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#929155 - 18th Feb 2015 11:40am Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral
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There is always something being said about masonry, a lot of which is inaccurate and always leaning towards negativity! As a mason for many years I can honestly say that masonry continues to be of great benefit to many of the national charities and plenty of those on the Wirral! Masonry has also been of great personal benefit for me (not financially) and has taught me a lot about myself.

Anyone interested in what masonry is all about, how they contribute to charity or if interested in joining should take a look at the newly updated Cheshire Masons Internet page! http://www.cheshiremasons.co.uk

Anyone wanting to know more can always get I touch and I will be happy to help further.

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#929158 - 18th Feb 2015 12:13pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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I can second that Brother, having been a member for 10 years.
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#929162 - 18th Feb 2015 12:30pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Hi Nigel - thank you for your reply. Good to hear of another brother enjoying and appreciating masonry and what it does for the Wirral! Be great to hear from some others!

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#929164 - 18th Feb 2015 12:50pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Do you need to be religious?

I take it we are talking about the society and not fancy brickwork?

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#929170 - 18th Feb 2015 1:20pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Hi DeanoBirko. Thanks for the question. Yes, this related to the society. The full answer as well as many other answers to frequently asked questions can be viewed here: http://www.cheshiremasons.co.uk/about/20-questions-and-answers/

In summary for those wondering the same:

Is it a religion?

No, neither is it a substitute for religion. There are no Sacraments. Every member expresses a belief in a “Supreme Being” and there are members of all faiths working harmoniously in Freemasonry.

If you need any further clarity please PM me and I would be happy to send my details and happy to discuss.

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#929180 - 18th Feb 2015 2:49pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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There must be a national recruitment drive on and one wonders why. Daughter's boyfriend in Kent has been approached also. Plus, why is it all such a bloody big secret? Nobody talks freely about it, that is the mystery ! Belonging to secret societies is always a concern, particularly in this day and age. Societies within societies !

If every member has to believe in a 'supreme being' , then I think some may tell lies also .
Don't certain members also belong to the 'Magic Circle'

A Secular Society, of which I think the word 'secular' should be re-established.

In this day and age 'men only' is very chauvinistic. Why is it men only, what do they do ? A few questions to be answered.


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#929181 - 18th Feb 2015 3:32pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
There must be a national recruitment drive on and one wonders why. Daughter's boyfriend in Kent has been approached also. Plus, why is it all such a bloody big secret? Nobody talks freely about it, that is the mystery ! Belonging to secret societies is always a concern, particularly in this day and age. Societies within societies !

If every member has to believe in a 'supreme being' , then I think some may tell lies also .
Don't certain members also belong to the 'Magic Circle'

A Secular Society, of which I think the word 'secular' should be re-established.

In this day and age 'men only' is very chauvinistic. Why is it men only, what do they do ? A few questions to be answered.
i could answer you but we are not allowed to divulge things.

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#929182 - 18th Feb 2015 3:32pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Giving to charity doesn't make a bad thing a good thing.

While in private business it is personal choice who you choose to do business with, here are many public officials that are members of the Free Masons and that is where the problem can arise. Free Masons swear to support fellow Free-Masons.
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#929183 - 18th Feb 2015 3:33pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Hi Granny - not at all!! (recruitment drive). As someone who lives on and loves the Wirral I personally wanted people of the Wirral to know more about masonry and how it benefits the Wirral as well as many other charities nationally!

It's not a secret society but rather a society with secrets. Those secrets are open to those who join so not a big secret at all! Some do get confused on this point!

And no, there is no connection (that I know of) re the magic circle!

It may surprise you to know that masonry is open to women! So not as chauvinistic as you think! https://www.owf.org.uk

We never shy away from questions hence the really good website that tries to help with any people may have!

My overall point is there are lots of masons who line on the Wirral and each and every one of them continue to support charity and in many cases a lot on the Wirral!

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#929184 - 18th Feb 2015 3:37pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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#929185 - 18th Feb 2015 3:46pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Hi diggingdeeper! I can assure you nothing in freemasory is 'bad'! I am sure you will hear from others who will support my statement here! If there was anything bad I can assure you I wouldn't be a mason full stop! Fact is I, and many others are and we do this to support society and do good!

It's a common misconception regarding masons helping each other in business! Feemasons are like minded people from all walks of life As freemasons we take great pride in supporting those in need which isn't so much about each other but society in general! Hence the donations made to some great charities!

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#929188 - 18th Feb 2015 3:57pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Hello Tait,Could a thoroughly good person who just happens, through no fault of his own,to live on benefits join the Masons? Or is it a case of no money no welcome?

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#929216 - 18th Feb 2015 4:56pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Hi ludwigvan. It's certainly not a case of no money and no welcome. I would bet that there will be masons, like yourself, who are currently unemployed through no fault of there own!

Of course there are fees (joining, member fees etc) but there are various ways that these can be paid which can differ from one lodge to another. It's certainly not expensive when you consider this on a yearly basis!

If you want to know more about this PM me some contact details and I will get in touch if you like. Hope the Masonic site was of interest to you and appreciate your question.

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#929224 - 18th Feb 2015 5:26pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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Hi Tait,thanks for the reply and I find it interesting that you assumed I was asking on my own behalf,it was a hypothetical question as it is a few years since I was in the employment market.I do find it reassuring however,to know I could join the Masons by installments.

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#929252 - 18th Feb 2015 6:38pm Re: Interested in Masonry? How does it benefit the Wirral [Re: Tait1969]
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It was a society with secrets. Its a society with secrets that anyone can find put about any way. If its not religious why do the 12 tribes of Israel feature in it

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