WikiWirral 13yrs online 24/7 365 days a year.
Forum Stats
12225 Members
65 Forums
72748 Topics
980528 Posts
91 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
103 registered (11kendo, 15 invisible), 1903 Guests and 214 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Doris is on her way 827
TS Indefatigable 496
Patio work 390
vet fees 330
Internet Explorer Not Working 321
Hezballah 280
Is This ART ? 221
Chef's knife. 204
Dangerous Tumble Dryers 172
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead 168
New General Forums
Is This ART ?
by granny
09:56 AM
Wirral track renewal
by snowhite
22nd Feb 2017 2:42pm
Ice in the 1800's
by granny
21st Feb 2017 9:47pm
Am I missing something ?
by dizdazdoz
16th Feb 2017 12:46pm
New Wirral History
Seeking old pictures of Egerton Street area, Birkenhead
by yoller
19th Feb 2017 7:53pm
TS Indefatigable
by granny
18th Feb 2017 3:32pm
RIP : Chris Kay
by granny
31st Aug 2016 9:25am
Children's home on the Overchurch
by xleahx
26th Apr 2011 7:01pm
423 Archers, Wirral Mark Rake, Wirral, Merseyside
by derekdwc
13th Sep 2009 10:50pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
Dangerous Tumble Dryers
by diggingdeeper
12:23 AM
Doris is on her way
by diggingdeeper
12:09 AM
Patio work
by rossie
09:34 PM
Sony Smartwatch 2
by Mike_Hoylake
09:25 PM
Chef's knife.
by lincle
08:51 PM
Aerial engineer
by Dilly
08:15 PM
roofers
by thisledous
06:33 PM
Is This ART ?
by starakita
03:33 PM
Brother printer
by NestonCYC
01:41 PM
February
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by venice
19th Feb 2017 12:19pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
13th Feb 2017 8:50pm
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#868483 - 3rd Apr 2014 6:52pm The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned
Kev30x Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 1st Mar 2010
Posts: 394
Loc: Tranmere
A man from Birkenhead has been banned from begging in Wirral.

Gareth Lambert, aged 28, from Oriel Road was given a five-year Anti-Social Behaviour Order (ASBO) banning him from approaching or engaging with any member of the public in any public place in Wirral to ask for money, cigarettes or to use their mobile phone.

Magistrates in Wirral have also forbidden him from causing harrassment, alarm or distress to any member of the public in Wirral and have given him an exclusion zone preventing him from entering the areas bounded by Union Street, Sidney Road, Allerton Road, Pearson Road, Argyle Street South, the flyover and Cambletown Road. This incorporates Rock Retail Park which is the area most affected by his offending.

Lambert received the ASBO on Friday, March 28 after he was sentenced at Wirral Magistrates' Court on March 12 for an offence of begging at Claughton Road, Birkenhead on January 29, 2014.

Neighbourhood Inspector Duncan Swan said the ASBO had been imposed to curb Lambert's offending and protect the community from his criminal behaviour.

Insp Swan said: "Gareth Lambert is a prolific beggar and the ASBO was brought about due to the high number of complaints received from members of the public.

"He often targets women with young children or the elderly and would follow them causing intimidation and distress. He used a plethora of reasons why he needed money often carrying a petrol can as a prop. He could sound very convincing but would
frequently turn hostile. He persistently targeted vulnerable victims despite constant warnings and continued to loiter in car parks and shopping areas making victims feel intimidated."

He added: "The public need to be aware of Gareth Lambert's persistent offending and the conditions that the court has imposed on him.

"The local community that has been affected by his criminal behaviour can act as our eyes and ears for ensuring that Lambert lives by the conditions. If anyone sees him begging, causing intimidation or entering his exclusion zone I would urge them to pass that information on to the police.

"Breaching the conditions of an ASBO is a serious matter and I hope that this sends out a strong message to other persistent offenders that the courts and the police will not tolerate a small number of individuals affecting the wider community."

(He has begged from me in Rock Retail park, Tesco on Borough road and Home Bargains Car park in Prenton asking for any spare change each time, sounds like he is from down south, always seem's polite enough when knocked back, but he's obviously a typical Sh*tbag who is more pushy with women and elderly people. Im sure a few on here have come across him begging. He always carries a string Jd sports bag over his shoulder.


Edited by Kev30x (3rd Apr 2014 6:57pm)

Top
Local News : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

WikiWirral Numbers : Between 150 and 200 New Members Every Month. With Over 3,500 unique visits and 35,000 Page Views each day. Average +500 Search Engines Daily and over 1,000,000 Million Page views a Month. Advertising from £20 . Click Me
#868495 - 3rd Apr 2014 8:04pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: Kev30x]
j_demo Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 4th Nov 2011
Posts: 1854
Loc: Wallasey/New Brighton
thing is, this says wirral. i'm 99.5% certain that he's asked me for change etc in liverpool, i know because he asked me while i was up by the bombed out church one day heading to richer sounds, then later that day head to mcdonalds in rock retail park and he asked me again, clearly forgetting he'd asked me a couple of hours earlier... does he not have a hobby or something??? go to museums and walk round, they're still free aren't they...

