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Posted By: Maccakevin Car re-spray - 12th Jan 2012 7:21pm
How much would it cost to have my car re sprayed. It looks like its had a paint job in the past but paint is just peeling off. I'm not after show winning job just something that will polish up nice on a budget.
I'm in no rush just after some ideas as havnt a clue and have loads of other jobs to do on car yet. The car is 83 Porsche 944 and looks pretty straight with no rust.
Posted By: Paintboffin Re: Car re-spray - 12th Jan 2012 7:31pm
That's a bit like asking how long is a piece of string.
It will depend on the state existing paintwork and if its had any repairs done to it etc.
If it has had a respray in the past and an unknown paint finish it will need sealing, Best to take it to a body shop and ask for a quote.

PB
Posted By: 1971efc Re: Car re-spray - 12th Jan 2012 7:48pm
a piece of string is twice as long as half its length,,,,,,,, sorry but i just couldn`t resist that one lol
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Car re-spray - 12th Jan 2012 8:03pm
If the paints peeling off it's due to not being prepped correctly.

How much do you wanna spend and I'll have a word with my painter?

Do you know anything about bodywork?

(ie, to get costs down could you do any of the work as there's a lot more involved than you think).
Posted By: Maccakevin Re: Car re-spray - 12th Jan 2012 8:47pm
I really don't know what it costs, and the car is a good 12 months from this stage I'm just putting the feelers out to get some ideas and yes I'd have a go at prep if I had some pointers.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Car re-spray - 12th Jan 2012 8:51pm
Don't forget these are galvanised. If any paint is stripped back to the Zinc, it needs etch primer to stick to it.
Posted By: Chorizo Re: Car re-spray - 12th Jan 2012 9:42pm
Soro hijack but ste can you ask how much to paint the whole side of an Alfa 147. It's had a spray job before I got it and it's a different colour from the rest of the car so looks poor.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Car re-spray - 13th Jan 2012 9:09am
Originally Posted by Chorizo
Soro hijack but ste can you ask how much to paint the whole side of an Alfa 147. It's had a spray job before I got it and it's a different colour from the rest of the car so looks poor.


Is it red?

Need to know the colour, to be honest I got a full respray on my Astra because it was red, you can never get the colour to match and if you do you will always notice it because the old paint will always go dull before the new paint.
I changed my red to a ford red (flame I think), the paint used will never oxidise so it will never go dull or white.

Also need to know if it's metallic?
Posted By: delta6 Re: Car re-spray - 13th Jan 2012 10:25am
Originally Posted by Maccakevin
How much would it cost to have my car re sprayed. It looks like its had a paint job in the past but paint is just peeling off. I'm not after show winning job just something that will polish up nice on a budget.
I'm in no rush just after some ideas as havnt a clue and have loads of other jobs to do on car yet. The car is 83 Porsche 944 and looks pretty straight with no rust.


alright ya rat!!
told you you should have got an evo 2 integrale!!

speak to ryan - he'll give you an idea and will help with the prep.
Posted By: Maccakevin Re: Car re-spray - 13th Jan 2012 12:33pm
Ha ha there would be nothin left but rust by know mate. It he still living in moreton. Has he got garage.
Posted By: Chorizo Re: Car re-spray - 13th Jan 2012 1:16pm
No its not red its kind of silvery blue and yes it is metallic. It just looks like whoever painted it did a poor job of matching the colour. The rest of the car has a nice shine to it but that side is kind of matt look.
Posted By: Paintboffin Re: Car re-spray - 13th Jan 2012 8:13pm
Originally Posted by Chorizo
No its not red its kind of silvery blue and yes it is metallic. It just looks like whoever painted it did a poor job of matching the colour. The rest of the car has a nice shine to it but that side is kind of matt look.


If it has been repainted before and the paint is dull and peeling its pointless trying to polish it up and you will have to remove it, however that's quite easy to do with a DA sander and you'll only need to remove the outer new painted layers.
It will be very unlikely to necessitate taking it down to bare metal.
It will be a lacquered finish over a metallic base which should not fade so it sounds to me like the repaint has been poorly done. Again one would need to see it to accurately diagnose the correct procedure regard to making the paintwork good, I could have a look if you like but I'm unable to offer a respray at home, Although I do work on the occasional car but they are usually vintage.
Modern metallic paint finishes are always easer to match contrary to what people think because you blend the base colour into the adjacent panel and lacquer that, straight colours are a bit more problematic because you usually have to do a panel to panel.

If you can provide me with the colour code I will be able to tell you how many shades or colour variant are available in that particular colour.
The Porsche paint colour code should be shown on the bulkhead, the "A" post or the door shut and will probably start with an L.
For example if is was Schwarzblue Met the code would be L.32.N or maybe POR.32N.

