WikiWirral values you and your opinion.
Forum Stats
12137 Members
65 Forums
72399 Topics
976180 Posts
44 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
81 registered (4436789, 10 invisible), 1567 Guests and 276 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
Vet help 557
Another Big Waste Fire in Liverpool. 516
Talk Talk Security Breach 423
Anyone Read Chinese Writing 348
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road? 280
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone 254
That was kept a bit quiet? 239
RIP Peter Vaughan 184
MIG welder 156
Game shocking prices!!! 153
New General Forums
Lib/dems rule the day
by JimmyG
2nd Dec 2016 10:59pm
Daft funny joke
by venice
2nd Dec 2016 5:54pm
We dont learn much.
by venice
1st Dec 2016 9:22pm
Freegle
by venice
1st Dec 2016 6:36pm
New Wirral History
Cowhouses
by Norton
Today at 03:34 PM
Name help
by Paternoster21
3rd Dec 2016 8:03am
HMT Lancastria
by granny
2nd Dec 2016 11:38pm
Cubitts Holland and Hannen
by fish5133
27th Nov 2016 5:38pm
Fire station
by chris7777
22nd Nov 2016 12:24pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Hadlow train station
Topic Replies
Virgin broadband
by Basisboy
24 minutes 46 seconds ago
Cowhouses
by Norton
59 minutes 29 seconds ago
Mountain bike carrera Vulcan £100 excellent cond
by TheComputerLab
Today at 03:57 PM
Merseyrail
by cools
Today at 03:03 PM
Offline Monday
by Mark
Today at 12:13 PM
Anyone Read Chinese Writing
by Tranquil
Today at 01:44 AM
Talk Talk Security Breach
by eddtheduck
Yesterday at 10:46 PM
HMT Lancastria
by venice
Yesterday at 02:59 PM
Geert Wilders
by fish5133
Yesterday at 02:44 PM
December
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#835166 - 4th Nov 2013 3:09pm Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute
Mark Online   Reading


Wiki Master

Registered: 9th Nov 2003
Posts: 20966
Loc: Wirral
Merseyside firefighters walk out in pensions dispute.

FIREFIGHTERS across Merseyside have staged two further walkouts as part of an ongoing dispute over pay and pensions.

A five-hour strike by members of the Fire Brigades Union on Friday night was followed by a two-hour walkout this morning.

The action was in response to government plans to make firefighters work up to 60.

Source Click Me
_________________________
My Avatar images are all from the Wirral Gallery.Click Me
Wow Wirral History is coming along Great! Wirral History

we get +200 new members a month now smile

Top
Local News : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

* * * Rapid Hydraulics - Hydraulic Hose Repairs * * *
Now Advertise with WikiWirral.
WikiWirral stats 35,000 Page Views a Day +500 Search Engines.. Click Me
#835577 - 7th Nov 2013 5:09pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
stumpyduck Offline
Smartchild

Registered: 2nd May 2010
Posts: 511
Loc: town
privatisation is knocking at the door , the same door that if you have no insurance then you aren't being saved , who will pay for that private fire service then .how much do you reckon it will cost to put a fire out and rescue someone when there is a profit to be made , I hope you ( 19frank40 )are ok with paying for a fat cat fire service that wants to make a profit out of your misery .the government have sold out the fire service /police force /the ambulance and health service .
those things you take for granted now wont be around if no-one stands up to this corrupt government .

Top
#835589 - 7th Nov 2013 5:39pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
davew3 Offline
Forum Guide

Registered: 16th Jun 2009
Posts: 1024
Loc: Wirral
How quickly people forget when Labour attacked the fire services and Prescott wasted around £10billion on those fire control centres that were never used, always wondered why they renamed the fire stations,"Community fire station" all that money wasted on signage that Labour could have used pay for something to do with the Fire Service.

Never heard a whisper from the Firemen when Brown took £10billion a year out of private pensions for 10 years, pensions come out of a current account and not a savings account, a prudent Chancellor would have sorted that bit out, but Brown saved the world so we must happy with that.

