Our Success is in our members who value our strength as a valued community.
Forum Stats
12223 Members
65 Forums
72734 Topics
980344 Posts
78 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
98 registered (11kendo, 17 invisible), 1483 Guests and 212 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
On-street parking charges dropped 414
Ceiling needs smoothing 351
TS Indefatigable 291
Patio work 255
Hezballah 228
Sea Shepherd 212
vet fees 207
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead 91
Re sizing 79
Am I missing something ? 63
New General Forums
Am I missing something ?
by dizdazdoz
16th Feb 2017 12:46pm
Valentines Day---Help From The Ladies
by fish5133
10th Feb 2017 7:35pm
Happy BirthdaY
by Vanmanone
10th Feb 2017 2:51am
Warning!!!
by muzzy2
9th Feb 2017 9:09am
New Wirral History
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead
by yoller
19th Feb 2017 7:53pm
TS Indefatigable
by granny
18th Feb 2017 3:32pm
RIP : Chris Kay
by granny
31st Aug 2016 9:25am
Children's home on the Overchurch
by xleahx
26th Apr 2011 7:01pm
Stanlow Abbey
by ghostly1
4th Dec 2008 10:09pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
Changes to bin collections
by joeblogs
TS Indefatigable
by granny
11:12 PM
Missing
by granny
11:10 PM
Samick Greg Bennett UK50 Ukulele
by j_demo
09:24 PM
Stanlow Abbey
by techgran
09:07 PM
2x Brit Floyd tickets 3rd March City entrance
by ambersmum
06:35 PM
Sherwood 2x30W amp with phono - £35; other hifi
by montyz
04:09 PM
vet fees
by starakita
03:48 PM
Lobbying the council
by diggingdeeper
03:29 PM
February
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by venice
19th Feb 2017 12:19pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
13th Feb 2017 8:50pm
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#939802 - 5th Apr 2015 8:50am Overclocking
Excoriator Online   content
Wise One

Registered: 21st Jan 2010
Posts: 817
Loc: wirral
Anyone into this?

I am currently putting together a new PC and looking at using either a Core 2 i5 4670 or a 4670K processor. The motherboard will accept either, the latter allows the user to overclock it the former has a form of automatic boosting only but is a bit cheaper.

Personally I am not into games, but I do use a number of CAD programs and want the maximum bang for my buck. I am concerned that a maybe 25% increase in processor speed could result in long term damage to the chip. They are after all designed to work non-overclocked. On the other hand, the motherboard is designed to allow it! To gain the maximum advantage from overclocking seems to imply a water-cooling system is necessary.

I am also somewhat undecided on the amount of DDR3 I need. The board has four DIMM sockets, and I suspect I need at least 8GB. I can fit a maximum of 32GB (at huge expense) but do I need this? I think I will get better speed if I fit two boards than one, but is this right?

Any practical advice anyone has on either matter would be very gratefully received.

Top
Digital Wirral : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

* * * Dentwiz : Paintless Dent Repair * * *
Now Advertise with WikiWirral.
WikiWirral stats 35,000 Page Views a Day +500 Search Engines.. Click Me
#939817 - 5th Apr 2015 11:10am Re: Overclocking [Re: Excoriator]
TheComputerLab Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 18th May 2011
Posts: 1223
Loc: Wallasey
I thought you would never ask!

Such a massive subject but to summarise. Any K chip is unlocked which means it can be safely overclocked.

Get a board that has over clocking as one of its features, this will ensure a minimum user error (less chance of blowing a chip) its not like the olden days when you just pushed it until it got to hot or popped these days board manufacturers build with it in mind. water cooling will allow you to overclock higher with minimum risk.

get a board and chip combo that is well supported to help you in clocking.

I like ASUS boards and Gigabyte, Gigabyte boards allow you to run OSX out of the box so if your in to CAD its a very good way to get a MAC on a very nice budget

16GB Ram is ample for most high end CAD users.

I would get this: Gigabyte Review
here is a good Overclocking guide for it
and HERE is where you can buy it.

one last thing, if you fancy a go at building a hackintosh have a look HERE

OH! and one final thing (teehee) if you would like a pre built computer saving you some cash in the process let me know as I have an ASUS board with an i5 3330 for Sale. smile

Top
#939825 - 5th Apr 2015 12:11pm Re: Overclocking [Re: Excoriator]
Excoriator Online   content
Wise One

Registered: 21st Jan 2010
Posts: 817
Loc: wirral
Thanks for the advice computerlab. Good to see you, too, like ASUS motherboards!

