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Posted By: Anonymous New Way to Dispose Plaster - 3rd Sep 2009 4:53pm


Wirral council announces new way to dispose of plaster



WIRRAL Council is informing residents of a change to the disposal of plaster and plasterboard.

Merseyside Waste Disposal Authority (MWDA) has provided a separate gypsum container at its West Kirby site for local residents to use for the disposal of plaster and plasterboard.

Previously, gypsum waste such as plaster and plasterboard was deposited along with general rubble, but following a change in national Landfill Regulations this waste must now be managed separately.

Research by the Environment Agency has identified that gypsum put in landfill can lead to the production of toxic gas.

Therefore, residents are asked not put any plaster or plasterboard waste into their green general waste wheelie bins or their grey recycling bins.

Biffa crews will not be able to collect any bins containing plaster or plasterboard.

Any residents with plaster and plasterboard to dispose of can take it to a dedicated gypsum recycling container at West Kirby Household Waste Recycling Centre on Greenbank Road.

The waste will then be sent to a local processor and recycled for use in the cement industry.

Carl Beer, Director of MWDA, said: “We support the move by the Environment Agency to separate out this waste for recycling and recovery and we’re happy to follow their lead.

"It’s important that this waste is handled properly and we prevent potentially harmful substances from being generated further down the line."

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Posted By: paranoidballoon Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 3rd Sep 2009 7:00pm
Bloody Hell! when you think most of us are surrounded by it night and day.It reminds me of the way we went about asbesdos
Posted By: Shadow_Omega Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 3rd Sep 2009 7:03pm
this'll probably mean a 4th bin in my front garden. what colour is it gonna be? tranparanet? white?
Posted By: phalinmegob Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 3rd Sep 2009 10:43pm
Originally Posted by paranoidballoon
Bloody Hell! when you think most of us are surrounded by it night and day.It reminds me of the way we went about asbesdos


how do you think i feel, i sell the stuff for a living.. lol
Posted By: oggie Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 3rd Sep 2009 11:56pm
Originally Posted by phalinmegob
Originally Posted by paranoidballoon
Bloody Hell! when you think most of us are surrounded by it night and day.It reminds me of the way we went about asbesdos


how do you think i feel, i sell the stuff for a living.. lol

And I recycle it at Greenbank Rd

Chris.
Posted By: DavidB Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 4th Sep 2009 12:08am
Yeah but WHERE CAN I RECYCLE PLASTIC?!
Posted By: bert1 Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 4th Sep 2009 6:32am
Another little money spinner i think. Moved on so they can make cement out of it. I wonder if the council are going to give it to the cement company for nothing, i doubt it. So we do all the hard work, keeping it separated for them to easily take it to the cement company, the council will make money from it and sooner or later charge us for the separate dumping service. All because it can, not will, not does, but can give off a toxic gas when it rots, well so does a lot of other things, whats next? answers on a post card.
Posted By: paranoidballoon Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 4th Sep 2009 12:49pm
25% of the stuff can be reclaimed and used again to make virgin plaster-board, other than the cost of recovery the raw material is free.there are only five big players in the world who produce the stuff so there must be a cost gain in it. The carbon footprint "porky pie" is thrown in for good measure, I would love to see the figures for that.At the end of the day it makes sence if we all have a gain out of it,price, landfill jobs etc.
Posted By: insanekitty Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 4th Sep 2009 3:36pm
gotta get a permit for your van now as well even if its not trade waste.
thsy say it is free but that is just for now!
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 4th Sep 2009 6:57pm
Originally Posted by insanekitty
gotta get a permit for your van now as well even if its not trade waste.
thsy say it is free but that is just for now!
Anyone knows what happens when you hire a transit to take your junk to the tip?
Posted By: UrbanEx2U Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 4th Sep 2009 7:02pm
Yes you still need to phone up and get a permit for every trip to the tip from your house hold

What ever the vehicle
Posted By: oggie Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 4th Sep 2009 11:50pm
Originally Posted by bert1
Another little money spinner i think. Moved on so they can make cement out of it. I wonder if the council are going to give it to the cement company for nothing, i doubt it. So we do all the hard work, keeping it separated for them to easily take it to the cement company, the council will make money from it and sooner or later charge us for the separate dumping service. All because it can, not will, not does, but can give off a toxic gas when it rots, well so does a lot of other things, whats next? answers on a post card.


The council or more accurately the waste disposal authority gives The company I work for Veolia the licence to run the recycling centres.Our company has to pay to have the plasterboard and other recyclable stuff removed from the site,which is much less than the landfill tax the WDA is then billed for the removal.

As for the permit scheme check out the merseysidewda.gov.uk website that should tell you all you need to know.Not every vehicle will need the permit and trailers between 2mtrs and 3 mtrs will also need a permit.

Chris.

Permit scheme does not start until 1st of October.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 5th Sep 2009 1:14am
Thanks for that Oggie, it's great when we get insider gen!
Posted By: bert1 Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 5th Sep 2009 5:09am
In or around 1988 i had to apply for a waste carries licence, I think it cost £90 for 3 years, being a contractor at that time who had to dispose of rubbish it was pay up or face a fine of £2000 for illegally carrying waste, it didn't stop there, for the privilege of using the landfill site a fee of £23.50 had to be paid, it didn't matter whether you were tipping a bucket full or a van full. The alternative was to go to a private transfer station but the cost was more or less the same. The increase in fly tipping was phenomenal as it was when the Eric service was changed. I can only see another increase in illegal tipping. Further more will anyone being private or a contractor be expected to have different skips to keep plaster associated products separate from other building waste when doing building work. How much is this new permit scheme going to cost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: New Way to Dispose Plaster - 5th Sep 2009 2:37pm
Originally Posted by oggie


The council or more accurately the waste disposal authority gives The company I work for Veolia the licence to run the recycling centres.Our company has to pay to have the plasterboard and other recyclable stuff removed from the site,which is much less than the landfill tax the WDA is then billed for the removal.

As for the permit scheme check out the merseysidewda.gov.uk website that should tell you all you need to know.Not every vehicle will need the permit and trailers between 2mtrs and 3 mtrs will also need a permit.

Chris.

Permit scheme does not start until 1st of October.



Thanks for the info oggie. thumbsup
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