Moreton Jeff and Xplore have you tried the metal detecting group in wirral? They meet in British Legion in Wallasey? thinking about trying it. Got my pointer by the way,Xplore. Got it from your mate Graeme Jeff. He's a lovely man to deal with, so friendly and ordered one day , came with post next day.Great! Don,t think I will be doing much till Spring, still practicing on the old shore by me, won,t find anything there tho, just easy to dig.