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Yes, but while the building used to go most of the length of that wall, they have only retained a middle section so the building must have some function. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4394443,-3.0381425,74m/data=!3m1!1e3


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what is left of the building is breeze blocked either end by the look of it.......like i said before it did have scafold on it..all over it (dont know why its tiny)think the cave goes under the road and pavement....curiously the pavement on that section is behind the security fence



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Never heard of an entrance there before, If there is something there access-wise then it was definitely in the back yard of one of the Ham & Eggs properties:
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(Ignore the red outline on the property in this image).

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Thanks for the map Ian, do you have a date for it? I lived at 7 Mason Street, all the other houses are now gone and number 7 is the only house in the street.

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Where is mason street? I lived in Virginia rd
Back of the palace.. No.23... How far from where I am talking about??



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Originally Posted by j_demo
do you mean THIS red-bricked structure??? i'm sure there's not much in there, the mini golf course used to be up there and if i remember rightly the kiosk where you paid and got clubs was in them, i THINK they're not much more than storage and the like rather than entrances to some caves...

Not quite - the mini golf was between the Floral Pavilion and the Palace, where the extension to the Floral is now. You can see it here. I think the other side where this structure is used to be gardens with flower beds (Victoria Gardens?), but they were sacrificed to make the car park for the Floral, possibly in the 1970s. Unfortunately can't remember what the building was actually used for though, have been trying to find old photos but not much luck so far...

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So found this, dated c1915. It was Victoria Gardens smile

The rows of seats in front of the bandstand were where the Floral is now, so our red-brick structure was originally the open-fronted shelter to the left of the picture.

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Before the builders moved in it looked like this.


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Glad you found the map useful Mike, about to post another from 1939. Cheers

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(Ignore the red line around nearby buildings.....).

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Hi Willow, Mason Street comes out onto Victoria Road and where it does Belmont Street is directly opposite. Bit of a story behind Mason Street, it was rerouted in the 1980's to snake round behind a bus stop/ lay-by, and like Mike says there is only one house left standing on Mason Street nowadays. The guy who owned that last Mason Street property at the time of the CP0's in the street fought his corner/ wouldn't move out. The council ended up having to build the new road layout 'around' his house! This is what I heard anyway, but hey, I don't want to go off topic!

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hi again....did a bit of digging only to find it was the power station to the old floral and apparently when they built the new one they wired that into there..haha thanks everybody anyway...must admit looking at the drawing which is from 1830 there is a definate cave entrance around the area.....it looks a bit like the stone archway at rock villa but square not arched

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Thanks for the follow-up.


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