WikiWirral its great, register, enjoy and welcome.
Forum Stats
12137 Members
65 Forums
72391 Topics
976091 Posts
29 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
81 registered (11kendo, 12 invisible), 1582 Guests and 216 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Wirral Globe 596
HMT Lancastria 439
Another Big Waste Fire in Liverpool. 404
Name help 387
Vet help 296
Vet help 296
54 plate renault clio 3rd brake light 197
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road? 196
That was kept a bit quiet? 149
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone 131
New General Forums
Lib/dems rule the day
by JimmyG
2nd Dec 2016 10:59pm
Daft funny joke
by venice
2nd Dec 2016 5:54pm
We dont learn much.
by venice
1st Dec 2016 9:22pm
Freegle
by venice
1st Dec 2016 6:36pm
New Wirral History
Name help
by Paternoster21
3rd Dec 2016 8:03am
HMT Lancastria
by granny
2nd Dec 2016 11:38pm
Cubitts Holland and Hannen
by fish5133
27th Nov 2016 5:38pm
Fire station
by chris7777
22nd Nov 2016 12:24pm
Buy a house in Greasby for 12s a week - in 1935
by yoller
6th Oct 2016 6:56pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
RIP Peter Vaughan
by Mark
12 minutes 31 seconds ago
Talk Talk Security Breach
by Mark
13 minutes 30 seconds ago
Blank Page : Offline
by Mark
17 minutes 26 seconds ago
Iphone 5s, Grey, near mint condition, £50
by anniebo28
33 minutes 52 seconds ago
Vet help
by fish5133
Today at 08:01 PM
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
Today at 07:30 PM
That was kept a bit quiet?
by diggingdeeper
Today at 06:19 PM
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road?
by fish5133
Today at 02:13 PM
MIG welder
by vw_kyle
Today at 01:49 PM
December
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#849885 - 13th Jan 2014 11:37am Fracking on Wirral
granny Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Jun 2011
Posts: 13483
Loc: Wirral
What's happening with 'fracking' on Wirral' , do we know?

Cllr Davies was opposed to this, despite the fact that IGas now have a license to explore. Where will the 'Well' be ? Will Wirral Council have huge rewards for being part of it, from the Tory Government. Oh dear me !


http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/busi...entives-5397634



Council leader Cllr Phil Davies spoke of his concerns over the controversial process following an announcement by IGas earlier this month. (being Extract taken from: June 2013)

"The firm revealed it may have up to 172.3 trillion cubic feet of gas in the 300-square mile area in Cheshire it holds licences over. It follows a study of geological data from the firm’s well site in Ince Marshes, near Ellesmere Port. IGas holds licences that run across most of West Wirral as well as stretches of Cheshire and Runcorn. The company intends to begin hydraulic fracturing in the North West to extract the gas – by drilling into the ground and fracturing the shale by pumping in high-pressure liquid – by the end of the year, but has yet to reveal where.

Before that can take place though, planning permission needs to be secured from local authorities. In July 2011, Wirral council passed a resolution registering its opposition to fracking, a stance Cllr Davies said hasn’t changed since then.

He said: “Most shale gas in Wirral would be under the West Wirral part of the peninsula. The thought of companies digging up huge tracts of our green areas fills me with dread. I would be completely opposed to that.”

Maps: http://frack-off.org.uk/local-group/cheshire-and-wirral-action-on-fracking/

......and why are we not being updated? Not everybody has a computer to access information. Would like to know where they are likely to drill. One wonders what the site at Thingwall Corner really is? Did we ever truly find out about that?
_________________________
...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.FN

Top
Local News : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

WikiWirral Numbers : Between 150 and 200 New Members Every Month. With Over 3,500 unique visits and 35,000 Page Views each day. Average +500 Search Engines Daily and over 1,000,000 Million Page views a Month. Advertising from £20 . Click Me
#849887 - 13th Jan 2014 12:05pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
casper Online   content
Forum Addict

Registered: 13th May 2012
Posts: 1196
Loc: wallasey
The French wont allow it in their backyard granny, so two French companies are applying for licenses here, not on Wirral I hasten to add, our country is being sold from underneath us, I see in the latest bout of privatisation the Royal Mail are putting their prices up already, now there is a surprise, I wonder what happens when we've nothing left to sell?

Top
#849888 - 13th Jan 2014 12:13pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
granny Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Jun 2011
Posts: 13483
Loc: Wirral
News today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25705550

Just another reason for house insurance premiums to increase. Possibly know as 'FFF Premium Insurance'. F...ing floods and fracking! Not likely to be increasing Cameron's FFF costs.


