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Sad that the lack of opportunity is translated into a statistical comparison with a dictatorship country. But hey its the Echo, complete with Editor Ali (Cannabis Farm) Macray, surprised there is only one reference to Cannabis Farms in the story.

Fact is many areas of Merseyside suffer from a lack of opportunity, in many cases these are historical issues that have never been dealt with by our chosen leaders.

Fact is there are few proper jobs, new businesses struggle to grow, the Mersey divide of business support services and how larger contracts are commissioned and awarded on each side of the river means that there can be a postcode benefit to where you run your business from.

If we grow our economies then Wirral people have a bright future ahead.

We need better business support and representation (New Wirral Chamber in the offing already)

We need better visibility in what we offer to the world and each other (down to one local free paper and a few small local media offers) We rely on Liverpool and Wales to represent us....not good.

We need to remove the costly wirral tax (tunnels)

We should offer free parking and only fine bad parking at our shopping centres.

We should all take responsibility for improvement, this forum is a great example of exactly that. (Cheers again Mark)

Turning round our fortunes will translate into hopes, aspirations and plans, eventually this will result in lower crime and increased health.

Or we could just wait for the next damning piece of research to be published that will feed our already jaded view of the peninsula.

The only winner with that story was Trinity Mirror, dont see them starting a campaign on our behalf anytime soon

K

From redundancy pay. Having said that, the money needed was a bank stipulation and in fact I needed nothing as my business was a consultancy. the initial deposit grew so that what I was asked to pay in by the bank seemed to be just a bank scam to make you borrow money. I paid it back after month 1. Incidentally to say self employment is bleak, could put many off this option, but I thoroughly recommend it.

When I said 'start a business' naturally I wasn't referring to you in particular but you said there were no jobs about, when there clearly are. Becoming an employee is not the only option in town as you can now see.

I too am a tax paying OAP or senior citizen as we are now called, maybe even a silver surfer, whatever the name or category you are in is irrelevant. If you cannot find a job then you must be looking for one by definition.

Why did you stipulate the following? "Keep your answer polite and within the Wiki Rules please." I just do not see the need for any stipulation whatsoever.

It was a request, stipulate is to strong a word.I wish to be and stay friendly. I look forward to future posts, feel free to respond in a polite and friendly manner.

I hope I always do. I just wondered why you felt you had to make such an unnecessary request.

Try looking for a birthday banner for a 90 year old on the Wirral, and you will get one easily in West Kirby. That speaks for itself.

Agree with you fully, but most of the people who fail to achieve in this life fail because they come from a long line of failures. It's getting those people to break the mould. Unfortunately forty years of living off benefits and expecting the state to provide free everything has trapped those generations of people, deliberately I would suggest into remaining in their environments, where they are comfortable and close to their family and friends who are mostly in the same situation. Betting shop chains and cheap booze are there for their recreation, which happen to be available for them every day of the week nowadays.
Many families escaped from the River Streets in the North End of the town only to find themselves living in areas of the town where they were no better off. The labouring classes have no manual work left for them in Birkenhead, and many similar towns like it. What labouring work there is ,is taken up by immigrants. Our own people won't do the jobs that immigrants will. And it's not going to change this side of hell freezing over. This situation will continue long after Frank Field and his kind depart this mortal coil. Nobody has the political will to change things. So why should the labouring classes? It's a mess and an unsolvable one at that.

Yeah! Lets give up,

lets do it together.

Dear David Cameron,

We the Wirral realise that there is no point in trying to create a better life, please accept this letter as confirmation of our surrender. Can you send some mittens, slippers and a 180,000 balaclavas embroidered with "Quitters" on the back.

Many Thanks

The Wirral

You might not have given up hope, but the people from the generations I speak of don't accord with your ideas on development. They only want what's rightfully theirs -free everything. Don't offer them useful work...because it doesn't pay enough. This isn't just confined to Merseyside it's in every county, town and city in the land; Especially London and the Midlands. It's only welfare that's sustaining millions. We live in an entirely different age to the one in which the men and women of Jarrow marched on London for work. Who marches on London today for work? The brutal fact is, governments both Labour and Tory have been complicit in letting this state of affairs come about for years. Perhaps if benefits were scrapped we would all be marching to London for work, but as long as they keep on shelling out free everything to people, there will always be towns with reputations like Tranmere.
It seems to me that the only protesting that's being done is the protest at the governments attempt to reduce the welfare bill. Nobody's protesting for a plethora of entrepreneurs to come into their neighbourhood to create work.

This has become a very interesting thread with very interesting views
We must not start thinking that we are at the bottom of a heap
I have never looked at the wirral with some sort of pride until I joined this forum, which is not very long (thank you wiki)
When we all realise the problems that the wirral/tranmere/birkenhead/wallasey/moreton/woodchurch, (we could just keep adding your own locale) they are happening all over britain.

I'm more interested in the title to be honest.

You either give us a job (which you won't for obvious reasons) or we will carry on stealing.

Love a potential employer to see that title.

They are also available in Tranmere, that also speaks for itself.

I tried all over to get one for my mother four years ago. The only shop where they had them was West Kirby. So things must be looking up for the good people of Tranmere.

[/quote] What labouring work there is ,is taken up by immigrants. Our own people won't do the jobs that immigrants will. [/quote]

Can you give me some examples on Wirral of jobs paying minimum wage 40 hours that immigrants do that Our own people won't do.
I was told the other day of someone on a zero hour contract who had to get up at 4am to get to work at 6am only to be told on arrival 'we don't need you today'(are we going back to the 'good old days' of the lots of dockers turning up hoping to be one of the lucky ones selected for a day/days work)
Granted he also had some good weeks with 12 hours shifts in.

Is he one of the hard working people the gov say they are helping.
I'd hate to live like that - not knowing if I'd be earning a wage from one day to the next
(now awaiting remarks that he should put money aside from good week to cover bad weeks)

The last two are not companies as you see, but they provided employment in capacity, particularly the shipping. Once the Merseyside ports started to decline, as shipping companies found cheaper ports to dock,that was the start of beginning of the end in this area.
We used to have the constant emigrant ships to Australia, Canada, America and other places(of course some might not know about them or have forgotten ). That would have involved so much employment, baggage handling porters, officials, crews, supplies for the vessels, the docks both sides of the Mersey where a bustling environment.
Population is probably now greater than ever and no major player in the 'once' industrial North and far too many factors involved to simply blame it on a couple.
It's a changing world we live in, there is far more competition out there, and we have to change with it if we wish to survive. Nothing will ever land on our laps unless of course you know someone who is into nepotism, that always helps !
I believe attitude of mind needs to change, and when people need work they must be prepared to move areas. We have all done it and it pays off if it breaks the cycle. The unfortunate angle is that for decades now, if anyone looking for a job elsewhere said they came from Liverpool, there was an automatic blacklist and thanks to some, it would appear that the same irretrievable message is being made about certain areas of Wirral too. Well done!

Probably the greatest difficulty in moving area, is finding accommodation. People used to rent rooms out and provide meals, they called it 'lodgings' That in itself was a business and brought money in for families and some people still do in different areas, although now everyone seems to expect either a flat or 5* ensuite hotel with all expenses paid. Where did that expectation come from ?