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Posted By: Dave100e Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 14th Jul 2008 7:48pm
Hello. Only just got on here. Youve probably seen me about though.

My cars a 1962 100e with a 2.1 Pinto and 5 speed box. Heres a spec list and a few pictures....

Engine : Transit Pinto block, bored to roughly 2090cc with higher comp pistons. Big valves (not sure on the size but ive been assured theyre huge), Polished and ported head. Rally spec cam. 38dgas carb (from a 3.0 capri). 4-2-1 manifold. I did have a side exit exhaust with no silencers but it failed on MOT for flames so i had a friend build up a custom system with a resonator on the middle and a small middle box for a back box. Omex Rev limiter with a flashy red light too happy

Transmission : 5-speed Capri/Sierra gearbox pulled from a rally mk2 escort. Unknown ratios, but the gap between 1st and 2nd has been filled so its always in powerband. RS2000 3.54 diff in a standard mk1 Cortina axle case and shafts.

Suspension : Front is adjustable coilovers conversion, rear is cortina multileaf springs and adjustable Spax shockies.

Brakes : Capri 2.8 calipers and vented discs up front, Cortina GT 8" drums out back.

Wheels : Im unsure what to use at the moment, but on it is a pair of 13x5" escort steels and a pair of 13x5.5" Alleycats. Ive got some comsics to paint up and im after a set of 5.5" escort steels to paint black.

Interior : Ally doorcards and dash panels etc. Loads of dials and gauges, most of which dont work. The original speedo which stops at 80 but is a novelty in its own right. MG Metro seats on adjustable rails. Odd harnesses. Pretty stripped out apart from all the rubbish that collects in it.

Ive had nothing but trouble from it. Pulled a ballstud out of the head, blown up 2 diffs, snapped two alt brackets, broken coils etc etc but its worth it.

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Posted By: Wheels Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 14th Jul 2008 7:50pm
wow that car is awesome! not had the fortune to see it frown
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 14th Jul 2008 10:15pm
I've seen you twice! Did you do this yourself?
Are you keeping the Pinto? Binned mine immediately when I got my kitcar!
Posted By: MGCraig Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 14th Jul 2008 10:43pm
Awesome bit of kit. Love seeing the older cars being run...

Im shocked no-one has a Mk I or Mk II Escort tho...


Also, the Pinto is a bit heavy...Nothing else tickle ur fancy??
Posted By: Mondeo_Scott Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 14th Jul 2008 10:58pm
this car sounds great dude nice one good to see some of the classics out and about happy


Originally Posted by Mi_Craig
Also, the Pinto is a bit heavy...Nothing else tickle ur fancy??


but i do agree wid craig the pinto is a tad on the heavy side sure theres sumit out there a bit lighter and produces similar power
Posted By: MGCraig Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 14th Jul 2008 11:21pm
I havent a clue bout dimensions and depths for yur 100 etc...but Ive always loved old fords with a redtop vauxhall engine shoved down there...lovely bit of grunt when ya need it
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 15th Jul 2008 8:24am
Ive seen the car a few times.

IMO the Pinto is a good choice smile Its fairly tunable and should see near 200bhp with oversized valves, big carbs and set up right.

As its on carbs it means theres no fancy electronics and ECU, which where obviously never fitted to the original car which keeps it nice and simple, and proper old school smile
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 15th Jul 2008 11:21am
You'd spend more on the Pinto than if you put a VTEC or XE in there. Anything over 150 bhp and you're talking new head every 1000 miles, the valve geometry is fooking awful. Ask any Ford tuner about those 8v Pintos. thumbsdown
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 15th Jul 2008 3:54pm
Yeah, the pinto isnt the greatest of engines but it is fairly torquey and if built right, fairly reliable. The problem with mine now is that if i wanted to make more power id need a pair of 45's or 48's which i havnt got space for, and id need more revs, and the standard bottom end cant handle any more then 7500rpm, and even then only in bursts. So id need to drop a few grand on steel internals and itd just render the whole thing far too expensive. My long term plan is a cossie yb turbo if funds allow, or an SR20 turbo. If im fitting another engine i may aswell use something turbocharged with easy power compared to NA.

