!!
Posted By: Brown_Horrocks Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 2:33pm
I am a floating voter, I have voted for all three main paties in general elections over the years.
I have never voted for a Labour member in local elections however as I just seem to get the impession that they don't offer good 'value for money' in terms of delivering local services.

As regards Angela Eagle, I would have to concur that she never seems to stick up for the interests of the local electorate, especially if it conflicts with the party line.

She writes a column for the Wallasey News and never does it highlight any local issues, she just uses it as a forum for criticising the national Government.
Posted By: Littlebear Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 4:05pm
Didn't know that cheap strong cider was fermented corn syrup.

Angela Eagle is an underachiever, she's done absolutely nothing apart from the odd lip service for a closing library when required. I hope she can take criticism, she's lazy.

I always used to flick my butts out of the window in the car, I don't now though. I've always put them in the bin when I'm out - you can time the end of the cig with passing a bin. There seems to be a problem with rubbish in the Wirral, and everywhere else, I think it's that people like to pick on smokers. Eg: any car park with a McDonalds in.
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 6:56pm
down with the ugly carpet munching gargoyle i say
Posted By: Katryn Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 3rd Nov 2011 8:05pm
true but what do you do about stray dogs left to roam???

Also Woodlands Park, Birkenhead seem's dog owners have decided that tying their dogs mess in bags to the park railings is the thing to do!!

Is disgusting there was recently about a dozen bags hanging from the railings!!!



EWW!
Posted By: kevinhit Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 4th Nov 2011 10:33pm
As the old saying goes, you cant polish a turd.


Originally Posted by yewgarth
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
liverpool have got the right idea they have plenty of bins available with the place on top to stump them out, if this was sped up in wallasey it would make a big difference, not thast all will follow the rules, it drives me mad at ashville when i see people not using the sand bin a few steps away
?
as for the dog shitting, some horrible git walks his dog around ashville which is private property and allows it to shit on the pitch. an air rifle will be soon issued to shoot the owner and the dog if seen trespassing.....be warned haha


You know why there aren't enough bins? Because they're all in New Ferry. There's so many bins that the Ferry should be like a hospital theatre, instead it's still a shit hole. Down any alley way you bags full of Lager cans, and scratchcards strewn all over the place!
Posted By: johnny Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 9th Nov 2011 10:39am
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
liverpool have got the right idea they have plenty of bins available with the place on top to stump them out, if this was sped up in wallasey it would make a big difference, not thast all will follow the rules, it drives me mad at ashville when i see people not using the sand bin a few steps away

as for the dog shitting, some horrible git walks his dog around ashville which is private property and allows it to shit on the pitch. an air rifle will be soon issued to shoot the owner and the dog if seen trespassing.....be warned haha


i understand your anger but to make a threat on a public forum involving a firearm id stupid
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 9th Nov 2011 10:46am
haha it was a bit of banter, we have laws that will be abided by, anybody walking on private land will be prosicuted and dog will go to doggy jail without bail
Posted By: BandyCoot Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 9th Nov 2011 12:40pm
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
down with the ugly carpet munching gargoyle i say


I think you are getting your carpet munchers mixed up with your bean flickers Tony. Next time she does the winky sign at Cameron he should do the bean flicker back at her. That would stop her but he wouldn't half be in the clag.
Posted By: HistoricalTony Re: £500 fine for a discarded cig butt - 9th Nov 2011 12:48pm
Originally Posted by BandyCoot
Originally Posted by HistoricalTony
down with the ugly carpet munching gargoyle i say


I think you are getting your carpet munchers mixed up with your bean flickers Tony. Next time she does the winky sign at Cameron he should do the bean flicker back at her. That would stop her but he wouldn't half be in the clag.


haha shout, she does look like a gargoyle tho, i seriously can not stand her, she is proper useless and has ruined wallasey, we are a shadow of our former self she just hammered the last few nails in the coffin
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