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#925495 - 3rd Feb 2015 7:17pm #GE15. Your Vote Matters
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http://act.goingtowork.org.uk/page/content/vote/

Voting matters more than you think: 5 facts you should know

It's a vicious circle: some people don't vote because politicians fail to offer them anything worth voting for. Politicians ignore them because they don't vote. But if reluctant voters make it to the ballot box, they may have more power than they think.

Interesting read, in my opinion anyway.
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#925498 - 3rd Feb 2015 7:34pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Yes, food for thought.....

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#925693 - 4th Feb 2015 12:06pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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It wasn't until 1928 that across-the-board voting rights were established for all women over the age of 21. My Dad was born when all women did not have the vote; it's not that long ago really. It winds me up that anyone wastes their vote, but particularly women. The linked article shows how the balance of political power could be changed if all the non-voters used their votes. Even if you wouldn't trust any politician as far as you could throw them, however affable they appear, don't just sit whingeing about how unfair it all is; vote for the least worst option that has some sort of political track record (i.e. not the Raving Loonies!) and see where things go from there.


Edited by Greenwood (4th Feb 2015 12:07pm)

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#925703 - 4th Feb 2015 2:37pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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No vote is wasted cast or not. The establishment know, the people who stopped voting stopped for a reason. "Explain how the balance of power would be changed". If tax is taken from you (including Vat)you are entitled to whine.Please do not take firewood rabbits or wild herbs from the woods, or metal detect on the beaches, do not forget your fishing rod licence and day pass, medieval mumbo jumbo from your rulers who think we still cant write X.The TUC sold the Miners and The Dockers out and have been taking the P since 1926 see the "History Of The Blue Union".NOW THAT IS A Rant!!

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#925708 - 4th Feb 2015 4:10pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: dustymclean]
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Originally Posted By: dustymclean
No vote is wasted cast or not. The establishment know, the people who stopped voting stopped for a reason. "Explain how the balance of power would be changed". If tax is taken from you (including Vat)you are entitled to whine.Please do not take firewood rabbits or wild herbs from the woods, or metal detect on the beaches, do not forget your fishing rod licence and day pass, medieval mumbo jumbo from your rulers who think we still cant write X.The TUC sold the Miners and The Dockers out and have been taking the P since 1926 see the "History Of The Blue Union".NOW THAT IS A Rant!!


Love the idea of a firewood rabbit.
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#925713 - 4th Feb 2015 4:29pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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You live and learn!,

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#925781 - 4th Feb 2015 10:15pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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everyone should vote

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#932000 - 3rd Mar 2015 5:02pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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I shared a link on facebook for people to check whether they are registered to vote. I was surprised at how many people thought they were but were in fact not, myself and Plus included!!!!

See here: https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

Info here: https://www.gov.uk/yourvotematters
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#932074 - 4th Mar 2015 12:27am Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Thanks Rudebox, followed the link and was amazed to find both myself and my OH were not listed either - sorted now.

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#932132 - 4th Mar 2015 7:04pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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If people are not registered to vote, how do they get away with the annual form which is posted to us for the Electoral Register ? It's supposed to be a criminal offence if you don't complete the form. According to ....gov ; If youíre asked to register and donít do so, your local Electoral Registration Office could fine you £80.
We get one each year to be updated if necessary. I think I'm talking about the right thing here.
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#932133 - 4th Mar 2015 7:10pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: dustymclean]
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Originally Posted By: dustymclean
No vote is wasted cast or not. The establishment know, the people who stopped voting stopped for a reason.


That would be true if the politicians had an ounce of morality. Unfortunately the people that get to the top are greedy go-getting career minded "politicians".

A protest vote to a party is more likely to have an affect.

I am left wing but don't feel I can vote for the labour party as I don't trust them whatsoever (I'm sure there are many people like that).