Edited by granny (13th Jan 2014 12:19pm)
_________________________
...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.FN

Top
#849893 - 13th Jan 2014 12:35pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: casper]
granny Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Jun 2011
Posts: 13483
Loc: Wirral
Originally Posted By: casper
The French wont allow it in their backyard granny, so two French companies are applying for licenses here, not on Wirral I hasten to add, our country is being sold from underneath us, I see in the latest bout of privatisation the Royal Mail are putting their prices up already, now there is a surprise, I wonder what happens when we've nothing left to sell?


The majority Share Holder will own us Casper!

The French as we know, hold the major industry for energy. Nuclear etc. Happy to spread their muck on everyone elses territory, worldwide.
_________________________
...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.FN

Top
#849902 - 13th Jan 2014 1:27pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
derekdwc Online   content


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4945
Loc: Birkenhead
Our water bills may go up ( fracking uses huge amounts of water that must be transported to the fracking site, at significant environmental cost) but I suspect our gas or electricity bills won't go down (I hate to see the words should, could and may used by politicians and huge industries - it usually means won't and we are covering ourselves)



The industry suggests fracking of shale gas could contribute significantly to the UK's future energy needs. A report by the Energy and Climate Change Committee in April said shale gas in the UK may help to secure energy supplies, but may not bring down gas prices.




Will we eventually start getting huge sinkholes similar to ones caused by mining.

When all is said and done it's all about profit to be made by someone


Edited by derekdwc (13th Jan 2014 1:29pm)

Top
#849910 - 13th Jan 2014 2:42pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
Gibbo Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 27th Dec 2010
Posts: 1702
Loc: Oxton
You might find it interesting to know that in some Lancashire sites, fracking has been going on since 1993:

http://www.cuadrillaresources.com/our-sites/elswick/

No earthquakes, no exploding water from taps, no death and destruction. Don't you love our one sided media!

Quote:
“Most shale gas in Wirral would be under the West Wirral part of the peninsula. The thought of companies digging up huge tracts of our green areas fills me with dread. I would be completely opposed to that.”


I wonder if he's actually been to a fracking site to see how it looks? Its only an hour or so away.

The one in my link is also a sandstone frack site and this bit says it best "with many people in the area unaware of its existence.".

I bet if the protesters with their half truths and unwillingness to look at the project objectively would soon be on that site if they knew about it!

Incidentally, where are the protesters for these recent earthquakes and sink holes caused by mining and not fracking?

New Ollerton hit by 20 small earthquakes in four weeks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-25679241

Peak District sinkhole appears in Foolow, Derbyshire

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-25559718

Top
#849913 - 13th Jan 2014 2:51pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
davew3 Offline
Forum Guide

Registered: 16th Jun 2009
Posts: 1024
Loc: Wirral
About time they started fracking, the country needs a wake up call even if it's just earthquakes, from memory aren't the power companies owned by the French left wing government, don't know why our water bills will go up as this area still gets it's water from Wales and they still use settling tanks even if the water is pumped from local wells, believe the BBC and see pigs fly..

Top
#849945 - 13th Jan 2014 5:34pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: davew3]
granny Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Jun 2011
Posts: 13483
Loc: Wirral
Originally Posted By: davew3
About time they started fracking, the country needs a wake up call even if it's just earthquakes, from memory aren't the power companies owned by the French left wing government, don't know why our water bills will go up as this area still gets it's water from Wales and they still use settling tanks even if the water is pumped from local wells, believe the BBC and see pigs fly..


Maybe they will go up even more. Once one company falls to foreign ownership, the roller coaster has begun.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/...consortium.html
Plus, I don't believe any British Government has the power to stop these giants, they are far too powerful and are the big fat controllers. which we all know. So why the sentiment to them.
Yes, we need energy, yes we need new energy but let us not forget the disasters which have happened and we could reverse the testimonies of the reports on sink holes and earthquakes being due to mining, and say we don't believe it.
Nothing can take away Chernoble, Fukushima, Piper Alpha, Three mile Island, and ironically, France has a pretty long list of
Nuclear power accidents in France listed in link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_accidents_by_country




Taking this into account nothing is safe, and until we know that fracking is safe then we should not be kept in the dark and both sides of the coin should be explained, so that people fully understand. Also companies should have to take their responsibilities for any mis-adventures caused. e.g the Seascale episode of leukaemia in children, being caused by radiation leakage. One of those things that were denied and shoved under the carpet for years and years. Many of you won't remember these incidents as you probably weren't born then.

