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Posted By: markeee aluminium welder wanted - 7th Dec 2010 8:23pm
got a bike frame i need fixing
Posted By: chris_gilly Re: aluminium welder wanted - 7th Dec 2010 8:35pm
cant you buy a cheap arc and buy the right sticks?
Posted By: kimpri Re: aluminium welder wanted - 7th Dec 2010 8:37pm
mike hose motorcycles kelvin rd wallasey, right opposite st Paul's rd.
Posted By: vw_kyle Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 10:24am
altrite mate try arrowebrook engineering on poulton road use to work there they,ll do a good job
Posted By: anniebo28 Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 2:46pm
You dont want to buy a TIG set just to do one bike frame. A crap second hand one will set you back over £250. You can use MIG with the right wire and gas but the weld is rubbish, you cant use ARC as its way too powerful and will blow holes in the thin gauge metal.
Take it to an engineering company and they will do it for you for cheap, if you speak to them nice, they may even do it for free!
I have had TIG sets before and you want someone who can properly TIG weld and not just someone who can melt some metal over the crack, especially when its going to be taking a structural load, i.e. bike frame.
Posted By: dan0h Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 3:04pm
Tread careful if its an expensive frame, it could well have quite a high percentage of magnesium in the alloy, and it's no fun to end you're life in a huge flash of white light.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 4:17pm
Any form of aluminium welding is very specialised, and as Danoh says, an alloy can be even more specialised.

The idea of an amateur or even a steel welder attempting an aluminium job is a farce.
Posted By: DavidB Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 5:00pm
Get aluminium wire for mig. I've never tried it but it's more delicate than steel.
Posted By: fabby Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 5:03pm
do you have picture
Posted By: dan0h Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 8:09pm
To reiterate DD's comments - Ally welding is about as complex as its gets, for something that you'll be putting a lot of load into, the material needs to be immaculately clean with no impurities or dirt. Chemical cleaning would be recommended.

If its an expensive enough frame to warrant the repair, its probably an exotic enough alloy to not really be a feasible weld.
Posted By: markeee Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 10:05pm
dont know what or where to go as it was a 2k bike !

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Posted By: Nigel Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 10:53pm
Originally Posted by markeee
dont know what or where to go as it was a 2k bike !

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Try AMF engineering on the croft bussiness park Brombourough 0151 346 1166. They always used to be able to weld Ally, I think they still do.
Posted By: dan0h Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 11:47pm
Cripes. Full marks for breaking it there though. Good effort! It'll need all that paint stripping off for a start.

Do you not think you'd be better off ripping all the good stuff off and buying a new frame? I can't see you'll ever get a structurally sound repair so close to that pivot.

-> http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=625
Posted By: dan0h Re: aluminium welder wanted - 8th Dec 2010 11:58pm
Heres a suggestion (far from ideal) -

1. Drill each end of the crack out with a 3mm drill to stop it spreading.

2. De-tension the rear shock and remove the pivot.

3. Get yourself a good quality seat post, cut the top off so its merely a tube with no right angle, drop it (or force it) down the tube overlapping the crack, then drill it all the way through above and below the crack to bolt it in place.

Its a nasty fix, but it might save you a frame and a lot of very invasive welding, that will ruin all your paint and probably distort the frame.

Sympathy to you bud. Nasty.

EDIT: By the look of it though, the bosses that mount the pivot and top tube may well interfere with the consistency of the seat post, so a tube may not go all the way down it - worth a look though.
Posted By: MrPhil Re: aluminium welder wanted - 9th Dec 2010 12:28am
To be honest even if you did weld it i'd say in 12 months it will be back.

dan's suggestion with a seat post down it is a good idea. get an enineering firm to turn a solid piece in a transition fit with M8 female thread in one end so a stud bar can aid fitment to the correct depth.

Drill the frame in 4 points (2 top and 2 bottom) so you can pool weld from frame to boss inside the frame.

Then repair the original split. This will stop the frame twistin from the heat.

Try TSW engineering in Brom, maybe get it done as a forgeiner.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: aluminium welder wanted - 9th Dec 2010 12:52am
But first - check out the Kona Warranty ....

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Note the European Warranty is separate ...
Posted By: anniebo28 Re: aluminium welder wanted - 9th Dec 2010 7:07am
That says "shall be free of defective materials or workmanship", that is a crack due to being used too hard, not defective materials or workmanship. you will be best off trying to repair yourself because it will cost you more in postage than getting it TIG'd locally.
Posted By: dan0h Re: aluminium welder wanted - 9th Dec 2010 10:21am
I think you could argue its a flawed design as the load from the seat-post and pivot both meet at that weld, the weld has acted as a stress-raiser and hence the crack has formed from the weld base.

Good luck whatever you try smile MrPhil's evolved version of my pikey fix sounds like the way to go.
Posted By: fabby Re: aluminium welder wanted - 18th Feb 2011 8:20pm
Have you resolved this issue if not please Pm for details of alloy welding
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