Burned Down - Woodside Hotel

Last Night,
Any one got any pics ?

Should still be smoking this morning

Ouch.. wonder what happened.. My guess is the kitchen as it was a complete mess..

bloomin eck!!

Anyone got a pic of it before is burnt down, For people like me who ain't got a clue what your on about lol

I think its the one facing the ferry on the one way at woodside.

If it is its been closed for ages.
If it is that one then i do have a picture somewhere.

this one mate ?

insurance job i think

i may jus drive past it, see the state its in now

probably, been on a steady decline for yrs

http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/w...17.0.fire_crews_called_to_hotel_fire.php

Ooops lol.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...its-hotel-on-waterfront-100252-21028327/

prime site to build on! just look what happend to the royal standded (st pauls road)

The thought does pass though your mind

Isn't it part of the waterfront redevelopment by peel holdings?

maybe peel holdings didn't give a big enough offer for it?

Bit late replying but heres a pic a took not so long ago of the Hotel.

lousy feckers could have had the decency to have a spectacular fire!

They could of let it burn to the ground rather...remove that eyesore from the front..lol

but then again...the scousers have to look at it now dont they....haha!

i didnt even know itr was empty!

that pub next to it will be the next victim

i was thinking that

i saw on the news last week that 23 pubs a day are closing down due to loss of sales.

well that shouldn't last long as ther'l b nowere to drink .. just think the ones that are sticking it out with the loss of sales will be minted in the end as there will be no compotition ... an sorry but thats deffo an insurance job when it was getting used for fuction rooms before january an all of a sudden wen its not .... it gets burnt down .. maybe im lien cud be some little kids.

Took this as i was passing

Couple of pictures from today

few more

eeek x

This is quite upsetting for me, We had a Wedding Evening Party there, so it holds nice memories for us.

my late aunties weddin reception was held there (a long while back mind)

thta looks painfull !

its part of the new changes for our waterfron, tats prolly why it been burnt, who reckons its gonna be demolished now?? i do to be honest, something else will be put there.....

most probably nikki, somethin more modern to go with the new plans etc

This is the usual trait of buildings on the Wirral. They lay vacant for months whilst deteriorating whilst the Council do bugger all...then...all of a sudden the building catches fire and has to be demolished..

...and up pops posh flats that are built on the former ground.

Surprised Liscard Hall, Central Park, hasn't gone up in smoke...yet.

Liscard Hall i believe has had fires in it though....

and yes i agree they do lay vacant for months, however i dont think its down to the council that these buildings are going up in smoke.....

i think that hotel was just due to be reburbished...what i think is....the owners were told to renovate it or it would be demolished (which meant owners lost money)...so the owners have took it upon themselves to do an inside job in setting it a blaze (bear in mind the heatspots were on all 3 floors..so someone went through the entire hotel and set each floor a light) so they could claim on insurance to get the place renovated...bingo everyone wins....

lol ok wise one .... haha ur peoberbly rite thou .... but dus everyone win if they find out its an insurance job there fooked.

Sadly it happens all the time - developers regularly leave buildings in a insecure state if they can't get permission to demolish them - oh dear someone has set fire to it and it has to demolished.

Most of the old warehouses on the quayside in Newcastle went this way, the King Eddy pub by the pier head in Liverpool was another one.

My patent solution - the owner of a building has a duty of care to preserve it - buildings left vacant, insecure and available to damage can be taken off the owners by the council and used to benefit the communitity. If that was implemented you'd massively see the rate of this sort of fire and vandalism drop!

yes, but although you would see vandilism drop and maybe drop the numbers in this sort of fire....

Would the council really pull their weight enough to keep areas and buldings the way they should be??

Personally I dont trust them enough, do you??

but...the Council then give the go ahead for planning permission straight away to local contractors then to build new houses / apartments but delays for months if it simply wanted to add a conservatory! The Council simply just sit back and wait...and wait for the building to simply become "unsafe". It's how most councils get round demolishing listed buildings.

The WBC just want to see more houses / flats built so that they can rake in more cash in council taxes! Down with the Coucil...well down with it!!

well to be honest its our whole government that want to rake in the money, not jus councils....but yeh good point, they do wait for them to be 'unsafe'....

but in some cases, it istn down to the council, as most derelict buildings do have owners.....which means its the owners that have took it upon themselves to do an insurance scam....

Here is a Youtube video of just some of the pubs which have closed down locally:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uK-zN2ipnxA

cool video mate good find

News Flash ,just been informed by somebody on the scene that the Woodside Hotel is once again on fire...

They've come back to finish the job!

just borrowed scott my camera too

source.. Daily post.

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Fire crews fight blaze at Woodside Hotel in Birkenhead
Aug 13 2008


Blaze at Woodside Hotel, Birkenhead

FIRE crews were battling a blaze at the empty Woodside Hotel in Birkenhead this afternoon.