I hope there isn't any fracking in Neston/Burton area, being based on a coalmine, and houses on top of, could be a disaster waiting to happen.
_________________________
...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.FN

Top
#849977 - 13th Jan 2014 6:58pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
casper Online   content
Forum Addict

Registered: 13th May 2012
Posts: 1196
Loc: wallasey
My sentiments exactly granny, its too late when they have sucked the life out of the place and left their mess to be cleared up by someone else, whilst they slope off back to France, There is no fear of any drilling or disruption being anywhere near the homes of those down sarf that allegedly represent us, all Cameron can see is pound signs, there will be no benefits for the vast majority of people in this country, remember the cheap north sea gas fiasco cheap everlasting energy liar

Top
#849994 - 13th Jan 2014 7:46pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: casper]
Pinzgauer
Unregistered


Originally Posted By: casper
My sentiments exactly granny, its too late when they have sucked the life out of the place and left their mess to be cleared up by someone else, whilst they slope off back to France, There is no fear of any drilling or disruption being anywhere near the homes of those down sarf that allegedly represent us, all Cameron can see is pound signs, there will be no benefits for the vast majority of people in this country, remember the cheap north sea gas fiasco cheap everlasting energy liar


Even before that, when Calder Hall/Windscale/Sellafield (Name change after every "incident") nuclear station came on line..... "Electricity will be so cheap as not to be worth metering". Oh really? I'm either still wet behind the ears, or I came in on the last Banana boat !

Top
#850053 - 13th Jan 2014 9:35pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
jimbob Offline

Forum Addict

Registered: 26th Nov 2008
Posts: 1530
Loc: Birkenhead
how long before you all bring back the man with the red flag walking in front of motor cars.
_________________________
Ships that pass in the night, seldom seen and soon forgoten

Top
#850064 - 13th Jan 2014 9:46pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
CVCVCV Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 4th May 2010
Posts: 1444
Loc: ex Wallasey now Atlanta GA USA
Oh - so if Cllr. Davies is opposed to it, then I suppose that's it then, no further discussion needed.

Top
#850135 - 13th Jan 2014 10:33pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
RUDEBOX Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Aug 2008
Posts: 18996
Loc: Bob Land
Bribery! Pure and simple

Call Me Dave thinks we are as thick and out of touch as he is
_________________________
Mia Mabel


Top
#850158 - 13th Jan 2014 11:15pm Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: granny]
derekdwc Online   content


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4945
Loc: Birkenhead
Is there any guarantee that the gas will be used only in the UK or could it be exported over to Europe by the fracking companies if there is a demand for it there.

Top
#850209 - 14th Jan 2014 10:06am Re: Fracking on Wirral [Re: derekdwc]
granny Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Jun 2011
Posts: 13483
Loc: Wirral
Cost of bills being reduced:

according to a Quadrillo big boy on Channel 4 News last night, the answer to that is 'no'.
I think his words were, there is a very slight possibility, but highly unlikely.

Has anyone said the number years we would benefit from it? There was mention of twenty years, which is no time at all.

Don't know about export yet do we? wink


Edited by granny (14th Jan 2014 10:13am)
_________________________
...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.FN

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >

Moderator:  Mod 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Talk Talk Security Breach
by fish5133
Today at 06:19 PM
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
Yesterday at 07:13 PM
Vet help
by colin86
Yesterday at 06:25 PM
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road?
by Davefabo
Yesterday at 11:08 AM
Game shocking prices!!!
by eddtheduck
5th Dec 2016 4:55pm
For Sale & Free
Iphone 5s, Grey, near mint condition, £50
by anniebo28
Today at 07:40 PM
Roberts Concerto 2 CD Player For Visually Impaired
by Tranquil
Yesterday at 10:05 PM
Gaming chair
by monsterz4
Yesterday at 08:27 PM
MIG welder
by anniebo28
Yesterday at 01:34 AM
IPhone 4s 16gb £35
by anniebo28
4th Dec 2016 12:45pm
Featured Member
Registered: 7th Dec 2003
Posts: 5591
Newest Members
lucyw, BarbaraL, SherryLover, missyb, DavidSharpe
12137 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
s7uajones (50)
New Wirral Info
Gymnastics coaches needed.
by margy
3rd Dec 2016 9:28pm
Wirral Globe
by locomotive
1st Dec 2016 6:25pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
A job. Company not named.
by venice
30th Nov 2016 6:30pm
News : New Topics
RIP Peter Vaughan
by diggingdeeper
Today at 04:22 AM
That was kept a bit quiet?
by venice
Yesterday at 11:25 AM
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road?
by Davefabo
Yesterday at 11:08 AM
Bunchems Xmas present warning
by venice
Yesterday at 09:28 AM
Another Big Waste Fire in Liverpool.
by Wally1
4th Dec 2016 10:24am
New Enthusiast Forums
Talk Talk Security Breach
by fish5133
Today at 06:19 PM
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
Yesterday at 07:13 PM
Vet help
by colin86
Yesterday at 06:25 PM
Game shocking prices!!!
by eddtheduck
5th Dec 2016 4:55pm
54 plate renault clio 3rd brake light
by Mike72
1st Dec 2016 12:52pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Vet help 296
Talk Talk Security Breach 88
RIP Peter Vaughan 75
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Wed 8:14am
Sunset Wed 3:53pm
Local Time Wed 10:13pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .