WikiWirral Wirral's Biggest Online Forum
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics76,361
Posts1,033,314
Members14,578
Most Online16,551
Feb 2nd, 2024
Who's Online Now
14 members (4 invisible), 9,809 guests, and 480 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters
sunnyside 45,164
MattLFC 22,315
Mark 21,269
granny 17,788
_Ste_ 16,345
Newest Members
PaulRobson, meolswanderer, Firminafirm, YesterYearGenea, Luke121
14,578 Registered Users
New General Forums
Hi to everyone
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 1:18pm
Last person to post wins...
by GaryB - 9th Oct 2007 9:15pm
New Wirral History
Moreton History
by IanFife - 1st Apr 2024 1:03pm
Campbell Terrace, behind old St. Andrew's Church on Conway
by KimTheilmann1 - 31st Mar 2024 3:34pm
Tall Brick Chimneys
by diggingdeeper - 16th Mar 2024 12:56pm
Through the Window: GWR Paddington to Birkenhead
by yoller - 16th Aug 2017 7:09pm
Old Hall in Higher Bebington
by Rhoobarb - 25th May 2010 6:55pm
Top Posters(30 Days)
bert1 5
casper 4
Topic Replies
recommendation, please
by muzzy2 - 16th Apr 2024 7:39pm
Car paint jobs
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 9:54pm
Hi to everyone
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 1:18pm
Traffic Wardens
by diggingdeeper - 14th Apr 2024 2:42pm
West Kirby flood defences
by Excoriator - 13th Apr 2024 3:35pm
Lost river (Well, brook really)
by diggingdeeper - 10th Apr 2024 11:00pm
Any Decent Restaurant Open On a Mon Evening.
by Abakumss - 8th Apr 2024 9:04am
Paddle Steamer Waverley
by casper - 6th Apr 2024 9:09am
Wirral waters
by casper - 6th Apr 2024 9:07am
April
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
Kylix 1
casper 1
cools 1
Top Likes Received
bert1 14
casper 4
Mark 4
granny 3
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#861801 2nd Mar 2014 4:10pm
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 142
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 142
My doc advised my to start on statins as my cholesterol level is 5.9. I decided against it as I have no other health problems eg diabetes, high blood pressure, over-weight etc. So glad - read this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/health

Google Ads
Bizzybee1 #861828 2nd Mar 2014 6:08pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
Forum Addict
Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
A cholesterol level of 5.9 is not a disaster but it is high. I was prescribed statins some 5 years ago (I have slightly high average blood pressure and especially a very variable blood pressure). The initial type was Simvastatin (very low cost material) and I DID suffer joint pains. I told the doc who switched me to the slightly more costly Pravastatin and that has absolutely no side effects. These two have the same end result ie they DO reduce cholesterol, but they operate by quite different mechanisms. I was told that if I still has and user problems with Pravastatin then there is a third type.

So I had problems with Simvastatin but none with Pravastatin. Other folk have it totally the other way around - you just need to persevere and find the "right one" for you

They do work

Happy at Cholesterol = 1.9

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
Bizzybee1 #861829 2nd Mar 2014 6:10pm
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 256
Addict
Offline
Addict
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 256
Been taking them for about 5 years now. My cholesterol levels were about the same as yours. Haven't smoked for more than forty years and there is no history of heart troubles in the family. Nevertheless my GP was on my case to try them. I go each year for the full blood tests and my liver and kidney functions as well as cholesterol levels are normal. So I suppose I will continue to take them until they give me a reason not to.
The trouble with the Express is that they have regular headlines, sometimes for and sometimes against statins.
The web has many forums in which you can read of nightmare stories written by people who have had adverse reactions. But there are millions like me who are on them who we never here from. In fact it's not that long ago that the Express published an article that stated statin users were likely to live much longer and healthier lives. But that has to depend on other circumstances, diet, exercise etc.
I think they change like the wind. Their weather reports are just as inaccurate as their ideas about statins.
I'm 68 and if they help me to get another 10 years feeling as healthy as I do now I'll be happy.

Snodvan #861876 2nd Mar 2014 8:00pm
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,086
Forum Veteran
Offline
Forum Veteran
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,086


They do work

Happy at Cholesterol = 1.9

Snod [/quote]

Wow Snod, cholestereol 1.9!!

I've been on lowest dose of statin for about 10 years (original cholesterol level 5.6)and I thought my level at 3.1 was good!

Bizzybee1 #861888 2nd Mar 2014 8:15pm
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,044
Forum Guardian
Offline
Forum Guardian
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,044
better and safer way to reduce the high wrong cholesterol is to take vitamin B3 otherwise called Niacin. The straigt niacin can cause intial flushing of skin but it stops after been taking for a few days. You can also get a niacinamide which doesnt cause flush but need to check if its as effective. Do some research on getting the right dosage. Big pharma keep it quiet as theres not enough money in it.
Niacin is added in small doses to flour and also in marmite, sugar puffs and shreddies but levels may not be high enough to be cholesterol reducing-

Bizzybee1 #861950 2nd Mar 2014 10:16pm
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,925
Forum Addict
Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,925
the way i see it is that it wouldn't be prescribed/recommended if it wasn't beneficial. Drugs have to pass so many tests and checks and years of research to be on the market under prescription.