Top
#868500 - 3rd Apr 2014 8:40pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: Kev30x]
brady Offline
Guardian

Registered: 16th Oct 2010
Posts: 964
Loc: liverpool
I thought that was Dirk Kuyt for a min there lol

Top
#868572 - 4th Apr 2014 8:27am Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: j_demo]
MikeT Online   content
Smartchild

Registered: 23rd Apr 2010
Posts: 543
Loc: Canary Islands :)
Originally Posted By: j_demo
thing is, this says wirral. i'm 99.5% certain that he's asked me for change etc in liverpool,


There's a guy that begs in Sir Thomas Street in Liverpool around the bus stops there. Doesn't look unlike this one, but not as blond and with no beard. Seems to target single women and anyone with an expensive phone in their hand.

Top
#868577 - 4th Apr 2014 9:20am Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: Kev30x]
_Ste_ Offline


Wiki Master

Registered: 7th Aug 2005
Posts: 15986
Loc: New Brighton
STINGEBAGS! laugh
_________________________


http://www.youtube.com/user/stetopop

Top
#868598 - 4th Apr 2014 1:25pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: Kev30x]
granny Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Jun 2011
Posts: 13867
Loc: Wirral
Ian O'Doherty also a beggar, until he met with human approval. Then he became a hero !

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/column...e-26749758.html
_________________________
...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.FN

Top
#868602 - 4th Apr 2014 1:44pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: granny]
granny Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Jun 2011
Posts: 13867
Loc: Wirral
Originally Posted By: granny
Ian O'Doherty article: John Byrne also a beggar, until he met with human approval. Then he became a hero !

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/column...e-26749758.html


Sorry, John Byrne was the man who saved his bunny.
_________________________
...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.FN

Top
#868614 - 4th Apr 2014 2:43pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: Kev30x]
rhoobarb2002 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 13th Aug 2011
Posts: 677
Loc: Wirral
I have nothing against homeless and others in desperate situations, life is cruel and as such I may end up in the same situation one day, as may all of us.
The problem I see is that, aside from the usual 'you don't know what he really is spending the money on' argument, this guy doesn't just beg, he harasses you for money.
Twice I have been hassled by him around Lidl. The first time he asked for money so he could get the bus home to somewhere out in the sticks or something. I had no money as I only really use cards, but he kept asking me again if I had money.
The second time I was in my car waiting to turn toward Well Lane and he knocked the window and started asking for money for food!
He had a shaved head and no beard then.
He does not just say OK and leave you alone, he pesters you, blocking your way, etc, and he acts manic, incredibly jumpy and jittery, no wonder people were intimidated by him. Who knows if he wouldn't pull a knife or something.
I have seen him approach others too, some he just asks once, others he hassles.
He has targeted my daughter before who has fear and anxiety issues, and despite being told she didn't have money, followed her to keep asking and really upset her.
Have you ever known another beggar to be slapped with an ASBO?

Perhaps he has mental issues, but, he obviously knows he can intimidate some people, coercion by intimidation is just not on.

On the note of 'where does the money go?', a woman was begging in the Rock Ferry Retail car park, in the same place this guy hangs around funnily enough. She asked me if she could have a pound to get some food, I said I would do one better and buy a bag of chips from the chippy 10 feet away for her, she pulled a face and said no thanks. smirk


Edited by rhoobarb2002 (4th Apr 2014 2:44pm)

Top
#868622 - 4th Apr 2014 3:58pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: rhoobarb2002]
ann12 Offline
Newbeee

Registered: 7th Feb 2010
Posts: 14
Loc: wirral
this man is not homeless. he lives in oriel road with a wife/girlfriend and a child

Top
#868630 - 4th Apr 2014 5:16pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: ann12]
rhoobarb2002 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 13th Aug 2011
Posts: 677
Loc: Wirral
Originally Posted By: ann12
this man is not homeless. he lives in oriel road with a wife/girlfriend and a child


Yes it said in the original post, that is why I said "..and desperate situations" as a general comment towards all, not one individual in particular. Living in a house does not mean you are living well.


Edited by rhoobarb2002 (4th Apr 2014 5:17pm)

Top
#868690 - 4th Apr 2014 9:53pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: _Ste_]
ZipperClub Offline
Wiki Addict

Registered: 2nd Dec 2012
Posts: 7253
Loc: Our House In Our Road
Originally Posted By: _Ste_
STINGEBAGS! laugh

And Ste`s quote from another thread..

