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Moonstar #880741 11th Jun 2014 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by Moonstar


Interesting
I have not seen any signs of fungus - but will be alert
I note the quoted article says that affected trees often have an extra-spectacular flower/ fruit display before they "die". THAT rings a bell. Before the tree went sick the blossom display in May was magnificent. We all commented on how much better it was than usual. THEN as the blossom fell so did the leaves ---- like autumn in late June. By the time real autumn came most of the leaves had already gone.

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Try telling your opinion to the elements that create the wind and the weather, they might hear you better and attack in a different area to suit your opinion.

I have never heard so much shite, come out of one gob, in all my life.

Swearing and insults now, is that the best you can do? Pathetic.

I note you conveniently ignored the bit about the February gales in the North West. Wonder why that is? Because it invalidates your argument perhaps?

And no, I'm not a council employee, so that's something else you've got wrong.


No, that is not the best I can do. The best I can do is make a public apology to you for using rather unpleasant descriptive words about you. I apologise for that, but it makes no difference to the issue in question. If 200 trees blow down in gales (the one in North West/Wirral was like a breeze here, i.e. if we are comparing oranges to apples) then there has to be a greater chance of trees being uprooted or severed in higher storm force winds, when the trees are top heavy,twice the height they should be and sitting in sodden ground.

Derekdwc could pick up on the message in question.
Better to be safe than sorry. The trees will have to be lopped at some time, the longer it's avoided, the greater the expense.

I shall still refer to you as Gobbo. grin

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One of the problems with trees is that when cables are laid next to them, they simply hack through the roots on that side as part of the trench digging. Trees are a similar shape to a wine glass. The roots don't go down much, they go out horizontally. Cutting them off on one side severely weakens them. Blame the cable companies, not the tree.

For myself, I prefer to look at trees more than houses and would be very happy to see more of them. If they DO fall on your house, the council will have to sort it out, so it is hardly a life-wrecking catastrophe. It is happily a very rare event anyway, although obviously it is very annoying for the householder when it happens.

Perhaps the solution would be to move a house in a road where there are no trees if it worries you so much?

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I think the biggest problem is that tree surgeons charge far too much. The council should employ their own tree surgeons again.

I look around and see many privately owned trees getting bigger and bigger, I know why, people just cannot afford the extortionate prices.

£500 for half a days work for two people is a joke.


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Hi diggindeeper, just reading the posts re Oak trees. We have a huge Oak tree in our back garden. Maybe 40-50 years old and a beautiful specimen.In 2012 I noticed a dead branch, which could possibly , with time become a bit dangerous, so I decided to get it lopped.I eventually found a Tree Surgeon, he was based in Moreton, he came out, had a look and asked me what and how much I wanted lopping.Anyway, he wanted £300.00, offered him £250, he and his Mate got kitted up, they had all the correct P.P.I. So off they went. They were here about 5 1/2 hours, + couple of mugs of tea. He had asked me, before he started if he could have the Timber,so not having a wood burner at the time, I agreed. Well I have to say I was pleasantly surprised, what an excellent job they did, both with the tree and their clearing up after themselves.Sorry I've been a bit long winded, but they did a fantastic job. My lovely Oak is thriving. My darlin Wife, (who never throws anything out found his Business card. Karl.D. Williams, Tree Care Specialist.0151 606 8842, his address is in Moreton.So if it's any. use to anyone, I shouldn't think you'd be disappointed. Regards Phil.c

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Hi diggindeeper, just reading the posts re Oak trees. We have a huge Oak tree in our back garden. Maybe 40-50 years old and a beautiful specimen.In 2012 I noticed a dead branch, which could possibly , with time become a bit dangerous, so I decided to get it lopped.I eventually found a Tree Surgeon, he was based in Moreton, he came out, had a look and asked me what and how much I wanted lopping.Anyway, he wanted £300.00, offered him £250, he and his Mate got kitted up, they had all the correct P.P.I. So off they went. They were here about 5 1/2 hours, + couple of mugs of tea. He had asked me, before he started if he could have the Timber,so not having a wood burner at the time, I agreed. Well I have to say I was pleasantly surprised, what an excellent job they did, both with the tree and their clearing up after themselves.Sorry I've been a bit long winded, but they did a fantastic job. My lovely Oak is thriving. My darlin Wife, (who never throws anything out found his Business card. Karl.D. Williams, Tree Care Specialist.0151 606 8842, his address is in Moreton.So if it's any. use to anyone, I shouldn't think you'd be disappointed. Regards Phil.c

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I have used Karl Williams on numerous occasions. He is brilliant and I know I can trust him to do a good job without any issues, but his reputation goes before him and he's extremely busy!
Neither will he cut down trees for no apparent good reason. He loves the trees.

The trees need to be managed to keep them healthy, just as a farmer has to manage his land, and my trees are in fine fettle.

The council trees are a different story altogether. Dead branches, poor leaf growth and last year they looked to have that disease 'Ash Dieback', which will see the end of them and a road full of trees ready for the slaughter. That can't be the way to manage trees, can it ??

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Its the time they take that is often the con.

I had an awkward tree that was leaning over a fence at 45 degrees, it was about 25ft and about 100ft away from where a lorry could park. Tree was cut down, removed, and sawdust cleared from lawns (totally undamaged), all in less than 2 hours. I had had quotes up to £700 for that job and no doubt they would have been there a whole day at that price.

A company who works on a fixed price contract lopped 5 trees (two large, three medium) in less than five hours.

The Council trees had a company that wasn't pulling their weight running the contract for a few years, it will take a long time to catch up.


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where in the Wirral do you live I was employed as a tree surgeon with Wirral council for twenty years but was made redundant in 2007 and have worked all over the Wirral dealing with tree complaints for the council this is for my record to see if you are telling the truth about how long your street has not being dealt with I am not sticking up for the council do not make any mistake about that

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