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#864482 - 14th Mar 2014 8:28am Missing Flight Flight MH370
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MH370 live: Missing Malaysian plane could have flown on for another FOUR HOURS after it disappeared from radar

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3239624

Is anyone else following this?
How weird?

Not to be disrespectful to those involved you cant help but think of "Lost" (TV Series) fictional yes but with all the eyes in the sky satellites and and more how can it just vanish ? Its crazy to think it can.
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#864488 - 14th Mar 2014 8:49am Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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A little bit Bermuda triangle:ish.


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#864550 - 14th Mar 2014 11:36am Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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I`ve been following this myself, maybe they`re lacking the equipment or means to locate it, if they get close enough they should be able to pick up the distress beacon"depth depending" which has a limited battery life of a month I believe.

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#864553 - 14th Mar 2014 11:59am Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Vanmanone]
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Rolls Royce will have data on the performance of the engines through the in-built data monitoring systems. They should know exactly when the engines stopped running.
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#864851 - 15th Mar 2014 12:54pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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This seems to be getting more confusing and more bizarre by the day.
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#864866 - 15th Mar 2014 4:00pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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Hard to imagine what the loved ones/relatives are having to go through. Thoughts go out to them..........

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#864868 - 15th Mar 2014 4:25pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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The relatives and friends must be torn apart.

If they are now sifting through the pilots home, obviously suspecting him of being involved, I can't understand that if he has landed somewhere, why none of the passengers have been able to make the briefest phone call.
Just one contact would indicate there was survival. If they have had their phones confiscated, can't imagine the pilot has been able to do that on his own. Surely, someone would have kicked off.
That's just a thought.
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#865183 - 16th Mar 2014 9:18pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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Jamming devices to jam mobiles and onboard electronics? Wouldnt necessarily stop the satelite pinging. Think the yanks have such a device using EMP to stop would be bombers triggering bombs electronically.

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#865258 - 17th Mar 2014 10:25am Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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I think the authorities know more than they are letting on, spooks, behind the scenes dealings, somewhat like Entebbe who knows, the next few days will tell us more maybe

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#865271 - 17th Mar 2014 12:01pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: granny]
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Jamming devices to jam mobiles and onboard electronics? Wouldnt necessarily stop the satelite pinging. Think the yanks have such a device using EMP to stop would be bombers triggering bombs electronically.
LOL fish, you been playing too much splinter cell.

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I think the authorities know more than they are letting on, spooks, behind the scenes dealings, somewhat like Entebbe who knows, the next few days will tell us more maybe
Yes casper, like the 9/11 only people think your mad for thinking so.

Originally Posted By: granny
This seems to be getting more confusing and more bizarre by the day.



There was no plane
there were no young immigrants with stolen passports

or

There was a plane
upon entering vietnam airspace it entered a third dimension turning the plane into mush and its passangers back into little monkeys.

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#865395 - 17th Mar 2014 8:15pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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#865396 - 17th Mar 2014 8:22pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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Wow still how in this modern day and age, if there is anyone behind it, it must have been very very well planed out. As far as to say as planned as 9/11 dare i say it that way.

It would be amazing to find the plane and passengers alive and well. Its just one of them bermuda triangle stories truly unbelievable.
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#865432 - 17th Mar 2014 10:51pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
Originally Posted By: fish5133
Jamming devices to jam mobiles and onboard electronics? Wouldnt necessarily stop the satelite pinging. Think the yanks have such a device using EMP to stop would be bombers triggering bombs electronically.
LOL fish, you been playing too much splinter cell.

Originally Posted By: casper
I think the authorities know more than they are letting on, spooks, behind the scenes dealings, somewhat like Entebbe who knows, the next few days will tell us more maybe
Yes casper, like the 9/11 only people think your mad for thinking so.

Originally Posted By: granny
This seems to be getting more confusing and more bizarre by the day.



There was no plane
there were no young immigrants with stolen passports

or

There was a plane
upon entering vietnam airspace it entered a third dimension turning the plane into mush and its passangers back into little monkeys.

Dont believe everything you read or everything you see.



