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#884159 - 28th Jun 2014 11:22pm Fracking on the Wirral
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Ester Mcvey apparently want's fracking to begin in the dee estuary, at the present time she is calling it simply exploratory tests.This could turn into a environmental disaster, if reports flooding in from the states is anything to go by. The wild life will be effected, the environment, house prices etc. If your concerned sign the petition below..

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/s...time=1402910951


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#884165 - 29th Jun 2014 12:10am Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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Watched the BBC's Horizon programme about this subject last year. I'm afraid those opposed to fracking are alarmists. The programme I saw was scientifically well researched and did not conclude that ecological disaster awaits us. I'm for anything that enables our country to provide energy sources independent of our potential enemies. Most of the anti fracking people, in my opinion, are left- wingers who have ulterior motives. Let's get the fracking going and let's keep warm. I make no apologies for refusing to sign this petition.

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#884166 - 29th Jun 2014 12:20am Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: Alonso]
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#884211 - 29th Jun 2014 12:01pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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#884213 - 29th Jun 2014 12:08pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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Signed and shared. Ridiculous idea to frack anywhere. I watch telly too, not affiliated politically. Trust me its going to get very warm, then very wet.

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#884215 - 29th Jun 2014 12:25pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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#884216 - 29th Jun 2014 12:28pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: casper]
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oh no the world is going to end!!!!!

scaremongering tree huggers.

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#884217 - 29th Jun 2014 12:35pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: mrhanky]
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Originally Posted By: mrhanky
oh no the world is going to end!!!!!

scaremongering tree huggers.


The world isn't going to end. Well, not for a good few million years yet. Climate change however is certainly going to fook over a large number of people.The Earth will survive, but many humans wont.
Think we need to be concentrating on nuclear and renewables for our future. It's a case of reduce carbon emissions or die. Literally!

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#884223 - 29th Jun 2014 1:51pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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During the thirteenth century this country endured 10 years of constant never ending rain and changes in temperatures. It caused famine on a huge scale, wiping out whole communities. Carbon emissions back then were negligible.
Fast forward a century or two to the middle- ages when frost fairs were held on the River Thames. Was that because of so called man-made climate change? I think not.
What is worrying politicians is the large numbers of people migrating north from the African continent and other regions from that latitude. They are moving north to escape poverty, famine, poor water supplies, pestilence and wars.
The consequences of these regional problems have caused politicians to have to raise taxes in order to offer the people the funds to better themselves, and that's why we are paying carbon emissions taxes. The monies raised are forwarded in the form of overseas aid...that therefore is what we are shelling out for.
Unfortunately much of the millions we, and other western countries supply is being stolen and used by the corrupt leaders of these third world countries in order to arm themselves and terrorise their own people, whilst living high on the hog themselves.
Fracking is going to happen, and has to happen in order for this nation to sustain itself in the centuries ahead.
I notice somebody who signed that petition, mentioned ridding us of the corporate giants. That's what the tree hugging left- wingers desire...control of everybody and everything; a form of Stalinism that benefits everybody, but it doesn't work and cannot work. Even the Chinese recognised that, that's why they abandoned collectivism. Thats also why the Berlin Wall was pulled down: people need to be free in order to make their own choices. If what's under the ground of British soil can fuel our energy supplies for centuries to come, making Britain and it's people wealthy through its industries then bring it on.
Who wants to rely upon Russia and the Middle East countries for energy forever?
It's insane to even consider it. They could easily pull the plug on us tomorrow and those of us who remember the power cuts of the seventies can all remember the turmoil that caused. Support fracking, it makes sense.

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#884230 - 29th Jun 2014 2:35pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: Alonso]
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I don't buy the hysteria surrounding global warming one bit and how raising taxes somehow miraculously stops climate change, i don't know, kinda makes me chuckle when someone says we need to pay higher taxes to stop climate change. I ask how raising taxes helps, and they often fidget around, desperately searching through their mind, trying to remember what they heard on the BBC,controlled media, which itself if a propaganda mouth piece for whatever the elite want you to believe. But fracking is causing major problems in the states. Do we really want to put the health and well being of our communities up for Sale, to allow corporate giants to destroy our environment. Anyone, who believes this will save the country, will make their lives wealthier and England stronger, is deluded. The E.U. are your owners now, we were sold out a long time ago. What they want they will get. Take off the rose coloured spectacles. When/If it all goes wrong they will say, lessons learned. No one will be prosecuted, no compensation will be given out. We are not broke, we pay the E.U. 120 billion pounds a year, to stay in this club. Hmmmm and yet i'm still hearing the deluded rantings of ill informed people, condoning the exploitation of our countryside, for Profit. Not to benefit you or me, but the elite. It's very sad


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokmsSi7LTY

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#884232 - 29th Jun 2014 2:52pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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Oil prices are at an all time low and yet in the u.k. we are still paying massively over the top prices at the pumps, with their green taxes and extortionate rates. Oh sure, the u.k. government will share the wealth with you. Turn your lives into a utopia, whilst living in a faceless ugly landscape full of toxins and waste. Grow up, how many times do governments have to kick you in the bollocks, before you finally get it. They do not care about you or me. We are cattle to them.


Edited by landl (29th Jun 2014 2:53pm)

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#884238 - 29th Jun 2014 3:29pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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i wonder, if everyone against fracking stopped using gas then surely there wouldn't be the need for all the extra gas?

i could be wrong though(as everyone who doesn't agree with the anti fracking brigade is) as will no doubt be pointed out.

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#884254 - 29th Jun 2014 4:47pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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Perhaps all the antis should move to France or Germany where Fracking is banned due to seismic and pollution concerns---now wheres my passport

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#884278 - 29th Jun 2014 5:52pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: fish5133]
landl Offline
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Well after some of the deeply insightful and intellectually profound responses (not), i've changed my opinion lol. oh dear !!! Jeez, we really are doomed with this level of intelligence parading around, as well informed human beings lol.



Edited by landl (29th Jun 2014 5:56pm)

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#884295 - 29th Jun 2014 7:55pm Re: Fracking on the Wirral [Re: landl]
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Originally Posted By: landl
Well after some of the deeply insightful and intellectually profound responses (not), i've changed my opinion lol. oh dear !!! Jeez, we really are doomed with this level of intelligence parading around, as well informed human beings lol.

Just because we don't possess your level of acumen, it doesn't mean that your opinion is superior to those whom you scorn. It's a good forum is this, and all opinions I'm sure are most welcome.

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