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#357182 13th Oct 2009 9:23pm
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When is this goverment going to get on with running this country instead of squabbling over who ripped the tax payer of the most they have just had 3 months holiday they should have sorted this in there time and not ours they make me some madd.


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This is one thing you can't blame the government for, all MPs from all parties are responsible for this one, The ones responsible for all this is the department who were supposed to be keeping an eye on expenses whether the MPs were knowingly in the wrong or not. Also its been in the hands of a independent inquirer, who i don't think has dragged his feet.


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Bert your a very forgiving person.the MP's all MP's are the ones that made the rules,enforced the rules and used the rules to their advantage,the department is there just to handout the sacks money and as working people had no way of stopping these "honourable" gentlemen from doing what they are still doing.
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Dave, i wouldn't suggest that MPs are lily white and i did say they all have some responsibility in this, but whether they were genuine or underhanded expense claims the office responsible should have done their jobs properly and put a stop to it. They must have guidelines set before them. While some MPs unscrupulously knowingly made claims they should have been better policed by the expenses office.


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Bert if you ran a company would you let the employees set out the guidelines and rules on the expenses they recieve from you and let them be in charge of the rules and then let them be the judge and the jury of the rules ,I doubt it,but you have just seen this at work,aka 5bellies Smith who got away £116,000 by using this scam,the fees office is there to take orders from the MP's and even help them to fill the wheelbarrows,even the MP's that are "innocent" should be taken to account as they knew it was going on,we have the HMRC to deal with when we claim expences why shouldn't they have to same,it's already set up.

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Sack them all!! Put meerkats in charge!!! Seemples!

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Dave, I take in fully what your saying, i also think if Andrew Walker, a civil servant who was Director of finance and administration had done his job properly and been more forceful, this matter would have come to light years ago and perhaps put to bed, The same of cause can be said of the speaker of the house.


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Problem is bert if the management above you is shall we say corrupt and your on a nice earner and pension ,you don't want to rock the boat and your told by the management and the MP's that no rules have been broken go ahead and payup or we get somebody else in,the MP's are in charge they rule the roost,be they back bencher, speaker,cabinet or PM,they have been caught where are the plod why aren't they up before the beak,don't forget the mortgages payments inquiry comes up soon,you like me will know what the verdict will be,whitewash and champagne all round.

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Ive shuddered when I have heard some of the things claimed and the amounts...

Gardeners, house keepers, etc, WTF!!! Do your own house work and gardening somad


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Originally Posted by davew3
Problem is bert if the management above you is shall we say corrupt and your on a nice earner and pension ,you don't want to rock the boat and your told by the management and the MP's that no rules have been broken go ahead and payup or we get somebody else in,the MP's are in charge they rule the roost,be they back bencher, speaker,cabinet or PM,they have been caught where are the plod why aren't they up before the beak,don't forget the mortgages payments inquiry comes up soon,you like me will know what the verdict will be,whitewash and champagne all round.


Yes Dave, I agree wholeheartedly, where are the plod, amazing how they have kept quiet. Don't forget if your caught being naughty, just offer to pay it back.


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