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RUDEBOX #923550 25th Jan 2015 8:29pm
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Whoever does use the takeaways regularly are probably the first to shout about the failing NHS and blame the pensioners for the rising costs because they're getting too old and taking up resources !
Unfortunately, a lack of education must be part of the equation, but on whose part? She isn't taking the advice she's being given anyway .

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Bear in mind that the article was printed in a Tabloid. How much of her story has been edited for sensationalism?

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Originally Posted by granny
Whoever does use the takeaways regularly are probably the first to shout about the failing NHS and blame the pensioners for the rising costs because they're getting too old and taking up resources !
Bit of a generalised statement there, Granny. Did you see that goddam awful NHS debate, on TV, the other day?

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Whoever does use the takeaways regularly are probably the first to shout about the failing NHS and blame the pensioners for the rising costs because they're getting too old and taking up resources !
Bit of a generalised statement there, Granny. Did you see that goddam awful NHS debate, on TV, the other day?


No, why ?


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Fat people blaming nose - job people and visa-versa for the NHS 'failings'.

The panelists included two ex-big brother contestents, Michelle Heaton from LibertyX and Cheryl Baker from Bucks fizz!!!!

'Nuff said!!!!!

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Two thirds of England population and two thirds of the Welsh population are overweight, so that must ultimately have a huge impact on the NHS.
Nose jobs are surely, in most cases, cosmetic.
France pay for their health treatment which works out about £150 per month for two. If you remember, Tony Blair brought in a policy where we could travel abroad for our operations on the NHS. Maybe it was an attempt to unite Europe in one more way, thus eventually bringing in a backdoor charge for the service. If we watch what Europe does already, we can guarantee we will be following sooner or later.
Here we can have our NHS treatment under the private schemes now. So there is a combined service already.It won't matter which government is elected, their principles are the same on this, even if they each deny it. So personally, I will vote according to other issues.
If I was that young lady, I'd prefer to have the op done here, before she's shipped out.
We are not the only ones struggling. Australia is also and many others. Treatment has become very much more expensive with advancement in so many areas. We will have to pay one way or another eventually.

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I'm too fat to tie my own shoe laces, does anyone give a shit ? NO I just keep tripping over them at work. frown

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Originally Posted by granny

France pay for their health treatment which works out about £150 per month for two.


Bargain!, According to the breakdown from the HMRC on were my taxes went last year, my personal contribution to the health service was more than twice this amount per month, just for me.
But I don't begrudge it and wouldn't have it any other way, when I do need the services of the NHS I don't want an insurance company to decide if they wil pay for my treatment or not.

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You do know who originally initiated this privatisation , do you ?

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and? Do not assume that i vote Labour? laugh

Also, I have seen some links suggesting that Burnham/ Labour are not responsible for the first acts of privatisation at all? Will have a look for some 'evidence' tomorrow smile

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Nobody presumes anything but the flyer says : "We were given to understand by the Government that running Hitchinbrooke would bring us lots of cash "..etc.

That indicates or 'assumes' the present Government were the master planners, which they weren't.

I think it could be classed as falsification, or attempted distortion of the truth.


July 2007 – Department of Health gives the Strategic Health Authority approval to examine different options, including franchises.
July 2009 – Department of Health approves the business case for an open competitive tender for a franchise.
October 2009 – Open competitive tender announced and 11 organisations submit bids, six are selected to move to the next stage. Of those six, only one was NHS-only: Addenbrooke’s in Cambridge. Circle say there was no mention of a preferred provider at any point in the tender.
February 2010 - Addenbrooke’s pull out of the bidding process.
March 2010 – Shortlist for the franchise announced: Serco, Ramsay and Circle. Serco’s bid did include a partnership with Peterborough NHS Trust.(May 2010 – General Election in which Labour leaves office)
August 2010: shortlist narrowed to the final two: Serco and Circle.
November 2010 – Circle announced as preferred bidder.
November 2011 – Contract signed with Circle, which began work in February 2012.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/specta...chingbrooke-hospital-and-does-it-matter/


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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Do not assume that i vote Labour? laugh


I never assumed you would ever vote for such a right-wing party grin


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Do not assume that i vote Labour? laugh


I never assumed you would ever vote for such a right-wing party grin
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