EVERY drug has side effects, it's just a case of each individual is treated differently, if there were identical twins each prescribed something, one may react differently than the other.

name any drug and i can guarantee it has some side effects. whether it be a case where the benefits outweigh the negative effects or that allergic reaction may occur.

j_demo #861967 2nd Mar 2014 10:59pm
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
Wiki Addict
Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by j_demo
the way i see it is that it wouldn't be prescribed/recommended if it wasn't beneficial. Drugs have to pass so many tests and checks and years of research to be on the market under prescription.
.

This is dated Jun 8, 2011.. nearly 3 years ago.. read this and I take 80mg daily and take Amiodarone
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Cardiology/Dyslipidemia/26950
So how many years do they want to test it j_demo?

I only Googled "mg statin" and got loads of bad news about statin

Last edited by ZipperClub; 2nd Mar 2014 11:02pm.
Bizzybee1 #861972 2nd Mar 2014 11:07pm
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446
Everybody has the right to accept/ reject professional medical advice but I would certainly not base any personal decision on an article read in the Daily Express!!!

RUDEBOX #861975 2nd Mar 2014 11:15pm
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
Wiki Addict
Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
that's why I searched the net and got the same results as you always diss stuff you don't like personally.

ZipperClub #861982 2nd Mar 2014 11:44pm
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446
Originally Posted by ZipperClub
don't like personally.
Goes a bit deeper than that, but yes I get ya jist.

Bizzybee1 #861990 3rd Mar 2014 1:05am
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 43
Newbeee
Offline
Newbeee
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 43
Who do you trust most, the express reporter or your doctor, I had a heart attack 10 years ago I am on pravastatin it keeps my cholestrol down. TRUST YOUR DOCTOR, all medication can have side effects for different people, your doctor will find one to suit you, WILL THE EXPRESS NO!!

lord_thomas #861991 3rd Mar 2014 1:20am
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
Wiki Addict
Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
Sod the Express, all on the net says bad stuff about high doses of statins.

Bizzybee1 #862028 3rd Mar 2014 10:00am
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 142
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 142
Express ? ok! - (spit). But the source is the Chairman of the British Medical Association. They don't come much more respectable.

Bizzybee1 #862045 3rd Mar 2014 12:54pm
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,848
Likes: 3
Forum Addict
Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,848
Likes: 3
I seem to recall reading somewhere that doctors get paid more money if they manage to reduce the cholesterol levels of their patients below a certain level.

I'm not saying that this is a bad thing in itself, but it makes it more likely that statins will be prescribed. Probably easier to do this than to change people's dietary habits.

They may give some folk unpleasant side effects, in which case stop taking them. But fewer and fewer people are suffering heart attacks and strokes since these things have appeared so they must be doing SOME good.

Bizzybee1 #862087 3rd Mar 2014 4:42pm
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
Wiki Addict
Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,253
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by NickLeg
Express ? ok! - (spit). But the source is the Chairman of the British Medical Association. They don't come much more respectable.

Spot on. I`m on 80mg a day and already had heart attacks and a triple heart bypass. My legs feel like I have knives going through them most of the time. On a bad night they can keep me up most of the night. I fall asleep at about 7 am then sleep completely knackered till about 3pm. What a wonderful life!.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Mod 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
recommendation, please
by muzzy2 - 16th Apr 2024 7:39pm
Car paint jobs
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 9:54pm
Hi to everyone
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 1:18pm
Traffic Wardens
by Excoriator - 11th Apr 2024 4:11pm
West Kirby flood defences
by Excoriator - 10th Apr 2024 10:45pm
For Sale & Free
Wisper electric bike. 36v .
by Dilly - 21st Mar 2024 8:36pm
This is Elvis
by GingerTom - 17th Mar 2024 3:37pm
Member Spotlight
diggingdeeper
diggingdeeper
Wirral
Posts: 14,350
Joined: July 2008
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
New Wirral Info
recommendation, please
by muzzy2 - 16th Apr 2024 7:39pm
Traffic Wardens
by Excoriator - 11th Apr 2024 4:11pm
Paddle Steamer Waverley
by diggingdeeper - 5th Apr 2024 7:57am
Wirral waters
by casper - 2nd Apr 2024 11:32am
Facial recognition coming in supermarkets?
by Excoriator - 27th Mar 2024 11:52am
News : New Topics
West Kirby flood defences
by Excoriator - 10th Apr 2024 10:45pm
Lost river (Well, brook really)
by Excoriator - 10th Sep 2019 9:50am
New Enthusiast Forums
Car paint jobs
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 9:54pm
Netflix 3 Body Problem.
by BultacoAstro - 22nd Mar 2024 9:04am
Any Decent Restaurant Open On a Mon Evening.
by Uffda - 21st Oct 2012 7:16pm
What song are you listening to?
by - 24th Jun 2007 10:06am
Popular Topics(Views)
5,071,120 WIKI WALK CHAT
4,017,119 Spotted!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5