I have more or less decided on the ASUS Z97-E. It seems to support the 4670K and any overclocking of it, but I wonder if getting the 4670 would be almost as good. Not only is is it about £12 cheaper, I suspect it may not be very much slower either. There is also an extra £50 to £100 to pay for a water cooler if I go down the overclocking route in a serious way.

This motherboard is not over costly, and has plenty of PCI slots which I will use for dedicated hardware for my own purposes.

My aim is to hit the sweet spot between maximising performance and minimising the cost. I don't want to pay 50% more for 1% better performance. However paying 5% more for 20% better performance is a good investment.

Top
#939918 - 5th Apr 2015 8:42pm Re: Overclocking [Re: Excoriator]
TheComputerLab Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 18th May 2011
Posts: 1223
Loc: Wallasey
Get the k, you can not over clock a non K chip. For £12 get the K!!!

To be honest boards and chips have not been the bottle neck for years, it has been hard drives. Get a decent SSD and your laughing!

Top
#939978 - 6th Apr 2015 8:00am Re: Overclocking [Re: Excoriator]
TheComputerLab Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 18th May 2011
Posts: 1223
Loc: Wallasey
Oh and.... Finally I would rather get the best board on the market and an average chip rather than the best chip and a rubbish board. My advice is to spend the lion share on the board if you are planning on keeping it for many years. Also don't rule out the socket 2011

Top
#940058 - 6th Apr 2015 4:14pm Re: Overclocking [Re: Excoriator]
Excoriator Online   content
Wise One

Registered: 21st Jan 2010
Posts: 817
Loc: wirral
OK. I'm going for the 'k'. In fact on Amazon they are about the same price, there are only pennies between them.

I am now looking at DDR3. I think 8GB will do for what I want for the time being, but I suspect I'll get better speed if I get it in two 4GB units. Is this correct? I would prefer to get it in one unit, then I can slowly add more to the 32GB limit of the board without having to junk memory and buy new.

Top
#940061 - 6th Apr 2015 4:33pm Re: Overclocking [Re: Excoriator]
Excoriator Online   content
Wise One

Registered: 21st Jan 2010
Posts: 817
Loc: wirral
I have a 250GB SSD I intend to use, by the way. The motherboard was chosen to do what I want at minimal cost.

I don't want to overegg things unless I am going to use them, but I have made sure that the disc drive I bought will burn m_discs though as I WILL want to store stuff reliably.

Top

Moderator:  Mark 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
vet fees
by eggandchips
12:01 AM
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead
by yoller
19th Feb 2017 7:53pm
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by paxvobiscum
18th Feb 2017 9:19pm
Patio work
by steamfan
18th Feb 2017 3:45pm
TS Indefatigable
by granny
18th Feb 2017 3:32pm
For Sale & Free
Samick Greg Bennett UK50 Ukulele
by j_demo
09:24 PM
2x Brit Floyd tickets 3rd March City entrance
by ambersmum
06:35 PM
Sherwood 2x30W amp with phono - £35; other hifi
by montyz
04:09 PM
Gaming pc
by Cjoshea
18th Feb 2017 9:47pm
ESCHENBACH Illuminated Magnifiers
by buddy
15th Feb 2017 1:12pm
Featured Member
Registered: 23rd Oct 2012
Posts: 55
Newest Members
CliveK, vonny, Vkj530, SunsetP, RachelBinns
12223 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by paxvobiscum
18th Feb 2017 9:19pm
Patio work
by steamfan
18th Feb 2017 3:45pm
Ceiling needs smoothing
by yr20405
15th Feb 2017 1:52am
Info? Bill Dobson, Photographer, Martins Bank
by diggingdeeper
13th Feb 2017 12:10pm
War Museum
by missmahjong
12th Feb 2017 1:24pm
News : New Topics
Hezballah
by venice
17th Feb 2017 11:15am
On-street parking charges dropped
by oldpm01
15th Feb 2017 9:10am
Thousands raised for children of cancer couple.
by fish5133
13th Feb 2017 3:01pm
Lost ladies Swarovski watch
by spider
13th Feb 2017 10:36am
M53 closed in both directions between J2 and J3
by diggingdeeper
9th Feb 2017 10:00pm
New Enthusiast Forums
vet fees
by eggandchips
12:01 AM
Sea Shepherd
by venice
16th Feb 2017 1:06pm
Sounds of the Sixties
by paxvobiscum
11th Feb 2017 8:53pm
Hospital
by cools
10th Feb 2017 9:53am
X Box One S
by rossie
9th Feb 2017 8:56am
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Tue 7:16am
Sunset Tue 5:35pm
Local Time Tue 8:04am
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me