Top
#835709 - 8th Nov 2013 9:42am Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
Santos Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 5th Jul 2012
Posts: 329
Loc: Wirral
I would like to see some of you lot handling heavy ladders and fire hoses under pressure at 60 years of age, its a joke expecting them to do that. Very few office jobs so they cant all go there. This country is governed by clowns.

Top
#835711 - 8th Nov 2013 9:52am Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
svenlock68 Offline
Addict

Registered: 27th Nov 2011
Posts: 262
Loc: svenlock68
some facts .....for the miss guided
1/ scumbag champagne socialist prescot and sadiq kahn are now costing the taxpayer 20 k a month times all the regional centres in a mass waste on PFIS on fire controls....we'll be paying for years for these white elephants.
2/a fireman after five years gets under a hundred pound a shift, youd pay more for a plumber or painter
3/ yes they can retire at 55 after 30 years in the job they've paid 300 a month for the "right" to, private sector workers pay just 5/6% of their salary
4/in 2006 scumbag labour asked them to sign for the new rip off pension or the good old one....saying its all sorted, NOW its you pay more, get less and work longer just cause we say.....its got to be fought against NOW otherwise the next scumbags will move the goal posts again to rape the pot AGAIN !!!
5/the average salary of CFO in uk brigades has massively risen/while no pay rise for FFS, up to a ridiculous 150/200k a year !!! do they really need that?? are they worth that?
6/research what ASSET CO did in London LFB with their private company raping of a public service.....do you want more of that?
7/do we really want G4S running the fire service with even lower min staffing on less pay with contracted equipment and trucks and if youre in a flood or RTA a half hr wait for enough staff to cut you out a car or to be able to safely lift a 100 kg ladder to recue you???....
8/ firefighters deaths at jobs have risen 500 % in the last ten years? wonder why?
9/FFS have had their pay frozen for years
10/is a FF on 6 pound an hour gonna risk his neck for you when his CEO boss gets a million a year?
10/in 2015 many FFS will be taking miss selling of pension contracts to court, why not?
their pension statement says "you get X" but now its "you get y"
not acceptable if a bank gives it you...so why the government then?
PENSIONS ARE GETTING RAPED TO PAY THE BANKS BILL,FFS RESCUE PEOPLE NOT BANKS...

Top
#835729 - 8th Nov 2013 10:55am Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: ]
svenlock68 Offline
Addict

Registered: 27th Nov 2011
Posts: 262
Loc: svenlock68
[quote=19FRANK40]I cannot see any privatisation 'knocking at the door'. You seem to have a vivid left wing imagination. [/quot
Sorry mate its all ready been tried and failed, look at asset co getting LFB into the madness situation of bailiffs coming to take fire trucks to pay bills because off shore speculators haven't made enough share profit that month.
I tell you now G4S SERCO Capita parasites would LOVE to run the fire services.
Its actually been tried by this scum gov already but it got stopped by the FBU and highlighted to ministers.
Get on your computer and research brian coleman and how he tried to bum over LFB and yet ended up arrested.. KARMA
People don't understand the jobs been broke down to just 4 bods on a truck and the actual practicalities at an incident for work over load for the officer in charge and the million and one jobs to do driver is simply DANGEROUS !
But in years to come when public die and business burns to the ground thro lack of speedy /quality attendance I HOPE THEY GET SUED
it wont bring loved ones back....
I mean scumbag Cameron had the nerve to shake FFS hands after London riots yet wants to rob their pensions.
In a recent midlands yard fire there was just ONE truck left covering 2 million homes.......I bet hes proud.

Top
#835747 - 8th Nov 2013 12:05pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
Gibbo Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 27th Dec 2010
Posts: 1707
Loc: Oxton
Amazing article here about the fire service in Belfast:

The Stormont watchdog discovered that a brand new £6,000 ride-on lawnmower disappeared from Fire Service premises and has never been located.

