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My points being that there is no black or white and those who just want to take advantage.

It seems to me that breaking into a city centre building of reknown is rather like travelling folk moving into a field in hallowed countryside.

All very grey.

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My points being that there is no black or white and those who just want to take advantage.

It seems to me that breaking into a city centre building of reknown is rather like travelling folk moving into a field in hallowed countryside.

All very grey.
Can see this place getting wrecked and overcrowded with squatters.

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The main Question should be why (must be for eventual profit)these and similar buildings are left empty for years and possibly deteriorating when there are people prepared to live in or use them.
Compulsory purchase them and get some use out of them if empty for a number of years.
a charity use, homeless folks,food bank

I'd lay odds if it was in London it would have been snapped up by now

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It's owned by Santander and is up for sale. If someone couldn't sell their house, would we expect squatters to move in ? NO.

We seem to be getting weighed down with Activists Agendas. They are on a mission at the moment.....just a political stunt, backed by Wirral Unite !! Says it all really doesn't it ?

What is wrong with all the other charities for the homeless in Liverpool.

Whitechapel Centre,

The Basement

Liverpool's Men's Centre

Crisis Skylight

LCVS

Shelter.

Centrepoint.

Salvation Army

Red Cross etc. etc.

If someone wants to do good, and if Wirral Unite want to get involved, maybe they should contribute some of their vast wealth that sits in the bank doing nothing.
I would also be interested to know how much cash (from donations) Wirral Foodbank also has in the bank. Last I found was 2012/13 income about £23,000 outgoings £7,000.

The Bank of England building will survive, just as it did through a world war, but I doubt the homeless will survive there for too long.





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Originally Posted by granny
It's owned by Santander (Spanish owned bank making billions in profit in UK)and is up for sale.




If someone couldn't sell their house, would we expect squatters to move in ? NO. Not if they still lived there

We seem to be getting weighed down with Activists Agendas. They are on a mission at the moment.....just a political stunt, backed by Wirral Unite !! Says it all really doesn't it ?

What is wrong with all the other charities for the homeless in Liverpool.
Doesn't the number of charities say something itself
Whitechapel Centre,

The Basement

Liverpool's Men's Centre

Crisis Skylight

LCVS

Shelter.

Centrepoint.

Salvation Army

Red Cross etc. etc.

If someone wants to do good, and if Wirral Unite want to get involved, maybe they should contribute some of their vast wealth that sits in the bank doing nothing.
I can agree with that and also with church (C of E and Catholic) - maybe they do contribute but anonymously
I would also be interested to know how much cash (from donations) Wirral Foodbank also has in the bank. Last I found was 2012/13 income about £23,000 outgoings £7,000.(You can't eat money)
Maybe they are keeping some set aside for if there are more swinging cuts due

The Bank of England building will survive, just as it did through a world war, but I doubt the homeless will survive there for too long.




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Nice research Granny. thumbsup

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DDWC, It doesn't make occupation of a building any more acceptable even if they have multi billions or a state pension.
Fundraising for the(Church) Charity Groups is certainly constant and ongoing on a National basis.As is the Red Cross, Crisis and the others. Anyone on here who reads this can donate to any of the charities for the homeless listed above. £5 does a lot, but most are happy to squabble about the rights and wrongs rather than putting their hands in their pockets. So we can revert the problem back to ourselves for not contributing more, for the needy.
When FoodBanks take cash donations, I would have thought that money is given in good faith to be used for the very purpose it is donated. Nobody from a charity should have carte blanche to stand it on end.
Whitechapel Centre, spend 100% of their donations on those who need it.

This latest occupation has it's wish list, but it's noted they have not asked for , anyone qualified in mental health, counselling for drug /alcohol abuse , welfare, first aiders, bereavement councillors ,and other important assistance which should be in place. When that is all there, then I shall maybe take them seriously.
These people in many cases are traumatised; musicians and magicians alone will not put it back together for them.

This is their WISH LIST.

We are issuing an urgent call out for:
- OCCUPIERS
- ACTIVISTS
- STREET KITCHENERS
- ARTISTS
- PERFORMERS
- MUSICIANS
- POLITICAL SPEAKERS from any background
- and, THE WHOLE LOCAL COMMUNITY to come down, join in and enjoy the new space.

If you are interested in using the space for anything at all,.. Be quick - we don't know how long we'll be able to hold onto the building.

As well as as many individuals as possible, we also have a Wishlist:

- barricading equipment - wood, nails, drills, anything a bit 'DIY'
- film screening equipment that can be lent (and some kind technical person to operate it!)
- STREET KITCHEN - any donations of food, blankets, any unwanted clothing for the FREE SHOP.


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Some could have been right with their thoughts of graffiti. I just wonder who the 50 homeless were last night. It looks like 'party time' as opposed to a rather more a serious gesture. Kids included as well ! Maybe they could open it up for guided tours or urban exploration ?

Can't understand why people wish to hide their identities, somewhat cowardice and two faced.

Anyway, this facebook page should keep you up to date if anyone is interested !

Click on the images, it makes them much clearer.

https://www.facebook.com/WirralUniteCommunityBranchNw96

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Its already been Urban explored numerous times, as the squatters said, the building was open without breaking in.

Squatting in a non-domestic building is not illegal, over many years the various governments have purposely chosen not to make it illegal, this may be counter-intuitive but there must be reasons.

On moral grounds it can be argued either way either that people shouldn't have the right to squat or why should people not be sheltered when a shelter is empty.

It deeply concerns me that they are asking for barricading materials and tools, a satisfactory barrier would more than likely involve damage to this very fine building.


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Oh dear ! It would appear that the images of the inside of the bank building have quickly disappeared. Not to worry, if anyone wishes to see them all I have saved them . smile


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I would love to see them Granny thanks xx

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What a load of ..., loads of graffiti everywhere. These aren't squatters, they are vandals.


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