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#950359 - 9th Jun 2015 11:19am 43 years in solitary
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Just wonder what opinions are on such a long sentence of solitary confinement.

This chap and two others constantly said they were innocent of the crimes they were imprisoned for. Two have been released previously and Albert Woodfox is now to be released after 43 years in solitary.

Someone is calling for retrial.

Certain American states are particularly cruel IMO, and I can see no purpose in keeping this man incarcerated any longer. It's a sad tale of which I am sure there are many in USA.

The link to King's interview is also of interest after he spent 29yrs in solitary.

How can anyone survive that ? The pain endured by their families must have been just as bad and how on earth will he and they be able to adjust now ,is that likely to be worse ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33059012
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#950360 - 9th Jun 2015 11:27am Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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Horrendous. A fate worse than death surely. I can`t imagine the mental health issues he`s got now.

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#950362 - 9th Jun 2015 11:54am Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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Heard this on the radio yesterday,So sad .....43 years for a crime he did not commit.

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#950376 - 9th Jun 2015 12:39pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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oh look---- he is black.

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#950381 - 9th Jun 2015 12:48pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: fish5133]
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Originally Posted By: fish5133
oh look---- he is black.

Think you need to explain that Fish, it could be interpreted as racist although I think I know what you meant.

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#950383 - 9th Jun 2015 12:48pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: snowhite]
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Originally Posted By: snowhite
43 years for a crime he did not commit.

That's an unjustified assumption.
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#950399 - 9th Jun 2015 2:32pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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go out and slaughter as many cops as He could find after all they are the reason he lost his life.

Then go out rhoul moat style with cops shooting him in the head and them blaming him for it.

Blood would be spilt, slaughter the sheep until their brains bleed (which technically wouldn't happen).


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#950401 - 9th Jun 2015 2:35pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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#950417 - 9th Jun 2015 5:55pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: _Ste_]
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I never spoke to dilly once for.....ERM..... 43 minutes, he loved it.

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#950430 - 9th Jun 2015 6:15pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: chriskay]
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Originally Posted By: chriskay
Originally Posted By: snowhite
43 years for a crime he did not commit.

That's an unjustified assumption.
OOOPS i must have got this wrong.
Getting mixed up with some other News i heard yesterday.

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#950435 - 9th Jun 2015 6:31pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: chriskay]
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Originally Posted By: chriskay
Originally Posted By: snowhite
43 years for a crime he did not commit.

That's an unjustified assumption.


I think a total of 4 courts have found him not guilty, though its sometimes vague if its the original crime or the subsequent prison murder to which they refer, it was overturned 3 times.

From Nov 2014 to February 2015, the State ignored the court ruling and kept him locked up.

Witnesses and courts have been subsequently discredited, years ago.

He didn't help himself by escaping immediately after his initial ruling then joining the Black Panthers, it doesn't sound like the actions of a person who thought they would be successful on appeal.

This is now a final ruling which is not allowed to be appealed.

It would be easy to believe there is no smoke without fire but we are talking about Louisiana and their acute hatred of the Black Panthers as well as their corrupt court system (the jury foreman was basically a ringer).

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#950554 - 10th Jun 2015 10:41am Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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And yet again he's not been released.
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#950568 - 10th Jun 2015 2:49pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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Very cruel. What's the betting he has a stroke or heart attack or committed to a psychiatric wing, before he is released.
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#950570 - 10th Jun 2015 3:55pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: granny]
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Very cruel. What's the betting he has a stroke or heart attack or committed to a psychiatric wing, before he is released.


Albert Woodfox was one of the three convicted for the same thing, one of the others was Herman Wallace. Amnesty international called for Herman's release because he was dying. A judge ordered his release, the state immediately re-indicted him but didn't bother re-arresting him. He died 3 days after his release after 42 years in solitary.

Robert Hillary King was the third member of the gang who was released after 29 years using a plea bargain to a lesser offence.

Collectively they are known as the Angola Three - there is no shortage of reading on the internet.
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#950577 - 10th Jun 2015 4:30pm Re: 43 years in solitary [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Yes, I've read about it and also remember the Black Panther's fight for civil rights.
Today the black minority are still fighting for civil rights and how many of them have been killed in the process ? How many USA police have been incarcerated for 40yrs in solitary confinement ? None !
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