But to defend the Pintos which are a good engine, i know of 8 valvers out there, with all the little niggles like valve geometry and correct porting and every single little detail, on a pair of 44idf's making 230bhp, not bad for a near 40 year old engine. And even it up with a warrior 16v head and 300bhp is easy, 350bhp on itb's and a good setup....... but we are talking £30k plus.

I never did the engine swap. When i bought the car most of the major work was done. I saw it by chance on ebay looking for a 24v cossie to bung into my mk1 cortina and fancied it. Ive basically made the car more reliable, and finished a lot of the jobs that the last owner bodged up.
Posted By: NEWBOY Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 15th Jul 2008 4:04pm
Cosworth? Thats a pinto engine with 16v head, plenty can be done there.
Posted By: jonny boy Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 15th Jul 2008 5:13pm
allo their dave, smile its jon with the black an flaked 100e...

not seen you since the party, ya diff still going strong then wink

am gonna back the pinto's too, their a cracking engine for pound to horsepower expense
i'd go with a pinto over a XE or zetec anyday, albeing because of the cost of the conversion parts for the xe still being on the high side

x-flow all the way for me smile lol

jon

Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 15th Jul 2008 5:59pm
Yeah its holding up so far but its starting to get a bit clunky. Just need to look after it.

Yeah, conversion parts cost more then the engine itself. And i was a big crossflow fan myself until i got the pinto. If mine wasnt an everyday drive id stick a screaming crossflow in there but id miss the torque otherwise.

Hows the pop? Are you keeping it at all?
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 15th Jul 2008 6:51pm
It's nice to see something older on the road these days, you get bored of all the injection moulded plastic rep mobiles, I'm no fan on new cars at all.
I saw you in Upton Shell petrol station a couple of months ago, and then saw you take off the line at the traffic lights in opposite Birkenhead Market (when there were a lot of people around). It was very loud.

I still have my Pinto sat in the garage. I'm sure I'll never ever use it, and it's in the way, so if you break something... smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 17th Jul 2008 10:19am
thats a nice classic you have there bud. not a fan ov the new cars me self.i have to agree with (StuyMac) the Pinto is a good choice no fancy electronics and ECU keeps it nice and simple, and proper old school yomama
Posted By: MGCraig Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 17th Jul 2008 11:51am
I do have a soft spot for the Pinto must admit...

My only beef is that the 1600 Kent Formula Fords Ive worked on have been much faster than Sports 2000 cars... which on paper should be faster etc etc...(2.0L Pinto)

Sports 2000...

Formula Ford 1600
Posted By: jonny boy Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 17th Jul 2008 4:04pm
Originally Posted by Dave100e

Hows the pop? Are you keeping it at all?


am gettin rid of it, needs to go unfortunately frown ... gutted to say the least.

I want £1800ovno, cos its got lots of brand new parts on it, the motors got new everything on it, and the body and chassis is in mint condition.
so spread the word if you know anyone interested.... wink
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 17th Jul 2008 4:41pm
Aww, keep it and get rid of the saxo, use the money off the saxo for a zetec or redtop swap, or even a 24v cossie.

I did take nathan (the lad in st helens) out for a drive in mine, and convinced him to buy yours but i dont know whether he called or not. Im trying to get my brother interested but i dont think hes after it.

Try old skool ford, im sure it wont stay up on there long.
Posted By: spinking Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 17th Jul 2008 8:04pm
Originally Posted by StuyMac
Ive seen the car a few times.

IMO the Pinto is a good choice smile Its fairly tunable and should see near 200bhp with oversized valves, big carbs and set up right.

As its on carbs it means theres no fancy electronics and ECU, which where obviously never fitted to the original car which keeps it nice and simple, and proper old school smile


Guess you have never tuned a pinto then stu noonoo hard engines to sune matey my stockcar was a bored 2.1 pinto kent cams and 45's and still wasnt quick raftl

Great motor matey havnt seen it yet but looking forward to it.

Posted By: jonny boy Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 18th Jul 2008 4:05pm
Originally Posted by Dave100e
Aww, keep it and get rid of the saxo, use the money off the saxo for a zetec or redtop swap, or even a 24v cossie.

I did take nathan (the lad in st helens) out for a drive in mine, and convinced him to buy yours but i dont know whether he called or not. Im trying to get my brother interested but i dont think hes after it.