PB
Posted By: DavidB Re: Car re-spray - 13th Jan 2012 9:13pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
Is it red?


Vauxhall Flame Pink!
The door and the body on the car are the 'same colour' allegedly - not under street lighting it isn't, lol.

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It's metallic, so it's tricky to paint - try getting some G3 from a car paint shop (APC in New Ferry) and polish it down. It's a cutting compound and will take a microscopic layer of paint off, the one that looks horrid. Then polish and wax it. Always wash with car shampoo, and then do the polish and waxing part to prevent further deterioration to the paint work. smile

I used to use Mr Sheen after doing it sometimes, it really does work very well. laugh
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Car re-spray - 13th Jan 2012 9:23pm
The Porsche is probably Sapphire (LY5V) from the year and model if it is still the original colour.

Colour code might be on a piece of paper under carpet at boot rear panel.

Should look like this (which is mine - which was originally Sapphire).



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Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Car re-spray - 15th Jan 2012 6:02pm
Whoops .... was getting the Alpha mixed up with the Porsche on this thread - disregard the Sapphire colour unless by sheer fluke it is a metallic bluey silver.
Posted By: delta6 Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 10:21am
Originally Posted by Maccakevin
Ha ha there would be nothin left but rust by know mate. It he still living in moreton. Has he got garage.


oi i'll burst you!!
yeah hes in moreton and will be able to sort something out for you.
give us a text and i'll send you his number.
porsche 944 against an integrale - i can see a nice little wager coming on!!
Posted By: Maccakevin Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 10:47am
No it's light bronze will have a look for codes thanks.
Posted By: Nelzy84 Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 1:38pm
Auto Accident Repair in Wallasey

PM if you need details, Vinny vanquish and a few others can vouch for the work, majority of work is aimed at Prestige market, AM's, Labbo, Porkas, ferraris etc but also do project cars

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Last car used to belong to Bett Middler took over a year to restore and had a full magazaine article written up belongs to Griffo who owns the funeral home in Wallasey

Before and after pic below (it was literally a shell to start with)

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Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 2:07pm
I'm good with a spray can, no shit!
Posted By: Nelzy84 Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 2:09pm
Hahah Ste, my cousins the same, he's convined you can get the same finish with a rattle can, probably why he's now a mechanic and not a painter hahaha
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 2:16pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
I'm good with a spray can, no shit!
Originally Posted by Nelzy84
Hahah Ste, my cousins the same, he's convined you can get the same finish with a rattle can, probably why he's now a mechanic and not a painter hahaha


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No-one could beat me with a rattle can dude, period!

Oh and by the way, this was just me practising as I was bored, this bonnet is going back to its original colour.

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Posted By: Nelzy84 Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 2:24pm
Not a bad effort that Ste specially for Aerosol, did you need to do loads of prep and buffing etc to bring the finish up, normally they come out looking uneven and patchy - Only down side is try finding a aersol colour to match a standard gallardo or Enzo red and imagine tring to get a finsh across a whole car and how much paint / time it would take frown
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 2:48pm
I didn't really prep it properly mate, quick spray with primer and whacked the paint on, it's really easy once the several layers of paint are on but time consuming.

If its patchy it's because the paint hasn't been rubbed down correctly or with the correct grades of paper.

Buffing and then polishing is the final job.

As I say, easy but time consuming. This bonnet took about 2 days.

smile

Oh, also I don't think anyone with common seance would spray a Lamborghini or Ferrari with rattle cans wink

Also the porsche 944 wouldn't stand a chance against an integrale.
Posted By: Nelzy84 Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 3:06pm
Good Stuff ste, thought so,

I'm glad you said that about the commonsense, with some people i've met through various contacts it wouln't suprise me bud.

Defo worth the effort on the bimmer though, more cost effective option aswell if not got loads of money to play with, and lets face it not many have in this climate

Also agreed 944 was always a bit of a let down in its day as was the 928 if its not a 911 or variation 997 etc it's not a porsche in my mind,
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 6:34pm
Curious why you say a 928 was a let down in its day yet praise the 911s, during its life the 928 was better in all aspects from almost all of the 911s.

944 was purposely made a let down by Porsche of course.
Posted By: Nelzy84 Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 6:45pm
Typo dd 922 - crap effort
928 - one of first decent, reasonably balanced front engined porkas
Posted By: Nelzy84 Re: Car re-spray - 16th Jan 2012 6:46pm
Wouldnt agree on the 928 being a patch on 911 on both looks and performance 911 miles ahead imo smile
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