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Well none of us are experts on the subject, and amongst those that are there is a difference of opinion, I would hate for the headlong rush to "start digging" without all the true facts being known to begin and then find out later about any associated problems, my fear is that the £ signs are spinning around in Camerons eyes and that his government will agree to anything to the detriment of the population and the environment.

The Groundwater Vulnerability of West Cheshire (sheet16)shows the site to be underlain by a major aquifer. Major aquifers are highly permeable formations usually with a known or probable presence of significant fracturing. They may be highly productive and able to support large extractions for public supply and other purposes.
I believe we and the rest of the country will enjoy the benefits of fracking, whether we like it or loath it.I also think we should make informed decisions on how it is achieved and not be rode roughshod by our new masters.The effects will be local the decisions should be local.

Well Dusty.if they find gas under my house then yours will probably next.
I have just heard on the BW news that the Cockran Area off Alburta Canada(frequency 12.100khz )that parts of america have now got big problems in that they are being sued by many people who's cattle are dying, and people are suffering all sorts of problems with there health through leaking gases from the ground, they have just said about 30 minutes ago that there are over (5000 different) types of gas leaking out of the ground ,and people are being evacuated from there homes and being offerd 50,000 Dollars to leave..

So when they start Fr-ckin around Birkenhead, they will not offer you any compo and tell you to leave.

I hope you (don't smoke or drink water).

PS: AND DO YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO BENEFITED FROM NORTH SEA OIL.

DO YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO BENEFITED FROM NORTH SEA OIL
A lot of Birkenhead seamen finished their working lives on the rigs, or associated industries, one literally.This was after having their Merchant Navy jobs taken from under them.This country has been running on empty for a few decades (no industry)on the back of oil and money laundering.I am not a fracking fan, I was being pedantic,perhaps not forceful enough, and more so taken out of context I don,t smoke and only drink beer so I am alright.

But fracking has been happening in the UK since 1945. You'd think any problems would have come to light by now.

The problem is the media is listening to the rabble making the most noise - the protesters. Lets face it, it gets viewers and sells more papers.

This is a great example of protester lies.

Take a look at this picture:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-23547861

The placard says 82% says no.

When this was on Sky News, the woman says 82% of the village of Balcombe were against it. She also referred to the "exploding water" incident in America, which was long ago found to be faked (funny how people remember the lie but not the subsequent truth)

However, do a little research and you find that 850 households received a poll document:

http://balcombeparishcouncil.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/121020-letter-to-wscc.pdf

And here are the results of the poll:

http://balcombeparishcouncil.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/fracking-poll-results.pdf

only 284 polling cards had been returned..

If it's such an important issue to the people of Balcombe you'd have thought more than a third of the people would have responded.

So that's lie one - not 82% of the village, but only 33%.

Out of that 284, only 125 gave reasons why.

Out of those 125 do you know what the top answer was?

"Increase in road traffic through the village".



Now lets move onto Barton Moss - they're protesting against fracking there.

But there is no fracking, just exploratory well digging. So again, lies. The company here, iGas, already has a site in Warrington. But again, that's not well known because its been running safely for years with no incidents or issues. Again, see if you can find it on Google Earth.

I wouldn't mind if it was a beauty spot but its not. I used to live by the moss, its just a desolate wasteland that gets no tourism. Its used mainly for peat extraction.

As for the protesters, locals report littering and human waste dumped in the area by the protesters. They also fired a flare at a police helicopter and during a subsequent search by the police drugs were found.

... add flooding to the equation ! What happens then ?

Nothing. The sites are fine.

Flooding is surface water.

Fracking and mining is done deep underground, with sealed wells.

Check this out
www.bbc.uk/news/uk-england-25902272
Thousands of gallons of water containing 90% more radio active material than drinking water, released into the Manchester Ship Canal
and
High Court rules out high risk flood zone near Manchester Ship Canal
and
4.2b Royal Haskoning (2009)
If water levels increase significantly, the lock gates can be opened to discharge water into the Mersey.

If licence to frack is granted - read this profits come first

The 2013 draft EU-Canada trade treaty includes language outlawing any "breach of legitimate expectations of investors" which may occur if revoking drilling licenses of Canada-registered companies in the territory of the European Union after the treaty comes into force.[15] Under Chapter 11 of the existing North American Free Trade Agreement, private companies can sue governments when new laws reduce expected profits from existing contracts, however in the U.K previous regulations have excluded hydraulic fracturing companies from potential costs from cleanup operations or the cost to the U.K taxpayer if such companies were to be made financially redundant

"Cheers Derek"
Read, Learn and think.
I think I now Know why certain countries have been let loose on the EEC,With what at first look,seemed to have nothing to offer.The EEC will get billions of euros and dole it out like the old means test.

"I'm not for or against"

See above and make your own conclusion

If that's a reference to me then I've nothing to hide. I've made it clear that I'm against protester lies and will continue to highlight them.

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Although hydraulic fracturing in the United Kingdom has been common in the North Sea oil and gas fields since the late 70,s and has been used in about 200 onshore oil and gas fields since the early 80,s.
The technique did not attract public attention until it,s use was proposed for onshore gas wells in 2007 2008.
Although hydraulic fracturing is often synonymously used to refer to shale gas and other unconventional oil and gas sources
it is not always correct to associate it with unconventional gas.
(Wikipedia)
Although shale gas has been extracted since the 40,s It was not a Hydraulic fracturing operation.To find the truth you have to start from a neutral position or you will only see what you want to see.