Our Success is in our members who value our strength as a valued community.
Forum Stats
12137 Members
65 Forums
72400 Topics
976204 Posts
60 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
78 registered (alan128, 11 invisible), 1512 Guests and 262 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Vet help 573
Another Big Waste Fire in Liverpool. 521
Talk Talk Security Breach 435
Anyone Read Chinese Writing 368
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road? 288
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone 259
That was kept a bit quiet? 245
RIP Peter Vaughan 193
Game shocking prices!!! 164
Cowhouses 161
New General Forums
Lib/dems rule the day
by JimmyG
2nd Dec 2016 10:59pm
Daft funny joke
by venice
2nd Dec 2016 5:54pm
We dont learn much.
by venice
1st Dec 2016 9:22pm
Freegle
by venice
1st Dec 2016 6:36pm
New Wirral History
Cowhouses
by Norton
Yesterday at 03:34 PM
Name help
by Paternoster21
3rd Dec 2016 8:03am
HMT Lancastria
by granny
2nd Dec 2016 11:38pm
Cubitts Holland and Hannen
by fish5133
27th Nov 2016 5:38pm
Fire station
by chris7777
22nd Nov 2016 12:24pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
Cowhouses
by fish5133
Today at 02:23 AM
Virgin broadband
by fish5133
Today at 02:18 AM
Iphone 5s, Grey, near mint condition, 50
by _Steve_
Yesterday at 09:59 PM
Merseyrail
by TheComputerLab
Yesterday at 09:14 PM
Steel frame with wheels
by anniebo28
Yesterday at 08:06 PM
Mountain bike carrera Vulcan 100 excellent cond
by TheComputerLab
Yesterday at 03:57 PM
Offline Monday
by Mark
Yesterday at 12:13 PM
Anyone Read Chinese Writing
by Tranquil
Yesterday at 01:44 AM
Talk Talk Security Breach
by eddtheduck
9th Dec 2016 10:46pm
December
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#995191 - 17th Dec 2015 12:21pm Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required
rhoobarb2002 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 13th Aug 2011
Posts: 677
Loc: Wirral
A double request on this one, wondering if anyone can help?

First the problem, and what I believe it to be. I'll try to keep it simple but as detailed as I can.

54 plate, Vauxhall Astra H Elite, 1.7 Diesel.

Driving along, stereo starts cutting out, the factory stereo is awful and is temperamental to say the least, so not surprised. Driving later on, the heater blower starts cutting in/out. Got my attention now, potentially an electrical problem, will see how it plays out. 3rd driving outing, ABS warning light comes on, then goes out. Then the Engine warning light comes on, then goes out. Then both lights come on and stay on, along with a couple of others. Dashboard display starts to dim and the wipers go sluggish, finally ending in the power steering going. Engine still running at this point.

Limped home (was only very local at the time), switched the engine off. Tried to switch it on, nothing, dead.

So, my conclusion; either the battery, alternator or associated (belt, cable, etc) has gone down. Which after research, the alternator is a common problem with these.

This morning tried to start the car, it was not happy about it, but it did start. Checked the voltage at the battery terminals, 7 volts and rapidly dropping, indicating to me that it is a problem with the alternator and the engine is running entirely off battery power, or the voltage would be around the 14 volts mark, so the battery is not at fault. Checked all the fuses, nothing wrong there.

Thus leaving the alternator, alternator belt, or related wiring being the fault.

So, question 1 being, does anyone agree/not agree with my rudimentary diagnosis?

Question 2, does anyone know of a good, affordable mobile mechanic that would be able to fix the problem at a good price?(worst time of year financially *sad face*)

And question 3, what kind of prices are we looking at for this work?

Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Edited by rhoobarb2002 (17th Dec 2015 12:22pm)

Top
AutoWirral : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

WikiWirral Numbers : Between 150 and 200 New Members Every Month. With Over 3,500 unique visits and 35,000 Page Views each day. Average +500 Search Engines Daily and over 1,000,000 Million Page views a Month. Advertising from 20 . Click Me
#995193 - 17th Dec 2015 1:24pm Re: Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required [Re: rhoobarb2002]
Gibbo Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 27th Dec 2010
Posts: 1707
Loc: Oxton
How old is the battery? If its old and failing it may not be holding the charge. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think on modern cars the car draws power from the battery when running, and the alternator keeps it topped up. Not like the old days when you could start a car then remove the battery!

Ste or Turnip would be my first choice if you want a second professional opinion.

They might even have a good spare battery to test on your car first. That way they can get it started and check if the alternator is ok.

Top
#995195 - 17th Dec 2015 1:40pm Re: Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required [Re: rhoobarb2002]
turnip Online   content
Guardian

Registered: 15th Dec 2011
Posts: 995
Loc: wirral
I'm pretty sure we have a charged up battery in the garage if you wanted to pop that on and see if it fixes the issue. The alternators on them are quite common to go and they have a vacuum pump bolted on the back of them which of course adds to the cost.

