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#988919 - 31st Oct 2015 1:26am Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2
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According to this Notice to Mariners, five large fully erected gantry cranes are expected to arrive from China on the deck of the ship Zhen Hua 23 on Mon 2nd Nov.

These will be unloaded directly on to the new quayside
being built opposite New Brighton. Weather permitting!

http://peelports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/LNTM33-PORT-OF-LIVERPOOL-NO.33-2015-Zhen-Hua-232.pdf

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#988920 - 31st Oct 2015 1:40am Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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Its parked up in Gran Canaria at the moment -huge ship that carries huge loads ...

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#988933 - 31st Oct 2015 9:14am Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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Wow - that should be worth a look!

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#988957 - 31st Oct 2015 11:23am Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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It was parked at the Canary Islands but was spotted
yesterday crossing the Bay of Biscay.

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#988976 - 31st Oct 2015 12:51pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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Anyone fancy a guess on best time and spot to see at its closest?

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#988998 - 31st Oct 2015 5:20pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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Zhen Hua 23 is now passing Lands End at 10Knts.
if that helps?

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#989017 - 31st Oct 2015 6:22pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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She looks top heavy, must have been calm in the bay, a sign of the times, few or little shipbuilding yards, virtually no steelworks, and an almost no Merchant Navy, and we have a Chinese ship delivering Chinese built gantries, made with Chinese steel, this government sure looks after everybody bar their own people and industries, moan over, will be down to see her unload.

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#989036 - 31st Oct 2015 9:06pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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Mmm. that calculation is in my 'too hard' box Wally, but thanks grin

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#989038 - 31st Oct 2015 9:24pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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The link states she is coming in on the 3pm high tide. I'm guessing New Brighton by the fort - or upstairs at the Floral with a cuppa! - would be a good place to view her. Arrive early to be on the safe side.


Edited by Greenwood (31st Oct 2015 9:24pm)

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#989048 - 31st Oct 2015 10:41pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Greenwood]
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Thanks, dont know much about tides . So I gather the ship comes in the same time as the tide is at its absolute highest , 3pm, but we give it half an hour's leaway because the tide stays in for a while.Got it.

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#989053 - 31st Oct 2015 11:01pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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Well, if she is due to actually dock (or moor, or whatever) at 3pm, you might see some interesting manouevring(sp?) if you get there earlier than that. It'd be more fun to see her in motion, I think.

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#989054 - 31st Oct 2015 11:04pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: casper]
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Originally Posted By: casper
She looks top heavy, must have been calm in the bay, a sign of the times, few or little shipbuilding yards, virtually no steelworks, and an almost no Merchant Navy, and we have a Chinese ship delivering Chinese built gantries, made with Chinese steel, this government sure looks after everybody bar their own people and industries, moan over, will be down to see her unload.


And its for a British dock.

Ship has a draught of 8.4m (27'4") with its current load, basically they fill it full of water putting much of the heavy parts of the ship below the waterline to keep it bottom heavy. When it unloads the cranes it takes on more water and sinks until the deck is level with the dockside then roll the cranes off.
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#989061 - 1st Nov 2015 7:29am Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Whatever ballast she has in her, wouldn't instill any confidence in me if she is caught in extreme weather conditions sick

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#989091 - 1st Nov 2015 11:32am Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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Well it's been round the cape on this journey and probably many others.
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#989093 - 1st Nov 2015 1:22pm Re: Cranes Arriving for Liverpool2 [Re: Wally1]
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There have been two incidents with these ship both in 2008 ...

Zhenhua 10 broke its moorings and ended up beached with 5 cranes onboard - luckily a salvage company managed to refloat it without it toppling.

Zhenhua 23 with 3 cranes onboard at Felixstowe in 80mph winds broke its moorings and knocked a dockside crane which fell into another. The onboard cranes survived ok.

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