"Now, Theres the kid from birkenhead who has just recieved an asbo banning him from parts of the area due to begging.
This dude has no money obviously so he's asking for help and look what happens!
Great help that aint it?"

"people are so stingey these days, cant even put their hands in their pockets for a measly quid???"

from original post..
"He often targets women with young children or the elderly and would follow them causing intimidation and distress."

Oh, so this is fine with Ste, maybe Ste would like this man to follow his missus.


Edited by ZipperClub (4th Apr 2014 9:57pm)
_________________________
One Way Or Another

Top
#868693 - 4th Apr 2014 10:18pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: Kev30x]
RUDEBOX Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Aug 2008
Posts: 19082
Loc: Bob Land
I think that this fellas 'technique' appears to be all wrong obvs- you can't go around intimidating the public for money....

However, there ARE genuine desperate, destitute people out there....breaks my heart how people judge and condemn them.

Desperate situations lead to desperate actions, unfortunately. I can only assume 'moral codes' alter too.

I personally, when I can would prefer to buy a homeless person a cup of tea and a butty or something...a friend accused me of being judgemental/ selective.

Her point was that if a person has been reduced to living on the streets due to addiction (whether drugs/ alcohol/ gambling etc) then who am I to judge how they spend 'my' paltry donation. £2 towards tea/ food/ cider/ heroin is only going to be a temporary relief, whether that be food/ drink/ warmth/ comfort.....

Made me think, anyhow.
_________________________
Mia Mabel


Top
#868694 - 4th Apr 2014 10:22pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: j_demo]
RUDEBOX Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Aug 2008
Posts: 19082
Loc: Bob Land
Originally Posted By: j_demo
does he not have a hobby or something??? go to museums and walk round, they're still free aren't they...
Yes, but food, drink and warmth generally are not. (Applicable to all desperate people- not just this character).
_________________________
Mia Mabel


Top
#868702 - 4th Apr 2014 10:58pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: Kev30x]
snowhite Offline

Wiki Guide

Registered: 31st Jan 2014
Posts: 5651
Loc: Wirral
Its happening everywhere these days, begging for booze or fags.best idea is go into a shop and buy them a burger or a hot drink.I bet a bottom dollar they will want the money rather than anyone buying food.

Top
#868705 - 4th Apr 2014 11:04pm Re: The Rock Retail Park Begging Pest Finally Banned [Re: snowhite]
ZipperClub Offline
Wiki Addict

Registered: 2nd Dec 2012
Posts: 7253
Loc: Our House In Our Road
they don't need to work, they get more money begging.
_________________________
One Way Or Another

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >

Moderator:  Mod 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Aerial engineer
by ponytail
06:01 PM
roofers
by thisledous
04:44 PM
Chef's knife.
by Beethoven
12:39 PM
Is This ART ?
by granny
09:56 AM
Doris is on her way
by granny
22nd Feb 2017 8:43pm
For Sale & Free
Sony Smartwatch 2
by Mike_Hoylake
09:25 PM
Brother printer
by saltytom
11:02 AM
Mk6 Golf TDI 1.6
by Cjoshea
22nd Feb 2017 11:05pm
TV wall mount wanted.
by j_demo
21st Feb 2017 7:53pm
Samick Greg Bennett UK50 Ukulele
by j_demo
20th Feb 2017 9:24pm
Featured Member
Registered: 25th Nov 2007
Posts: 405
Newest Members
Bradshawbatho, raybb, CliveK, vonny, Vkj530
12225 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Aerial engineer
by ponytail
06:01 PM
roofers
by thisledous
04:44 PM
Lion Salt Works/Weaver Hall Museum
by paxvobiscum
18th Feb 2017 9:19pm
Patio work
by steamfan
18th Feb 2017 3:45pm
Ceiling needs smoothing
by yr20405
15th Feb 2017 1:52am
News : New Topics
Dangerous Tumble Dryers
by diggingdeeper
02:03 PM
Doris is on her way
by granny
22nd Feb 2017 8:43pm
Hezballah
by venice
17th Feb 2017 11:15am
On-street parking charges dropped
by oldpm01
15th Feb 2017 9:10am
Thousands raised for children of cancer couple.
by fish5133
13th Feb 2017 3:01pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Chef's knife.
by Beethoven
12:39 PM
irish music entertainer for St Patrick's night
by kazaroo
22nd Feb 2017 3:07pm
Internet Explorer Not Working
by fish5133
22nd Feb 2017 12:25am
vet fees
by eggandchips
20th Feb 2017 12:01am
Sea Shepherd
by venice
16th Feb 2017 1:06pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Is This ART ? 221
Chef's knife. 204
Dangerous Tumble Dryers 172
roofers 131
Aerial engineer 116
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Fri 7:09am
Sunset Fri 5:41pm
Local Time Fri 1:47am
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me