Not been here that long so im not sure if its been fully discussed before now?
Whats your views on this one?
Very controversial subject, i for one think it needs overhauling in a big way as it could get well out of hand.
Fair enough with good reason & a trade to offer but lots see this country as a free ride & meal ticket?
Please discuss

With in excess of 10% of British citizens living in Spain alone I dont think we have much room to talk. Amazingly, it is actually possible to reside in another country and still claim UK state benefits!!

With all due respect matty fella, do you really think it is a similar situation with british citizens emigrating & immigrants flooding into this country?
I would of thought the reasons for migration from britain would be mainly starting businesses & retiring, different to what we are seein from ommigrants coming to here?
Lets face it who`s going to retire to britain lol.

A subject im passionate about yet know little facts about.

Im sick of all the freeloaders coming here to take the goverment for a ride,but theyre ARE SOME who have genuine reasons to come here and can offer vital services etc... The goverment do need to change their policy,but to what?

I think immagrants SHOULD NOT be allowed benefits. Maybe after theyve been paying national insurance for several years give them benefits if theyre out of a job etc (same type of benefits that brits get) but dont give them benefits the day they arrive,its their decision to come here with no money and no job.so we shouldnt have to feed and cloth them

Its simple really scoop, if someone has a trade to offer such as , doctors, dentists, surgeons which we are short of fair enough, good for economy, also in extreme cases, ie, poor kids who have lost family & have no one to support them in war torn country`s be that iraq or anywhere, or genuine cases of threat to life

so genuine assylum seekers then,and people with skills we need. Apparently the UK are only letting in x amount of doctors from bulgaria/poland etc. But there is NO restriction on the amount of unskilled people that we're letting in,and most of them are choosing to be fruit/veg pickers in farms in scotland,a lot of which are coming to dundee (my nearest major city,just 8 miles away,where i lived until sept)

Peewee,ur making urself at home lol,evo's goosed

Yeah scoop!
EVO`s getting a new server installed it seems, spoke to stu earlier.
As for the above, exactly, too many unskilled leechers (not all).
So for the minimum ammount of skilled doctors etc, it seems the ammount of freeloaders outweigh the skilled hence also putting more stress on the nhs where if it were the other way around it could lighten the load.

this country really is going down the pan,which gives me an idea for a new thread. Be right back!

It already is. I shall not discuss this more as I will only cause controversy or possibily be classed as a 'racist' although most people dont fully understand the term so I deem them hypocrits - Basicly am saving an argument

burn all scabs that drain r tax's!!!

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I for one wont judge anyone for their views dazza?
You oppinion is exactly that & you are entitled to air it (within obvious reason of course)
racism goes much further than black/white & many people feel strongly about it, i hope that doesnt prevent what could be an interesting thread as we are all entitled to our own views.
Fpmsl at tony

Anyone object to what tony said????? thought not! i agree 100% and think i'm well within my rights to air my views here on the forum. Political correctness is partly to blame for the state of this country,and i aint gonna let it stop me saying that.

I dont agree with insulting a person cos of their race/gender etc. but its the scabs,theyve ruined it for the rest of them. And well said peewee, PC'ness shudnt get in the way of a good thread,its what makes the world go round

I agree with Tonys comments but you know aswell as I do Scoop your views are not always welcome on a public forum, nevermind this one.

Thats kinda the point dazza. I've had it up to here with PC. There are plenty of forums out there that allow this sort of talk, beginning to wonder why this one doesnt, its what CW needs. To break free of the PC ball and chain (within reason)

Not aloud to [censored] off ... who come here to steal our tax money and sit on theyre arse with their 7 kids..........they deserve slaggin off

I see this type of topic crop up from time to time in many places, as long as it doesnt get out of hand & is discussed civil it can get very interesting without slating other peoples views, for instance if you dont agree with a persons view simply state your reason & alternative view.
Scoop obviously feels strongly about it & has his own view on the cause/solution, i see his point up to a limit but its plainly flawed with simple "kick the fckers out" type of thing?

Im sure I read something somewhere a few weeks ago that said some far eastern European country was taking the UK to the European courts as we where not letting enough of their people in FFS!!!

At least when brits emegrate they generally have to show that they can support themselves.

Generally I think its a bad idea that people should be able to come to the UK to work when there are so many jobless, capable people already over here, let along the people that come over and bludge off our taxes

Saying that, the ones that do come over for asylum seeking purposes and do menial, repetitive work, should accept a lower payscale in the comfort that they are safe.

This is correct stuy & what i pointed out earlier, we as immigrants as a rule do so for business or retirement purpose most of the time, i shouldnt imagine many brits move to spain to claim benefit lol.

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Well said & as said by me earlier, within reason (non racist) comments are wanted rather than racist views, would just like to see peoples ideas.

Agreed webby,im not,and never will, be a racist. But there is,in my opinion nothing wrong with having a good old rant at lazy fuckers and peeps who come here for a meal ticket.

Australia have it right in this respect. U have to PROVE to be useful to them before your let in. that shud be the rule here

There are plenty of people who are British Citizens who dont have any intrest in working! And all these bag eds arnt classed as "unemployed" as they supposedly have a medical reason for not working.

Yeah its called being a druggy. Pakistani's and the like work damn hard in my personal experience and as revealed by Tonight With Trevor Macdonald, most of these eastern European immigrants are doing the crappest jobs you can imagine like cleaning public toilets etc, things which councils and employer's have not been able to find workers for, no matter how many people are "un-employed" in their area.

We live in a nanny state, Germany have got it right with their two tier system, you either work or you get very little off the state (maybe £20 a week). The only place where their system is questionable is sometimes it can force people who should'nt be working due to illness to work, due to the fact you have to satisfy VERY stringent requirements to claim sickness benefit of any type.

I don't agree with assylum seekers and the like not being allowed to work. Ok they dont get automatic work permits, but should they not be required to fulfill a full time scheme of helping the community by cleaning up etc, to get their benefits. Most of them claim to be here through persecution and the like, but I feel if this is the case they would be more then happy to help the country. But the government won't allow it.

Most of the blame lies at the goverments feet im afraid.

And yes there are some people taking advantage of loopholes in our system, but they are there to be exploited, and until they are removed they will be!

Spot on! i was thinking this while reading the thread.
The thing that really irritates me is we accept asylum seekers who have blatantly come through other EU countries. I was under the impression it was the 1st safe port of call you were to claim asylum. Now unless they sail straight here thats not the UK! Granted some may be genuine, but many aren't and are unwilling to work.
I'm all for immigration, but it must be restricted, we already have over priced housing, and too little of it too.
1 in 1 out, like clubs at capacity lol