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#818846 - 23rd Aug 2013 8:49pm csa
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just got a letter off csa informing me i have to pay 340.00 pound a month for my two kids,argued that i couldnt afford that much so they droped it to 240.00 a month,i have never not provided for my kids since i have been back in work i have bought them anything they needed i have them at weekends and any time i can.so please tell me why my ex wife who has got her own business fiddles the books earns in a fortnight what i can only hope to earn in a month can get away with it,and yet can get full rent paid,full council tax paid,working tax credit and child tax credit.yet they dont take into acount my council tax my rent and other living costs.this system stinks and needs a rethink.

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#818868 - 23rd Aug 2013 9:36pm Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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You don't get your rent and ctax paid for if you get child and working tax credit so something isnt right for a start.

If you have an agreement outside of the CSA then they don't need to be involved surely?

120 a month per kid isn't much though, it costs a lot more than that to have kids, wish mine only cost me that.

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#818881 - 23rd Aug 2013 10:05pm Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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tried to have an ageement without csa but she wouldnt have it,so it doesnt come in to it what i have to live on a month is that what your impling.

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#818883 - 23rd Aug 2013 10:11pm Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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tried to have an ageement without csa but she wouldnt have it,so it doesnt come in to it what i have to live on a month is that what your impling.

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#818899 - 23rd Aug 2013 11:14pm Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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£240 a month for your own children . i guesse you would like the taxpayer to pay for your kids .

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#818906 - 23rd Aug 2013 11:48pm Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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Seems as if the tax payer is paying anyway with all the 'tax credits'.
I can understand where you are coming from eddie, although I don't know your situation. If you are on your own and have the children every weekend, plus other times, then I would have thought you can claim for some of the child benefits your partner receives for the children.
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Don't know if it's possible, as all things change, all the time. Worth a try?

Eddie is surely only expected to pay for half the costs per month, so two children is £240 x 2. Their mother receives benefits towards her share of the costs


Edited by granny (24th Aug 2013 12:01am)
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#818908 - 24th Aug 2013 12:13am Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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granny how come you can always understand where people are coming from . granny can sit on the fence when suits

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#818911 - 24th Aug 2013 1:11am Re: csa [Re: shar215]
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Originally Posted By: shar215
granny how come you can always understand where people are coming from . granny can sit on the fence when suits

Probably because I brought my own family up on my own, before all these tax credits. My family are now facing the similar problems.
When you have had an extremely full life like mine and engaged with people from all walks of life, rich and poor,black or white, gay or straight, young and old,at home and abroad, and listened to their problems, maybe you will then understand the word 'empathy'.
So far you haven't shown any
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#818932 - 24th Aug 2013 8:52am Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
Pinkyroo Offline
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Registered: 6th Nov 2012
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Csa take 10% of your wages for each child so in your case 20% surely that's not too much to pay for your kids. Wish mine cost me 10% each I'd be loaded!!!

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#818941 - 24th Aug 2013 9:30am Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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The parent with cares I.e your ex, has no input into your maintenance calculation. She could earn a million pounds a day and you would still have the bill via CSa and because its the law there is pretty much nothing you can do about it.

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#818946 - 24th Aug 2013 9:55am Re: csa [Re: shar215]
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Originally Posted By: shar215
granny how come you can always understand where people are coming from . granny can sit on the fence when suits


I believe Granny's viewpoint on this and other subjects on this forum is called maturity,i.e the ability (or even the desire) to see both sides of a discussion.Sadly for many people this is seen as a weakness when in fact it is very much a strength.

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#818950 - 24th Aug 2013 10:30am Re: csa [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
If you are on your own and have the children every weekend, plus other times, then I would have thought you can claim for some of the child benefits


Most weekends I used to collect my daughter from school on a Friday, she would stay with me all weekend and I would drop her back there on a Monday morning. This meant that although she actually spent more time with me than her mother, she spent 4 nights at her house and only 3 at mine, therefore ALL the child benefits went to her mother.

The system is crazy enough as it is, can you imagine trying to split the credits depending on who has the children for which nights, missed nights when one is ill or extra nights during holidays.

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#818955 - 24th Aug 2013 11:18am Re: csa [Re: eddie64]
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The CSA charge 15% for 1 child, 20% for 2 and 25% for 3 or more. You can apply for shared care if you have your children over 52 nights per year and you would get a reduction in your maintenance calculation.

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#818961 - 24th Aug 2013 11:50am Re: csa [Re: Heswall1958]
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If you are now in a new relationship and have a new family to support the CSA should take them into account as well. Regardless of morality, I don't think they can impose too high a demand in respect of your ex if doing so causes hardship to any other children you currently support. You'll still have to pay maintenance of course but probably not as much.

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#818975 - 24th Aug 2013 1:18pm Re: csa [Re: YinYang]
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Registered: 14th Jan 2012
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If you have children in your household, then you can claim an allowance for them which is taken off your net income.
1 - 15%, 2 - 20%, 3 or more 25%.
If you haven't had any contact with the CSA, you need to call them & give all your details re any overnight stays, children in your household, private pension & get the amount you pay reduced.

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