There is no way I can vote Tory, Thatcher herself admitted that her basic philosophy failed because the rich were greedier than she thought they would be. She firmly believed that if the rich where given wealth they would become more philanthropic (like many Victorian wealthy did), however it did not happen and she very humbly regretted this in later years.

Vote UKIP? I voted UKIP in European, firstly as a principle that I believe we should not gradually become part of the United States of Germany (the Nazi's had a back up plan during WW2 that is if they didn't take Europe over by force they would take it over by diplomacy and that is exactly what is happening). Secondly as a protest vote against the other major parties. It certainly got the point across when basically UKIP won those elections. I also think that Farage has matured as a politician, however in such a short period of time is this maturity stable?

Liberals - I just don't understand what their philosophy is and they seem to have a lot of hidden agendas. Sorry, I am quite ignorant of this party, I've tried to see where they come from but just find contradictions.

Greens - I have joined the green party, I agree with their basic concepts but unfortunately I disagree with about 80% of their manifesto. They are too easily fooled into jumping on bandwagons.

Respect - George Galloway is probably the single politician that I respect the most. He doesn't just say what is wrong, he also comes up with the way it should be done or corrected. I've listened to hundreds of videos of his speeches and interviews, he makes a lot of sense. My only concern is the pro-Europe stance. I would resign from the greens and vote Respect if we have a candidate. In fact, I might join Respect regardless, they are undoubtedly the best party IMHO.
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#932134 - 4th Mar 2015 7:20pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Yes Granny, I believe you are correct. I completed mine as usual yet following the link supplied was astonished to find that neither mine nor the OH were listed. Maybe its a case of waiting for databases to be added or combined but i'm glad I checked just in case - I never waste my vote. I believe most parties accept that if you do not vote then you are seen to think that things are good as they are. I will voting for the those that i believe are better than those that are left...it won't be the heartless snobs in power at the moment.


Edited by GeeMeister (4th Mar 2015 7:24pm)

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#932172 - 4th Mar 2015 8:57pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Geemeister, if you have had electoral cards through the door before, then you must be on the register. Maybe it's just another Government cock-up, or maybe it's the way forward so they have your email ready for the online vote, which is intended to happen in the not too distant future.
I've had emails from the Tories asking for donations. Firstly, why would that ask me for donations ?? Secondly how did they get my email ?

Greens are definitely off the list for me. Haven't seen anything in this area which impressed me, and that silly woman needs her vocal chords unravelling. Bad throat my arse, wouldn't last long if that excuse was given in the 'House' every time she fumbled her way through the day.

So far we have had only the Tories canvassing at the door. Told him a few home truths....and for Cameron to refer to child abuse being on an 'industrial scale' seems a tactless, thoughtless, expression of disgust to me. Failing to see the most sensitive aspect. If you see what I mean.

The thought of Milliband leading the country makes me cringe, our status in the world would slide far below the parapet.

George Galloway's party would have us fighting in the allies.

Ukip will have us fighting in the streets

Lib/Dems ??? Is there anybody out there ?

So what's left ? I think the whole thing is going to be a fiasco and my notebook is full of bad marks against the lot of them. Therefore, it's a case of counting up who has the most or least. We all have a task on our hands, I think !


Edited by granny (4th Mar 2015 9:08pm)
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#932175 - 4th Mar 2015 9:06pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Excerpt from facebook conversation with a mate who was fuming that she appeared not to be registered-

Me- .... did you ring the council up? What did they say? x
Yesterday at 17:27 ∑ Like

Friend- Yes and we are on the list. I proved to the bloke while I was on the phone with him that if I put my details into this it would come up with I wasnt on the list.........sure enough it did! The chap I spoke to says this is only for registering if you arent registered! I asked him why the hell it was saying people were not registered then..........he had no answer to that.
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#932176 - 4th Mar 2015 9:09pm Re: #GE15. Your Vote Matters [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Ideally, for me TUSC or Left Unity but I do not think that they are established enough yet. frown
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