The alarm was raised at 1.40pm.


A spokesman for Merseyside Fire and Rescue service said: "The first floor is well alight and there will be substantial damage".

In June tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage was caused in a fire at the hotel which was being treated as suspicious.

The site is a key element in a proposed multi-million pound regeneration of the Wirral waterfront area.

The site is a key element in a proposed multi-million pound regeneration of the Wirral waterfront area.Hmmmmmm ?

oooh hang on......columbo is onto something here..

lol

click hear-----> Woodside Hotel to be demolished after fire leaves building unsafe

Oh dear, we are surprised . . . NOT

Snod

Between the council (ping goes the spitoon again) and the developers, I smell a great pile of large furry rodents !!

Well if its THAT unsafe and structurally unsound, how come it is being a pig to demolish!!
My mates company is doing the demo, Total Demolition Services, and he was telling me they have had to bring in the BIG 30 tonne machine to do it. They were meant to do it by hand and powertools as it is close to the road, but they wernt effective enough!
Some structural surveyor eh? Kerching £££££££££ Council!!!!

wtf?
half of it has already been demolished!

something fishy about this 1,woodside hotel knocked down be persons named. then 2,the oil plant by the penny bridge also being knocked down by same people???

Some pictures from today (Satuday)

The front looks like nothing has happened but the middle of the building is well dead. Thought I would get these last memories.

If anybody wants hi-resolution piccies I will upload those, just ask.

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and more again

and finally

Thanks for those pics diggingdeeper. Another bit of history slams into the buffers !!!!

I wonder if the developers who owned it were owned by Peel Holdings.....

Sad to see this happen Seems like Heritage and History mean nothing when up against the demon that is money!!

MissGuided - Please wash your mouth out with Carbolic Soap NOW !!
This is a family show. Peel Holdings indeed! Absolutely disgusting. How can you stoop so low as to mention them ? I'm surprised at a decent, educated person like you even knowing the words Peel Holdings. Oops, I've said it again. Sorry !!

I was shocked to know that they own the Port of Liverpool!!! I know this may have been common knowledge but was not to me.

So who's for a massive shopping mall on Bidston Moss? Don't believe me?

"A new 571,000 sq ft Retail and Leisure Quarter at Bidston Moss.
The first of its type in the UK to feature classical architecture, bringing a more pleasant feel than traditional retail parks.
The new retail and leisure quarter will build on the success of existing retail facilities that already surrounds Bidston Moss and introduce pedestrian and cycle routes making the new facilities accessible to all.
A new hotel, foodstore, health and fitness facility and homestore will be built, along with new shops, bars and restaurants that together will bring a much needed evening economy to the area, making it a vibrant place to be, day or night."

http://www.peel.co.uk/peelholdings/source/newsdetails.asp?type=1&page=1&newsid=122

You'd be amazed where they have their grubbly little mits!!

Peel Holdings = developer mafia

My friend's son works as a driver for a haulage firm not far from here. He's been doing the same job for yonks. A big transport firm but most folk have been there for years. (No names-no pack drill). All going along smoothly - even considering the downturn in business of late. All well that is until those hated f***wits PEEL HOLDINGS took the firm over !

In comes a little t**t with MBA quals. and tickets up to his rectum - but no knowledge of the haulage industry. All sorts of vicious conditions laid out (no if's & but's) You WILL do XYZ or you are OUT !

Previously, drivers had gone that extra mile to ensure the customers were happy. No longer. Bare minimum done to comply and not an gnat's crotchet over the legal hours worked.

Oh - just remembered. What was the outfit who evicted the historic warships out of B'head docks ? .....PEEL HOLDINGS of course, so they can charge megabucks for their new trendy dockside apartments ! Can't have the docks cluttered up with SHIPS !!!!

Excuse me.... I'm going to throw up !!

Yikes - careful Pinz you'll blow a gasket!

ha.ha. You could be right there MissGuided. Safety valves starting to blow. First wisps of steam coming out of ears. Pressure 500psi and rising !!!!!.........

I do like a man who says what he feels and really means - a rare quality these days!!!

Good on ya Pinz - keep going but mind the blood pressure

My dad always used to say the blowing gasket thing when I tried to hold in a sneeze. We're a family of shouting sneezers, which means you'll hear us sneeze a few roads away

thats right get it off your chest!

why is it when i sneeze former celebrities come out?

its the attack of the surrealist clown !!

Because you are very very strange and have a giant hooter!!

Giant hooter attacks Woodside Hotel thread!!

This is getting silly. I'm going to put some more lard on the cat's boil.

good point

The goat's not been well either.

I'm lost

Monty Python !! Quotes from.

Sterilse the straight jacket !!

Who is Mrs Murphy?

Mrs Murphy was a simple working woman who was boiling up a big cauldron of Chowdah to feed her loving hubby when he came home from a hard day at the sewage works. While her back was turned, some nasty bas***d lobbed his overall's into the pot.

Sorry, got to go - the cat's expecting a headache!

She's the woman who made the chowder. She fainted on the spot, For she found a pair of overalls In the bottom of the pot

where have I been not to have heard this tale of treachory?

Mmmm.. and the original thread here was .....? Sorry going very OT.

Seriously.. (ho.bloody ho) Many moons ago I used to work on the lighthouses. On one station was a guy who was from Fazackerley. Just known as Black Jack (rarely washed). He would in the evening, put his feet up on the Aga stove. He would puff away on his pipe (with some evil baccy mixture in it) staring silently at the ceiling for ages. After a while, he would come out with " Mmmmmmmmmm...the thing is .............. who put the overalls in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ?" This simple, but crazy question was guaranteed to have the 3 (always 3 keepers on the offshore lights) of us convulsed. Black Jack has probably popped his clogs by now as he was quite a bit older than me.

It's a phrase that just stuck with me over the years. I think most of my bent sense of humour was picked up on my years on the lights.

Anyway.... what the hell are you doing in on a Saturday night ??

It's from a song that the kids used to be taught in school apparently.

Ahhh.. I learn something new every day !

I am deeply grateful to be conversing with a soul who used to man lighthouses - what an immense thing this is (not the gin talking). Really it is amazing, because they decided that so many lighthouses could be automated. I was down at Trwyn Du (Black Point) on Anglesey a few weeks ago and I was amazed by the thing. It rings a bell every 30 seconds and flashes a light too, because if you try to pass between the mainland and Puffin Island you are shafted!

I'd quite like the job of a lighthouse keeper - no ASBO neighbours for starters!!

You know why they had 3 keepers don't you?
Smalls Lighthouse
"The Smalls is one of the most remote offshore lighthouses in the UK and home to extraordinary stories. The first message in bottle was sent from here and an incident here involving two lighthouse keepers brought about a change in the way lighthouses were run forever.

The couple, Howell and Griffith, were quarrelsome and when Howell unexpectedly died one night, this left Griffith with the worry that he would be blamed for the death. He made a coffin and lashed the body to the outside of the lighthouse but storms picked up and no help was able to come to them for some weeks by which time Griffith had gone mad - making the lighthouse authority decide that there should always be three men stationed on lighthouses from then on in.

The lighthouse is managed by Trinity Lighthouse, and cannot be visited"
Taken from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/coast/programmes/03-bristol-cardigan-bay.shtml

I'd love to live in a Lighthouse. It's a shame they automated them - just not the same in my eyes.

That's a great bit of information Suzy - looks like something else for me to investigate tomorrow I wonder how many are actually still manned now.

Spot on ! Yes, the Smalls was one of the best lights to be on - as long as you were on with a good crew. Was on most of the north/west wales lights. Trwyn Du has always been unmanned (as far as I know). Light and bell worked by acetylene gas. Used to have "No passage landward" painted on the sides.

Don't get me started on the lighthouse stories. I'll be up all night and you'll be ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !

I think we had better pull the plug on this one now or the mods will be saying naughty things about going off topic. Worthy of General Chat tomorrow maybe ??? Someone gave me a bottle of Arran Single Malt yesterday, so I'm going to test some of it now and depress myself with reading today's papers !

Signing off.

Sorry back again. PaganJay - none are now manned. All are automated. (The bast***s)

Boooo!! Thank you for that Pinz - you're a star x

So "Mrs Murphy's chowdah" wasn't one of Black Jack's original thoughts ? Gutted ! Never realised it was an existing tune.

Think I'm going to have to get a new signature. There's me thinking it was (almost) original. Poo !

walked past today flat as a pancake!

Woodside Hotel taken a few months ago

Good pic Ghostly, do you mind if I pinch it, for personal use, I had my wedding party there in 2005 and have no pictures of the outside.

Help yourself! its not that good like, the panaoramic thingy never works for me....and i just realised thats the second time i posted that sorry got slighlty carried away there.

Well, according to this site http://www.peachdevelopments.co.uk/ they're in partnership together.
coincidence? who knows.

I nearly had a heart attack when I saw that username scoops

Any particular reason or is it just a case of "eek a new name"?

What ever happened to Scoop?

An old member who used to post all the time

see member number 4 in the members list

But thats off topic

Right, gotcha.
And back to the topic.
Another interesting coincidence, the people who used to own the Woodside also owned Stairways, which also burned down

Stairways burned down i didnt realise that

Yeah it was gutted. It's currently being re-furbed but rumour has it that it's going to be offices.

No way!! It was always a fire-trap so why does it surprise me? I was just wondering what that place might still be like the other day. I even thought about going lol Saved by a fire lol