Try old skool ford, im sure it wont stay up on there long.


nah cba wit old skool/hotrods, i've had 5 years of it now, need a break from it lol

i want a few lil creature comforts lol

no you're mate never rang, txt him the price if he's still interested happy

gonna take some pics of it this weekend, and stick it up on all the forums etc then maybe ebay as a last resort boohoo
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 18th Jul 2008 5:11pm
Fair dos. Youll miss it though when its gone. Wouldnt you have a mk3 capri? Creature comforts like heaters and window wipers and you can fit a phat v8 in there easy.

Yeah ill speak to him. Im trying to persuade my brother but i think my mum n dad are sorting him something out a bit newer. Its gauranteed hes going to crash within a week of driving so he may aswell be in something with airbags and that.

As i said, it wont stay on osf for long i dont think.
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 31st Jul 2008 4:09pm
Here are a few update pictures. The cortina was mine but it my dads now, and its in the bodyshop atm getting some panels and a respray. Its going to be black instead of red with the gold stripe.

I keep getting abuse for the spotlights too. Im sure everyone would understand if their main beam was actually dimmer then their sidelights. But ive stuck some 100w bulbs in there and they do their job for the country lanes and thats all i ask.

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Posted By: spinking Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 31st Jul 2008 7:13pm
Looking good matey.

Love the tina
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 31st Jul 2008 8:29pm
looking good bud ;)love The cortina happy
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 31st Jul 2008 9:04pm
Can't you get HID headlights? Surely they do them for the mk2 escorts?! I'm not too keen on those fog lights. frown

The bloke who owns the scrapyard in Hooton has a black mk2 Cortina which has been stood for a couple of years. He was seeing if I would buy it (along with a 100e and some parts) for something like 1k, when I was after the axle. It's still in there! Cortina looks really nice.
Posted By: MGCraig Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 31st Jul 2008 10:27pm
Yes Yes Yes...That Cortina is the sex....

Dude, the spots wouldnt be too bad if they were incorporated into the front. When theyre on, the make the car look Hotroddy...

I really really could do with an Old School Ford, but I dunno if I could give it the time and the effort it would deserve...
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 2nd Aug 2008 8:27pm
Originally Posted by Station
Can't you get HID headlights? Surely they do them for the mk2 escorts?! I'm not too keen on those fog lights. frown


You can get them but i havnt got £180 to drop on them. Moneys tight at the moment, dont know if ill be in a job or not come september, otherwise id get some halo mini lights. Right now they serve their purpose happy
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 3rd Aug 2008 3:56pm
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Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 5th Aug 2008 9:40pm
Nah, i think theyre too big and would look even worse. I think they only really suit rallied up stuff with big arches and stickers with screaming twin cam engines.

If anyone saw me on sunday they wouldve heard my car. It was running on three cylinders as it somehow threw a rocker arm off. When i took the cover off all 4 inlet ball studs where loose. The gaps werent too bed but they were loose. I only did them about 4 months ago too. So i redid all the gaps and bloody hell its a total different car now. Its as if ive fitted sound deadening inside, and it pulls so much better then before. Im a happy chappy now.
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 5th Aug 2008 9:42pm
Had it been loosening over time? Sounds just like a Pinto!
Posted By: oxtonmac Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 12th Aug 2008 10:53pm
Ice cool mate may not be a rollin in money statment but defo got class and respect ... not seen it on retro rides nor the mk1 corty.Not even seen it around the wirral!!!

I First started driving in a mk1 cortina 1500 super ,,,ahh brings back memories of clear roads no cameras or speed bumps
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 13th Aug 2008 7:14am
Loving that Cortina matey smile

HIDs can be had for under £50 now, though I expect its more the age of the lense on your car that makes the lights so poor, rather than the bulb inside frown
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 16th Aug 2008 4:01pm
Yeah, loosened up over time mate. Ill have to start doing them every 3 months.

Im not on retro rides but ive been on and had a blip through a couple of time. The Cortinas lovely. The handling is immense. The last owner tracked it and the setup is something else. Its been prepped and going for paint in the week. If my Dad doesnt change his mind again itll be in radiant red with the gold stripes.

Your right StuyMac. The lenses are VERY old. Im not arsed though. You dont need them these days with street lights everywhere, you only need them for lanes and such.