You obviously do Ste, or you wouldn't be quoting us all! grin
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#865438 - 17th Mar 2014 11:26pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: Mark]
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370 may have been hacked in the world’s first “cyber-hijack,” claims a British anti-terrorism expert.

Former Home Office scientific adviser Sally Leivesley said that hijackers may have changed the plane’s speed, direction, and altitude via radio signals to the plane’s flight management system, reported the Sydney Morning Herald.

The plane could have then been crashed or landed, Leivesley continued, according to the Herald, which cited the Sunday Express newspaper in London.

Leivesley’s theory is one of many as to what happened to the missing plane, which had 239 people on board. It hasn’t been seen or heard from since March 8 when it was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Malaysian officials said over the weekend that the plane’s disappearance was a deliberate act, and police started searching the homes of the jet’s pilot and co-pilot.

Leivesley said that she believes malicious codes could have overcome the plane’s security.

“This is a very early version of what I would call a smart plane, a fly-by-wire aircraft controlled by electronic signals,” she said. “There appears to be an element of planning from someone with a very sophisticated systems engineering understanding,” she added.

Leivesley continued: “It is looking more and more likely that the control of some systems was taken over in a deceptive manner, either manually, so someone sitting in a seat overriding the autopilot, or via a remote device turning off or overwhelming the systems.

“A mobile phone could have been used to do so or a USB stick. When the plane is air-side, you can insert a set of commands and codes that may initiate, on signal, a set of processes.”

Leivesley told the paper that she was notified of this kind of hacking threat last year while at a conference. “What we are finding now is that it is possible with a mobile phone to initiate a signal to a preset piece of malicious software, or malware, in the computer that initiates a whole set of instructions,’’ she said.

“It is possible for hackers — be they part of organised crime or with government backgrounds — to get into the main computer network of the plane through the inflight, onboard entertainment system,” she continued.

In 2013, at the Hack in the Box conference, security researcher Hugo Teso went on stage and took out his phone. He accessed an app, Planesploit, that he coded himself, which he said could affect a plane’s navigation systems.

Teso, who is a researcher, said that he could theoretically change a plane’s route and make it crash with the app. He reportedly did a demonstration on stage to show that systems on board planes are vulnerable.

But U.S. air regulators said that his app wasn’t possible.

“The hacking technique described during a recent computer security conference does not pose a flight safety concern because it does not work on certified flight hardware. The described technique cannot engage or control the aircraft’s autopilot system using the FMS or prevent a pilot from overriding the autopilot. Therefore, a hacker cannot obtain ‘full control of an aircraft’ as the technology consultant has claimed,” the FAA said, according to Net-Security.

And the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) downplayed Teso’s findings, saying that embedded software has a “robustness that is not present on ground-based simulation software.”

Rockwell Collins wrote a commentary for Forbes that said, “Today’s certified avionics systems are designed and built with high levels of redundancy and security,” adding that Teso’s research “involves testing with virtual aircraft in a lab environment, which is not analogous to certified aircraft and systems operating in regulated airspace.”

Trend Micro, a security company, said in October 2013 that “vulnerabilities” have been “discovered in global vessel tracking systems.”

“Trend Micro researchers have discovered that flaws in the [Automatic Identification System]AIS vessel tracking system can allow attackers to hijack communications of existing vessels, create fake vessels, trigger false SOS or collision alerts and even permanently disable AIS tracking on any vessel,” the firm wrote.

The AIS is a “a mandatory vessel tracking system for all commercial (non-fishing) ships over 300 metric tons, as well as passenger ships (regardless of size and weight). AIS works by acquiring GPS coordinates and exchanging a vessel’s position, course and information with nearby ships and offshore installations. It is currently installed in around 400,000 vessels.”

AIS, it says, is but one example of “a mandatory vessel tracking system for all commercial (non-fishing) ships over 300 metric tons, as well as passenger ships (regardless of size and weight). AIS works by acquiring GPS coordinates and exchanging a vessel’s position, course and information with nearby ships and offshore installations. It is currently installed in around 400,000 vessels.”

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#865444 - 17th Mar 2014 11:44pm Re: Missing Flight Flight MH370 [Re: fish5133]
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