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I wonder ![think think](/forums/images/graemlins/default/cwemotions064.gif) You get a ticket, from the environmental officer. (Following me), and as they hands you the print out from the little machine to say you have been fined, you forget to close your fingers as they let go. . .. And now they are littering ![omg omg](/forums/images/graemlins/default/cwemotions063.gif) Should we give them a chance to pick it up or zero tolerance and £80 ?? Or would they say it's yours as it has your name on it. That would be a good one to find out.
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Fines are about to go up to £150 "Adrian Evans, the chief executive of the Clean for the Queen campaign, also warned that littering has become so commonplace in Britain that some people think it is their "human right" to drop rubbish" SOURCE
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Litter fines must increase because the middle classes no longer see stigma with dropping rubbish, the Government has been told. So why are elderly and Smokers the target outside shopping centers. Middle class have shopping delivered (im kidding). If i got caught littering accidentally a £20 fine would get the message across. £150 i hope there gonna offer a payment plan. Anyone who may be lower down the food chain less than middle class would be crippled with a hit of £150 Pay early schemes benefits the middle class as there in a position to pay wrong wrong wrong. . .
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If the aim is to stop littering , surely a highly visible sight of the litter officers would deter anyone of thinking about dropping their litter (maybe a full size cardboard litter officer put in strategic places)
I think this is all about the money to be got.
If I had the money I'd buy shares in private companies fining on commission, (such as Kingdom). Wouldn't be surprised if those in the know haven't already got their snouts in that particular trough
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I suspect the increase may be due to the fewer number of fines they expect as the message gets across to people. Fixed costs for kingdom still the same (unless they make enforcement officers redundant )and councils still want their slice.
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Ive just watched this on sky news and the angle they are implying is litterers being the likes that throw away, bags of chips, cans of beer, but not tiny bits of paper or ciggies at all.
But in reality its smokers old people and the person feeding the ducks or a snack for the seagulls.
My opinion of littering is thoses throwing takeaways in the street, bottles and cans of beer, pizza boxes and car ashtrays. For me that is with intent and deserves a fine. Of about £40 but £150 does not fit the crime at all.
Its back to the fly tippers. If a recent case had a fine of £1,500 for a fly tipper its not proportionate to a ciggy dump possibly being fined £150.
They should be also shamed into cleaning up as a community service to get the message home.
And again. Those who dont care will throw litter without a thought, and wont pay or change there attitude under a fine scheme. Education like people get with a speeding first offence. But fine fine fine will only anger so many.
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#cleanforthequeen www.cleanforthequeen.co.ukPathetic. Like she cares about litter on our streets? Pffft
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I am sure she picks up her own horse droppings and corgi *rap. Seem to remember a campaign around 40 years ago as school kids. We painted LDV (Litter Defense Volunteers) on white tea shirts and went around Thursaston Common picking up litter and asking Miss what those funny rubber things were littering the car park.
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I have said it before and I will say it again.
These Enforcement Officers only operate in epicentres of capitalism..... now, what does that say???
Our out of town areas are still riddled with rubbish but nobody (in authority)seems to care about that???
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I am sure she picks up her own horse droppings and corgi *rap. Seem to remember a campaign around 40 years ago as school kids. We painted LDV (Litter Defense Volunteers) on white tea shirts and went around Thursaston Common picking up litter and asking Miss what those funny rubber things were littering the car park. Oh....the 'snakeskins', we used to tell the kids- encountered on the shore. ![laugh laugh](/forums/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Keep Britain Tidy must have been an impressive campaign (I was a kid) I have always bagged and binned rubbish. Always -apart from fag ends, to be honest.
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George Stanley has been done for fly tipping in Bromborough. SOURCE
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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