Woodchip panels bought by the Service also went missing and the former Chief Fire Officer Peter Craig defied his bossís orders by refusing to return a Land Rover loaned by a major car dealership to the service.

Now the Service has issued a statement to scotch rumours that a luxury sauna had been partly dismantled and removed from a Fire Service property so it could be installed in an officerís house.



http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/l...a-29723570.html

Top
#835798 - 8th Nov 2013 6:47pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: ]
Santos Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 5th Jul 2012
Posts: 329
Loc: Wirral
Originally Posted By: 19FRANK40
Originally Posted By: Santos
I would like to see some of you lot handling heavy ladders and fire hoses under pressure at 60 years of age, its a joke expecting them to do that. Very few office jobs so they cant all go there. This country is governed by clowns.


I said NOT FRONT LINE WORK but office work. read and learn friend.


Its you that should read and learn wassock, I said " Very few office jobs so they cant all go there." and the reference to them working at 60 was aimed at the government.



Edited by Santos (8th Nov 2013 6:48pm)

Top
#835908 - 9th Nov 2013 1:23pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
svenlock68 Offline
Addict

Registered: 27th Nov 2011
Posts: 262
Loc: svenlock68
Dear Frank if its just down to simple sums that balance out perfectly, life aint like that , mps wouldnt get all their pensions after five mins and 65 k a year.
It wasnt a rant its based on ff knowledge of 20 years via friends
Was it ff s who robbed us blind ? Was it ffs who caused the crash ? No
Conservative s have always been for the rich and raping the worker to pay for it
If you ring the police youll get questions about them bothering to investigate your issue. If you get robbed or burgled you get a crime number. If you ring the fire service theyll be there hell for leather !!! A ff costs 29 k a year a copper gets 40 k a year after ten years. Ff has no increase. Fact.

Does a plumber risk his life at his job??? No
These cuts risk public and ff lives. Consider that in your sums.
Youre probably one of those public who think its still pool tables cooks beds early nights.
It aint.
Look at how over paid pensions of fire chiefs are bloated while doing early retirement career breaks to perverse ly recieve more pay and higher pensions on being re hired. Case in point graham stagg gloucs cfo

Top
#835938 - 9th Nov 2013 2:43pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
svenlock68 Offline
Addict

Registered: 27th Nov 2011
Posts: 262
Loc: svenlock68
Funny thing is ff s where asked during the recent vote whether theyd pull out the old pension if needed ( which they can) it would only take 10% or more to actually collapse and cause the gov to have to fund it. They have the power the workers. Not scum cameron.
Fat toad prescott wasted half a billion on pfi fire controls that don't work at all they've been forced to make them work.
That would sort the pension frank? How about that ? Half a billion
Scum gov continue to make mistakes with the cash cow tax payer fund. But now bleet " fire service costs us too much " boll ;cks..... frank bolloc***ks


Edited by svenlock68 (9th Nov 2013 2:45pm)

Top
#836018 - 9th Nov 2013 6:30pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
RUDEBOX Offline

Wiki Master

Registered: 29th Aug 2008
Posts: 18996
Loc: Bob Land
Maybe start a new thread? This is about Merseyside firefighters on strike!
_________________________
Mia Mabel


Top
#836059 - 9th Nov 2013 10:06pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
svenlock68 Offline
Addict

Registered: 27th Nov 2011
Posts: 262
Loc: svenlock68
Im not shouting. Ha
I re enforce my point thats all
Theres alot of myths
Youre on the same old vein of public vs private pensions distraction
Everyone should get better not worse. Why do you think everyone's on strike ??
Half the gdp is the welfare state. True. Majority is pensions not dole
But how long do you allow people in general to get raped of everything theyve earned
The other half of uk gdp is banking. Ring any bells ?
That will always be protected. Look at the american dream video by george carlin. Hes talking the usa but its dead on for uk right now

Top
#836065 - 9th Nov 2013 10:42pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: svenlock68]
chriskay Offline
Forum Veteran

Registered: 25th Oct 2007
Posts: 4868
Loc: shropshire
Originally Posted By: svenlock68

Everyone should get better not worse.


