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Another 4,000 arrived in Greece last night. No end to this situation that is about to explode. There are just about more Syrian refugees (6 million)in Jordan than the Jordanian population and a further 11 million who do not want to fight !

There again, oh ye of little faith, it was foretold ! I hope you are all beginning to say your prayers. yes

Damascus one of the oldest cities on earth ;

Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap.
Isaiah 17


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They should stay and fight for there country.saw some news yesterday ,was sad sight to see,all the syrian temples and history being distroyed and these young able men are running away and letting this happen.
Wonder what they would do if our country became in the same situation. Would they flee or stand by the UK.

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From various reports, it would seem that most of the women and children are placed in refugee camps in Jordan, Iraq and Turkey. Even so, they are still subjected to rape etc.
Many of people still in Syria have been attacked by mustard gas. One wonders where IS get it from ??

On the news this afternoon Harriet Harman has suggested that the right way to go is to ask all councils in the UK how many refugees they can each take, with relation to housing and settling.
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How many should Wirral take ?


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[youtube]v=RPqOKruQIoE[/youtube] I bet its more than the 330.00 figure now.
Theres a meeting on the 14th of this month.Cant be that urgent or they would call a meeting much sooner.

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Originally Posted by granny
From various reports, it would seem that most of the women and children are placed in refugee camps in Jordan, Iraq and Turkey. Even so, they are still subjected to rape etc.
Many of people still in Syria have been attacked by mustard gas. One wonders where IS get it from ??

On the news this afternoon Harriet Harman has suggested that the right way to go is to ask all councils in the UK how many refugees they can each take, with relation to housing and settling.
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How many should Wirral take ?

Wirral has plenty of empty 3+ bedroomed Social Housing properties, boarded up because hardly anybody fits the criteria for eligibility.

Evicted victims of Bedroom Tax/ Benefits Cap. The families who used to live there are now in Temporary Accomodation costing the council 500+% increase in costs of housing them in Bed and Breakfasts.

Have you seen the harrowing images of dead babies/ children who have drowned? Human Beings who are 'banned' from coming here.

It's all Bollocks.

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Look at this image xenophobic s!

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A Turkish border guard carries the body of a migrant child after a number of migrants died and a smaller number were reported missing after boats carrying them to the Greek island of Kos capsized, near the Turkish resort of Bodrum Photo: AP

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Lost for words .. .. .

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Originally Posted by snowhite
[youtube]v=RPqOKruQIoE[/youtube] I bet its more than the 330.00 figure now.
Theres a meeting on the 14th of this month.Cant be that urgent or they would call a meeting much sooner.
OF COURSE it is not URGENT. Dis- placed Humans are just a distraction- nothing has changed for years and years.

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A Turkish border guard carries the body of a migrant child after a number of migrants died and a smaller number were reported missing after boats carrying them to the Greek island of Kos capsized, near the Turkish resort of Bodrum Photo: AP

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Lost for words .. .. .
Me too- Mark. Heartbreaking

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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Originally Posted by granny
From various reports, it would seem that most of the women and children are placed in refugee camps in Jordan, Iraq and Turkey. Even so, they are still subjected to rape etc.
Many of people still in Syria have been attacked by mustard gas. One wonders where IS get it from ??

On the news this afternoon Harriet Harman has suggested that the right way to go is to ask all councils in the UK how many refugees they can each take, with relation to housing and settling.
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How many should Wirral take ?

Wirral has plenty of empty 3+ bedroomed Social Housing properties, boarded up because hardly anybody fits the criteria for eligibility.

Evicted victims of Bedroom Tax/ Benefits Cap. The families who used to live there are now in Temporary Accomodation costing the council 500+% increase in costs of housing them in Bed and Breakfasts.

Have you seen the harrowing images of dead babies/ children who have drowned? Human Beings who are 'banned' from coming here.

It's all Bollocks.


Yes, we have all seen that picture and that is the first such ones we have been shown like those, as shock treatment. Has any serious thought been given to the thousands, including babies and children, who have already been drowned in the medi, or is it only the 'visible sign' that strikes a chord in people ?

I would have thought that if every council took 10 families or equivalent it would be quite a substantial help to the situation. There are 433 principle authorities in UK which could amount to 20,000 plus, for a start.
However, bleating about our own problems such as benefits and bedroom tax as a reason for being able to house some refugees, does not in principle seem a very generous gesture to those in greatest need.
As talked about on Newsnight tonight, we (the UK) are putting masses of effort and finance into the already refugee camps in the troubled areas, more than any other EU country. So we are doing stuff in different areas which is also an enormous help and saves many from the perilous journey's, where so many others have perished.


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There are only three ways of stopping those deaths.

1. Making it unattractive or pointless to risk the journey.

2. Making it more attractive for them to stay where they are.

3. Providing free and safe transport across seas.

Number 2 is the proper solution, we are going to end up bribing the governments/leaders in the end, we might as well start now.

Bribery has been the only successful solution to most conflicts in recent time, it works in everybody's favour. You only have to buy off a few officials/leaders at the top.


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With the pressure mounting from Germany on all the EU countries to take refugees, it is questionable as to why. Germany's pledge to take 800,000 is a figure that is hardly likely to be reached quite so soon, but as Germany is looking at asylum seekers, of which are mostly educated Syrians, is Mrs Merkel hoping the rest of Europe will take the illegal migrants and the not so educated asylum seekers/refugees ? She knows that putting that offer out, all the Syrians will now want to go there, which leaves the rest of Europe to pick up the bits. Clever woman!

I think that many would prefer to be helped to stay in or as near as possible to their homeland, but that depends on how long this situation continues, as it's certainly not over yet by a long chalk.

There's a point made tonight on why Saudi Arabia hasn't taken in any asylum seekers from Syria, being a neighbour country. They must be joking !! Saudi Arabia is one of the worst places to want to be, and strict Muslim. Plus, they are having a blow out with Yemen at the moment, so it's only a matter of time before inhabitants of another country is becomes displaced. More refugees, i.e. if they are allowed to flee !

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It would appear that nobody seems to have control of this crisis, any longer. Still no concrete action. Czechs writing numbers on hands are being criticised, but they seem to have a system, where so far no other country does.

Enter World Government ..... Note the United Nations are now beginning to say what other countries should be doing .....part of the problem is that UN haven't got any money to do anything with either. (where has it all gone to ?)

Two interesting links from 2012 and digging deeper( no pun intended) opens more interesting facts.

http://www.cgdev.org/blog/united-nations-wont-tell-public-where-it-gets-its-money

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world...the-brink-of-becoming-a-world-government

In the meantime, this is a picture I like, it gives hope.


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