Not the most difficult of jobs but probably still looking at a couple of hours as access is fairly limited and some things can be a little tight. Give me a shout if you want me to pop this battery on and see what it does.

Top
#995206 - 17th Dec 2015 3:58pm Re: Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required [Re: rhoobarb2002]
dustymclean Offline

Old Hand

Registered: 18th Sep 2013
Posts: 314
Loc: birkenhead
So many faults seem to point to an electrical problem, how many amps the battery is putting out is more critical than volts.Could be as simple as a bad earth.A technical diagnostic is the best route if you find nothing obvious.

Top
#995207 - 17th Dec 2015 3:59pm Re: Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required [Re: rhoobarb2002]
MikeT Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 23rd Apr 2010
Posts: 539
Loc: Canary Islands :)
First thing I would check are ALL the earth straps. Make sure you find them all. Remove, clean up the end of the strap and the bit of engine/chassis it connects to back to bright metal, then try again.

Top
#995209 - 17th Dec 2015 4:08pm Re: Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required [Re: rhoobarb2002]
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Guardian

Registered: 9th Jul 2008
Posts: 9559
Loc: Birkenhead
If your mileage is above 90,000 then its probably alternator brushes (regulator) worn out. Unfortunately when it gets to that state the arcing has often damaged the armature slip rings as well so it might not just be a case of replacing the regulator.

Auto electrican's at top of green lane (Tranmere) will refurbish the alternator if you take it off.

In the meantime, do not leave the battery in a discharged state, it will destroy it if you do, get it charged.
_________________________
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

Top
#995215 - 17th Dec 2015 5:02pm Re: Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required [Re: rhoobarb2002]
fish5133 Online   content
Forum Master

Registered: 22nd Mar 2010
Posts: 2582
Loc: Heswallish
Last time I had a load of dodgy electrical happenings (although didn't affect starting) was several split wires shorting out, Common problem on some vehicles either where wiring harness is in rubber gaiter by door hinge or passes into tailgate.

A failing coil pack also gave some dodgy electrics and driving before finally causing total electrical failure and starting

Top
#996675 - 31st Dec 2015 6:51pm Re: Mobile Mechanic/Problem Diagnosis, Help Required [Re: rhoobarb2002]
rhoobarb2002 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 13th Aug 2011
Posts: 677
Loc: Wirral
Thanks to all for the responses, and to DD for recommending the auto electrician by Green Lane station. All sorted now, it was the alternator. Refurbed with 12 months warranty for 75. Not bad at all.

Removal was a pain, as it was in an awkward place, the bolts had rounded, and the vacuum pump is attached to the alternator. Fitting was a lot quicker, and with a new bolt (9 from Vauxhalls!) the car is back up and running. The battery has been charged and seems to be working fine, time will tell if is dying or not.

Thanks to all.

Top

Moderator:  StuyMac 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Virgin broadband
by corona
Yesterday at 05:20 PM
Cowhouses
by Norton
Yesterday at 03:34 PM
Merseyrail
by ambersmum
Yesterday at 02:52 PM
Offline Monday
by Mark
Yesterday at 12:13 PM
Anyone Read Chinese Writing
by Tranquil
9th Dec 2016 3:47pm
For Sale & Free
Steel frame with wheels
by anniebo28
Yesterday at 08:06 PM
Mountain bike carrera Vulcan 100 excellent cond
by TheComputerLab
Yesterday at 03:57 PM
Micro desktop PC
by anniebo28
8th Dec 2016 2:24pm
Iphone 5s, Grey, near mint condition, 50
by anniebo28
7th Dec 2016 7:40pm
Roberts Concerto 2 CD Player For Visually Impaired
by Tranquil
6th Dec 2016 10:05pm
Featured Member
Registered: 18th Dec 2013
Posts: 203
Newest Members
lucyw, BarbaraL, SherryLover, missyb, DavidSharpe
12137 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Anyone Read Chinese Writing
by Tranquil
9th Dec 2016 3:47pm
Gymnastics coaches needed.
by margy
3rd Dec 2016 9:28pm
Wirral Globe
by locomotive
1st Dec 2016 6:25pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
News : New Topics
Geert Wilders
by fish5133
9th Dec 2016 2:44pm
RIP Peter Vaughan
by diggingdeeper
7th Dec 2016 4:22am
That was kept a bit quiet?
by venice
6th Dec 2016 11:25am
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road?
by Davefabo
6th Dec 2016 11:08am
Bunchems Xmas present warning
by venice
6th Dec 2016 9:28am
New Enthusiast Forums
Virgin broadband
by corona
Yesterday at 05:20 PM
Talk Talk Security Breach
by fish5133
7th Dec 2016 6:19pm
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
6th Dec 2016 7:13pm
Vet help
by colin86
6th Dec 2016 6:25pm
Game shocking prices!!!
by eddtheduck
5th Dec 2016 4:55pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Cowhouses 161
Virgin broadband 140
Steel frame with wheels 44
Merseyrail 28
Offline Monday 18
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Sun 8:19am
Sunset Sun 3:52pm
Local Time Sun 3:48am
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me