Nice idea, but everything's got to be earned.
_________________________
Carpe diem.

Top
#836066 - 9th Nov 2013 11:10pm Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: ]
mrhanky Offline
Forum Addict

Registered: 1st Dec 2010
Posts: 1236
Loc: my house
Originally Posted By: 19FRANK40

Do you know how many plumbers and other skilled workers are killed each year on construction sites throughout the world?


as a percentage of the total working in the world i'd imagine a very very small amount.

Top
#836093 - 10th Nov 2013 10:02am Re: Merseyside firefighters walk out in dispute [Re: Mark]
svenlock68 Offline
Addict

Registered: 27th Nov 2011
Posts: 262
Loc: svenlock68
Chris kay
Apply that utopian theory to politicians the tax man big business banking etc etc
Everything has become more polarised and your gov loves to distract you with media and reasons "why " its ok for them to rape you of your assets
The public are so dumbed down now obsessed with buying stuff and following controlled media
Exactly why so many media puppet papers are feeding the myth of dole and foreign workers are the answer to all our ills
Its not. Its the scum gov and banks.
Watch " inside job " good film. Informative

Top
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >

Moderator:  Mod 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Virgin broadband
by corona
Today at 05:20 PM
Cowhouses
by Norton
Today at 03:34 PM
Merseyrail
by ambersmum
Today at 02:52 PM
Offline Monday
by Mark
Today at 12:13 PM
Anyone Read Chinese Writing
by Tranquil
Yesterday at 03:47 PM
For Sale & Free
Mountain bike carrera Vulcan £100 excellent cond
by TheComputerLab
Today at 03:57 PM
Micro desktop PC
by anniebo28
8th Dec 2016 2:24pm
Iphone 5s, Grey, near mint condition, £50
by anniebo28
7th Dec 2016 7:40pm
Roberts Concerto 2 CD Player For Visually Impaired
by Tranquil
6th Dec 2016 10:05pm
Gaming chair
by monsterz4
6th Dec 2016 8:27pm
Featured Member
Registered: 7th Apr 2009
Posts: 261
Newest Members
lucyw, BarbaraL, SherryLover, missyb, DavidSharpe
12137 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
GingerTom (2016)
New Wirral Info
Anyone Read Chinese Writing
by Tranquil
Yesterday at 03:47 PM
Gymnastics coaches needed.
by margy
3rd Dec 2016 9:28pm
Wirral Globe
by locomotive
1st Dec 2016 6:25pm
Wirral TUC Meeting re Update on Wallasey CLP Suspe
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:16pm
World Aids Day Event 2016. Liverpool
by RUDEBOX
30th Nov 2016 9:05pm
News : New Topics
Geert Wilders
by fish5133
Yesterday at 02:44 PM
RIP Peter Vaughan
by diggingdeeper
7th Dec 2016 4:22am
That was kept a bit quiet?
by venice
6th Dec 2016 11:25am
Another tree down on Arrowe park Road?
by Davefabo
6th Dec 2016 11:08am
Bunchems Xmas present warning
by venice
6th Dec 2016 9:28am
New Enthusiast Forums
Virgin broadband
by corona
Today at 05:20 PM
Talk Talk Security Breach
by fish5133
7th Dec 2016 6:19pm
Mobile mechanic needed to fit a wishbone
by anniebo28
6th Dec 2016 7:13pm
Vet help
by colin86
6th Dec 2016 6:25pm
Game shocking prices!!!
by eddtheduck
5th Dec 2016 4:55pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Cowhouses 64
Virgin broadband 20
Merseyrail 16
Offline Monday 16
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Sat 8:18am
Sunset Sat 3:52pm
Local Time Sat 6:37pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me