My clutch master cylinder went on tuesday so i changed it for a wilwood one. Now i think its blown a seal or split a pipe on the slave cylinder. Gearbox out job frown

Cars up for sale now. Im after something faster after a ride in that sierra cossie at the races. Been looking at Saab 9000 2.3 Turbos. Im after about 350-400bhp and i like the fact the Saabs makes silly torque to match even with relatively low boost (like 600nm with 370bhp!!!)
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 21st Aug 2008 8:58pm
Quick update. Clutch isnt fixed which is why i havnt been out. Need to fix it over the weekend though cause i need the car on tuesday for work.

However, someones offered me a straight swap on a Sierra sapphire RS Cossie with 286bhp on low boost, 320 on a higher setting and dyno proven on a very recent rebuild (YB's cost the better side of £1000 to rebuild). Ill have to wait till december to insure it but itll give me time to hang a t3 off the side of it and wind the boost up a bit more.
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 21st Aug 2008 9:45pm
Do you have a type-9?
Personally I'd stick with your 100e, they had one with a YB in a past Retro Ford mag, it's crying out for it!
Posted By: MrPhil Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 22nd Aug 2008 5:51am
Originally Posted by Dave100e
Quick update. Clutch isnt fixed which is why i havnt been out. Need to fix it over the weekend though cause i need the car on tuesday for work.

However, someones offered me a straight swap on a Sierra sapphire RS Cossie with 286bhp on low boost, 320 on a higher setting and dyno proven on a very recent rebuild (YB's cost the better side of £1000 to rebuild). Ill have to wait till december to insure it but itll give me time to hang a t3 off the side of it and wind the boost up a bit more.


Saff's have a T3 as standard....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 22nd Aug 2008 11:17am
I'd stick with your 100e
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 23rd Aug 2008 12:42pm
Yeah ive got a type 9. The gearbox tunnel is cut big enough for a type 5 though. Id love to stick a yb in but i havnt got the cash.

Id stick something bigger then a t3 on then. Turbos and yb's are a new thing to me at the moment. Apparently it has a 4x4 turbo on it now.

Id like to keep the 100e but its just not fast enough anymore. I need more powers. Ive also been offered an RS Turbo S1 so im awaiting specs on it incase the insurance doesnt work out on the cossie.
Posted By: DavidB Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 23rd Aug 2008 1:45pm
I'd go for the S1 if it's tidy, I've seen them go for a bit.
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 23rd Aug 2008 4:33pm
The Cossies had a few different turbos, the 2WD had a small T3, and the 4x4 had a bigger T3.

Small turbo Escort Cossie had a T25, and the early ones had a T34 which is the turbo to have.

You dont really need much bigger than a T34 - they will support up to 350bhp, more if you get special internals fitted - Hybrid style wink

Sierra Cosworth all day for me if its a tidy one smile
Posted By: MrPhil Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 23rd Aug 2008 7:15pm
A good time to buy a Saff, Get yourself 8k and you can have this.....

http://www.passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=214105
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 2nd Sep 2008 8:53pm
Cars going on Sunday. Im driving down to Trax and me an a few mates are making a day of it there and then we'll swap before we leave. Im going to miss it, i really am, but on to faster things.

Heres a little spec list, but ill start a proper thread when ive got it.

1985 Series 1 RS Turbo. BVH, big cam, ported + polished, different ecu, double capacity intercooler, stage 1 hybrid T3, still got the LSD and an upgraded clutch. Spax adjustables, cossie discs out back with S2 up front. H reckons its worth about 180 brake but ill get it dyno'd as soon as i can. Plans are for a bigger turbo, remap, uprated gearbox with a long overdrive for cruising, those big diamond cut 16" or 17" RS wheels and about 250bhp.

And then ill probably sell it in 6 months time like i always do.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 2nd Sep 2008 9:44pm
i had a 9000 2.3 turbo mate, they aint that quick frown
Posted By: Dave100e Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 3rd Sep 2008 4:00pm
As standard theyre not, but you can wring silly numbers from them, especially the torque. I looked at one making 370bhp and 650nm of torque.
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 3rd Sep 2008 4:02pm
WTF omg

Thats some serious torque!!
Posted By: MrPhil Re: Dave100e : Ford 100e Popular - 3rd Sep 2008 4:15pm
Change the master brake cylinder for a series 2 aswell as they have a 2mm upgrade from the series 1/3i etc. much better braking.

Do you have the reg for the series 1? might not/might be on the series 1 register.

what ecu is it?
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