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#829858 - 6th Oct 2013 1:41pm Finding bench marks query
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Bench marks are points in the real world where the latitude and longitude (and usually the elevation) are recorded to a very, very high accuracy and precision. In the real world, these are marked by small brass discs set in concrete (or bedrock) that include certain information on them. Bench marks are necessary for accurate surveying by providing well-established starting points for measures and triangulation.

bench mark database

types of bench marks

Does anyone know where this one is?
Bidston
FB Rock outcrop NW face of living rock, SE side of Hoylake Road
328560 390270
Grid ref SJ28569027


Are the bm on this map bench marks?



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#829871 - 6th Oct 2013 3:39pm Re: Finding bench marks query [Re: derekdwc]
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Junction of Boundary Road and Bidston Village Road, according to the coordinates.


Edited by yoller (6th Oct 2013 3:43pm)

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#829872 - 6th Oct 2013 3:46pm Re: Finding bench marks query [Re: derekdwc]
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The "BM" followed by the height above datum ie. "BM 27.6" are indeed bench marks Derek. Can't check the grid.ref as I don't have a decent scale map OS map of the area, but.... "living rock" ? Could it be on the sandstone rock face near a certain set of tunnels/air raid shelters on Hoylake Road? From memory, that's the only exposed "living rock" around that neck of the woods.

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#829922 - 6th Oct 2013 8:34pm Re: Finding bench marks query [Re: derekdwc]
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Those co-ordinates in Google Streetview take you here:

SJ28569027

Which is Bidston Village Road near the junction of Boundary Road.
If you look along the wall to the right you can see what looks like the benchmark just above the rock where the sandstone wall starts.

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#829941 - 6th Oct 2013 9:43pm Re: Finding bench marks query [Re: derekdwc]
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Fascinating, I never knew these existed,
here's one on Hilbre Island,

clicky

and another in Liverpool

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#830255 - 8th Oct 2013 7:42pm Re: Finding bench marks query [Re: nuddy]
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The Bidston Bench Mark.


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#830809 - 11th Oct 2013 11:49am Re: Finding bench marks query [Re: derekdwc]
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Wherever it had B.M on a map would there have been a real life marker (a plate, rivet etc)?
I find it more interesting now looking at maps and seeing the heights (above sealevel?)
I tend to think of most roads as on the same level unless I see a visible slope
eg
Main park entrance to the church at top of Oxton Road


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